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Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5

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Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#1 » by Embiid P » Sat Aug 26, 2023 2:12 am

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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#2 » by 76ciology » Sat Aug 26, 2023 4:18 am

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Post#3 » by 76ciology » Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:08 am

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I think House plays SF, then Reed-Bamba at the 4&5 with the 2nd unit.

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Celts trading for KP gives them a higher ceiling but a lower floor with KP’s injury. And Smart brings a lot of intangibles like setting those illegal screens, I find it similar to say the Warriors trading Draymond for Porzingis. Talent wise they might get a better return but it doesnt mean they get better as a whole.

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I think Heat will be much better. Josh Richardson and Jaime are great fit for their team. Spo knows how to unlock Josh Richardson, he played Jimmy’s role before Jimmy played for the heat.

Heat got Lowry, Caleb Martin, Jacquez, Love and Bryant with their 2nd unit.

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Bucks looks good as usual. Strong starting 5, with Crowder-Beasley-Portis off the bench.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#4 » by 76ciology » Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:19 am

If Harden is absent next season, some scorers in FA that we can add:

1.) Joshua Primo. I just dont know whats the deal with his off the court stuff

2.) Terrence Ross. He probably can play that JJ-Seth role
3.) Kelly Oubre. I dont know why he’s still a FA
4.) TJ Warren. Good player if healthy.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#5 » by 76ciology » Sat Aug 26, 2023 8:25 am

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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#8 » by 76ciology » Sat Aug 26, 2023 7:18 pm

We need this every year in the playoffs

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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#9 » by Kobblehead » Sat Aug 26, 2023 8:35 pm

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I think House plays SF, then Reed-Bamba at the 4&5 with the 2nd unit.

Not going to lie, this really makes me want to purge Harden for a depth package even further. Our 2nd unit is looking pitiful. We desperately need Springer to take a jump and be a Bruce Brown type for us.
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Post#10 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Sat Aug 26, 2023 8:53 pm

Looking at our second unit is definitely cause for alarm. You scratch Harden from that list and it gets even scarier. We need a scorer coming off that bench. Will Barton is still out there and would probably fill that role for at least a season for us. He's trending towards vet min/camp invite at this point. Not sure why we wouldn't move on him. I mean, we signed Beverley instead. Unless the belief is that Springer is going to step in a take over? I don't know, but that bench is mid all day. On a side note, I am glad to see Korkmaz getting a look. He deserves it. What a surprise that would be if he somehow figured it out and got comfortable.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#11 » by d-god » Sun Aug 27, 2023 6:44 am

I know Sixers lost some offensive firepower from 2nd unit BUT compared with the 2nd unit that was trotted out start of last season, this year's iteration looks to have a much better structure.
Last season's 2nd unit had very poor rebounding, porous defense, no rim protection, no transition defense. We had a very small Center that could not offer anything of value (Harrell), a PF (Niang) who couldn't rebound or play close to the basket, a SF (Thybulle) who could not put the ball on the floor, and a PG Milton who played no defense and wasn't a good distributor.
This year, we have good rim protection and rebounding at Centre (Bamba) and has ability to stretch the floor, a PF (Reed) who will rebound and be active around the basket, a SF (House) who will run the floor and play solid defense, a PG (Beverley) who at least has an interest in defense and an understanding of how to play PG, and of course Melton the common denominator.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#12 » by youngcrev » Sun Aug 27, 2023 1:05 pm

"2nd unit" feels like a misnomer. It's not like they're gonna be out there together. They've got some guys that can fill roles off the bench. Pretty lacking in terms of scoring/shooting/playmaking, particularly if Harden is sitting on the sidelines. Then again, feels like a waste of time thinking about that now while the Harden situation hangs over their heads.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#13 » by Kobblehead » Sun Aug 27, 2023 5:33 pm

P.J. Tucker, Patrick Beverley, Furkan Kormaz, and Daniel House are bottom of the roster guys that should be playing 10 mpg or less and yet look where they're slotted on our rotation. Our depth in garbage right now and we're not even the right kind of top heavy given that our stars are playoff losers.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#14 » by Iverson Armband » Sun Aug 27, 2023 6:50 pm

This is a very uninspiring roster currently, to say the least.

Only excited to see Maxey’s potential growth and to see if BBall can become a legit 20mpg player. Still won’t win a GD thing.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#15 » by Arsenal » Sun Aug 27, 2023 7:42 pm

Who cares about the 2nd unit? This is a gap year. Just let the young guys eat then we'll reassess next summer.

Bringing in washed vets to "make a run" this year is counterproductive.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#16 » by Iverson Armband » Sun Aug 27, 2023 8:09 pm

Arsenal wrote:Who cares about the 2nd unit? This is a gap year. Just let the young guys eat then we'll reassess next summer.

Bringing in washed vets to "make a run" this year is counterproductive.

A gap year… to what, exactly?
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#17 » by Mik317 » Sun Aug 27, 2023 8:41 pm

you should be able to have your cake and eat it too in regards to playing younger and still being a semi contender.
Feels like the better teams have found a guy in his mid 20's for cheap who turns into a solid playoff performer every year.

we have been getting guys who are old and are what they are for a while now...and every year it ends up that they aren't playable in certain situations or not at all.

Miami has devil magic at play but the idea is there. Get guys who can shoot, can dribble, and can defend at solid levels and see if playing off guys with gravity opens up something. Denver got Bruce Brown for cheap and play no one who is as 1 dimensional as our role players have been. None of which were guys considered to be world beaters prior either.

Our biggest downfall besides Biid and Harden playing like me in the clutch (which was number 1 for sure btw) was that we were very predictable and really had no other options when Biid's tough contested 2s weren't going in or our guys were spamming 3s. Once teams realized that harden wasn't a threat to drive and the stepback middy wasn't falling...the PNR spam was cut off...which was even easier as teams realized that PJ and Tobias only shot in specific set ups as well. Hardens gone but I want to see some Tobias PNRs with him as the ballhandler or the roll man, some Maxey DHOs, some plays with Biid catching and shooting instead of letting the defense get set, less isos in general, getting into sets quicker in general...and that requires guys who are more versitile in general....

too bad Morey is not thinking that way...he is looking for another star for another stagnant offense that dies in the playoffs set up IMO
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#18 » by Arsenal » Sun Aug 27, 2023 8:47 pm

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Arsenal wrote:Who cares about the 2nd unit? This is a gap year. Just let the young guys eat then we'll reassess next summer.

Bringing in washed vets to "make a run" this year is counterproductive.

A gap year… to what, exactly?


To summer 2024. The entire organization knows we're not winning the title next year. So the smart thing to do is give our young talent as much playing time as possible next season.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#19 » by Iverson Armband » Mon Aug 28, 2023 12:23 am

Arsenal wrote:
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Arsenal wrote:Who cares about the 2nd unit? This is a gap year. Just let the young guys eat then we'll reassess next summer.

Bringing in washed vets to "make a run" this year is counterproductive.

A gap year… to what, exactly?


To summer 2024. The entire organization knows we're not winning the title next year. So the smart thing to do is give our young talent as much playing time as possible next season.

Are you sure? I don’t think our best player thinks that at all.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#20 » by Arsenal » Mon Aug 28, 2023 12:30 am

Iverson Armband wrote:
Arsenal wrote:
Iverson Armband wrote:A gap year… to what, exactly?


To summer 2024. The entire organization knows we're not winning the title next year. So the smart thing to do is give our young talent as much playing time as possible next season.

Are you sure? I don’t think our best player thinks that at all.


Of course he knows that. All reports are he's in sync with the plan.

Have you seen credible evidence of him complaining about it?

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