Cam Payne Appreciation Thread

Embiid P · Post #1 » by **Embiid P** » Tue Jul 16, 2024 12:52 am

Signed a one year deal with the Knicks (ugh). Will probably be one of those guys who comes back to be a thorn in our side this season. Oh well...good luck in your future endeavors.

LeonJordanJr24 · Post #2 » by **LeonJordanJr24** » Tue Jul 16, 2024 1:08 am

Pain was good here .

GoSixersBro · Post #3 » by **GoSixersBro** » Tue Jul 16, 2024 5:47 pm

Can already see him yapping and mugging now after hitting 4 threes off the bench against us.

LloydFree · Post #4 » by **LloydFree** » Wed Jul 17, 2024 1:55 am

Should've re-signed Payne over Lowry.

Post #5 » by **Ben** » Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:01 am

LloydFree wrote:Should've re-signed Payne over Lowry.

Lowry the better defender and spot up shooter, Payne the better bench volume scorer. For this team, with at least one of Oubre, Gordon, or Caleb Martin on the second unit and possibly Ricky Council too, I'd prioritize defense (as I think they did).
What's your rationale for Payne?

LloydFree · Post #6 » by **LloydFree** » Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:04 am

Ben wrote:
LloydFree wrote:Should've re-signed Payne over Lowry.

Lowry the better defender and spot up shooter, Payne the better bench volume scorer. For this team, with at least one of Oubre, Gordon, or Caleb Martin on the second unit and possibly Ricky Council too, I'd prioritize defense (as I think they did).
What's your rationale for Payne?

Lowry was a good defender. He isn't stopping anybody anymore. He's near useless if his 3 isn't falling. He's has no impact unless it's situational, and it's likely he won't be on the floor in the most important situations, because Maxey will be the PG in those situations.

76ciology · Post #7 » by **76ciology** » Wed Jul 17, 2024 5:12 am

LloydFree wrote:
Ben wrote:
LloydFree wrote:Should've re-signed Payne over Lowry.

Lowry the better defender and spot up shooter, Payne the better bench volume scorer. For this team, with at least one of Oubre, Gordon, or Caleb Martin on the second unit and possibly Ricky Council too, I'd prioritize defense (as I think they did).
What's your rationale for Payne?

Lowry was a good defender. He isn't stopping anybody anymore. He's near useless if his 3 isn't falling. He's has no impact unless it's situational, and it's likely he won't be on the floor in the most important situations, because Maxey will be the PG in those situations.

Looking at the numbers, there's minimal difference in TS% between the two, but Lowry is a far more impactful defender and contributes significantly in other areas like rebounding and assists. Therefore, between Payne and Lowry, Payne is almost useless when his three-point shot isn't falling.

Additionally, you can pair Lowry with Maxey, whereas you’ll have defensive issues with Payne with Maxey.

I also believe Lowry's IQ and experience are highly valued on this team, which lacks a true point guard and primarily consists of wings.