Time To Give Mo The Axe

THFM · Post #1 » by **THFM** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:40 am

After watching every game this season I think 70% of the Sixers failures fall to Mo. Sure Iggy and the other young players are making mistakes, but Mo has failed as a coach. I really like him, and think he's a nice guy, but his coaching sucks. Our set plays are HORRIBLE and this team has no make up. We don't have a personailty. Honestly just get rid of Mo now and get a new coach in here to ride the younger players so they won't act ignorant (iggy).

Dedicated_76ers_fan · Post #2 » by **Dedicated_76ers_fan** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:48 am

THANK YOU. Me and Ricky have long preached that Maurice Cheeks is the worst in-game coach I have ever seen. I could go over countless number of errors he's made on a consistant basis.

sec-106 · Post #3 » by **sec-106** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:58 am

Chris Ford?

Post #4 » by **dbodner** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:01 am

After watching every game this season I think 70% of the Sixers failures fall to Mo

You're kidding, right? We have the worst starting 2 guard and PF in the league. Seriously. Find one at any position that's worse than what we trot out there.

THFM · Post #5 » by **THFM** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:05 am

dbodner wrote:
After watching every game this season I think 70% of the Sixers failures fall to Mo

You're kidding, right? We have the worst starting 2 guard and PF in the league. Seriously. Find one at any position that's worse than what we trot out there.

I understand, but you have to agree Mo isn't helping either. The set plays suck. Why not have a pick and pop play with Iggy? His mid range jump shot has improved a lot. Or better yet a pick and role with Daly? I mean SOMETHING. Every play we just set a screen till somebody gets open or pass back out and wait for andre to bullet pass it under the hoop.

sixers_610 · Post #6 » by **sixers_610** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:11 am

People seem to forget this is a rebuilding team. Not sure why you can give the guy an axe. 14-23 is better than I thought we would be. Look at our starting lineup, its a joke.

THFM · Post #7 » by **THFM** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:14 am

sixers_610 wrote:People seem to forget this is a rebuilding team. Not sure why you can give the guy an axe. 14-23 is better than I thought we would be. Look at our starting lineup, its a joke.

I know it's a rebuilding team and I know we will one of the worst teams in the league. But Mo couldnt' even get in the playoffs with Iggy, Iverson, and a old Webber. He hasn't really show anything and if you say last years run that was fool's gold as everybody was tanking and other teams didnt' use there best players.

Dedicated_76ers_fan · Post #8 » by **Dedicated_76ers_fan** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:24 am

Andre Miller

Cru Thik · Post #9 » by **Cru Thik** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:28 am

Mo isn't a very good coach but we don't have enough talent to be competitive night in and night out in the NBA. But I think the players could be put in better situations in the court half court sets out of timeouts and so on. We need someone who can utilize the talents we do have to there max and I don't think that is happening now.

UptownPhilly · Post #10 » by **UptownPhilly** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 6:13 am

THFM wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I understand, but you have to agree Mo isn't helping either. The set plays suck. Why not have a pick and pop play with Iggy? His mid range jump shot has improved a lot. Or better yet a pick and role with Daly? I mean SOMETHING. Every play we just set a screen till somebody gets open or pass back out and wait for andre to bullet pass it under the hoop.

You can't be serious? Have you seen Dalembert try to set a pick? He's Awful at it. He moves screens everytime.

Fire BK · Post #11 » by **Fire BK** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 6:18 am

Mo Cheeks is a great guy who's best suited as an assistant coach to mentor guards. He is overmatched as a head coach in the NBA. The staunch supporters of Mo on this board must put their emotions aside at some point and agree that Mo's X's and O's are below average.

The offense is vanilla. Yes, the players are lacking talent. But Mo's strengths are motivating and relating to players. Not X's and O's. Look at the way Phil Jackson has utilized Andrew Bynum, for example. The Lakers constantly swing the ball around and set up alley-oops to Bynum by sealing off the defense. These are simple, effective plays drawn up by the coach. The Sixers could easily be utilizing Dalembert in a similar way, but Mo is not creative enough. Set plays are not his forte. Clearly, we can agree on that.

Furthermore, Mo is a terrible talent evaluator. This is evidenced by his rotation, or lack thereof. Everyone and their grandma can see that it's time to switch the starting lineup, yet Mo insists on starting Green and Evans. It's getting painful, lads. Dear god, any coach with stones would swap out those guys by now for the likes of Thad, Lou, or Jason Smith. Change the mojo. Mix it up. Create some new chemistry. He has nothing to lose. But Mo lacks this kind of creativity too. Legendary point guard. Great person. I once took a clinic with him, and he's a really nice guy. But he has 2-dimensional vision as a basketball coach.

Now. These young players would benefit most under a good X's and O's coach like Chris Ford. The energy is getting painfully stale, and it's time for a change somewhere in the organization. Because Ed might be forced to wait until the deadline for his next trade(s), that leaves two options for a organizational change. Either axe the coach or make a real change to the starting lineup. Because the latter would be merely cosmetic, I would support a coaching move now.

But Stefanski was brought here by Snider not only for his basketball mind, but his financial savvy. Stefanski is working just as hard to straighten out the monies at Comcast as he is the basketball product. Snider would not support paying an extra salary unless it was absolutely necessary. Clearly, a new coach is not steering this ship to the playoffs. So the Eds will undoubtedly let Cheeks ride this painful year out til its bitter end.

Also, Stefanski has major capital in the Philly hoops community right now, and firing Cheeks would ruffle some feathers. Mo has a lot of friends in the Philly hoops family. Stefanski is being careful and patient, and he is smart enough to make all the right moves. Politically, firing Cheeks is not the right move right now.

So in terms of purely (1) basketball, yes. Firing Cheeks would be best for the Sixers. But because of (2) finances and (3) politics, it won't happen unless something really, really drastic transpires. Therefore, Mo ain't going anywhere.

Post #12 » by **The Guilty Party** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 6:32 am

I think Mo will go but not before this season is out. Also, does anyone else find it interesting that Larry Brown is still on the payroll for this team?

I'm still of the belief that he will be taking over here.

Fire BK · Post #13 » by **Fire BK** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 6:49 am

The Guilty Party wrote:I think Mo will go but not before this season is out. Also, does anyone else find it interesting that Larry Brown is still on the payroll for this team?

I'm still of the belief that he will be taking over here.

That's me, raising my hand. Extremely interesting dymanic.

Billy brought back LB for two reasons. One, to be a consultant. And two, as a possible future coach... Then Stefanski takes over the reigns and is presented with the choice of whether or not to keep him... and does. However, Eddie has no use for LB as a consultant. Unlike BK, Stefanksi can make good, solid basketball decisions on his own. Moreover, LB's personnel decisions have been historically disastrous. So he's no longer a consultant to the GM here.

This leaves one possible role for him. Yes, you said it. Future coach. It's not a done deal by any stretch. But the possibility was too intriguing for Eddie to reject. How often do you inherit a basketball team with a HOF coach waiting in the wings? No need to clip those wings. Eddie's keeping all of his options open to him.

P2K · Post #14 » by **P2K** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 8:36 am

Unless you can list a guy or two that should be brought in to replace Mo, what good would it do with a lineup like we have?

Dedicated_76ers_fan · Post #15 » by **Dedicated_76ers_fan** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 9:05 am

Enough with the lineup excuses, his teams have been traditionally mediocre or horrible.

His Blazer playoff teams only knew how to do one thing and that was blow leads to the Lakers. Then they took a few trips to the lottery.

Has mo even MADE the playoffs in his 3 years in Philadelphia?

P2K · Post #16 » by **P2K** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 7:37 pm

Dedicated_76ers_fan wrote:Enough with the lineup excuses, his teams have been traditionally mediocre or horrible.

His Blazer playoff teams only knew how to do one thing and that was blow leads to the Lakers. Then they took a few trips to the lottery.

Has mo even MADE the playoffs in his 3 years in Philadelphia?

Who you want then?

sixers_610 · Post #17 » by **sixers_610** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 9:49 pm

Did the Blazers even play the Lakers in the playoffs under Mo or is Dedicated wrong as usual?

Dedicated_76ers_fan · Post #18 » by **Dedicated_76ers_fan** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 10:13 pm

I believe they did. His first 2 years as a Blazers coach, they've made, and then exited out of the first round. The last 3 years he took them to trips to the lottery. And in these 3 years, oh look. 0 playoff apperances, 3 lottery apperances.

Post #19 » by **tk76** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:10 am

I would not fire Mo for anything he has done wrong- because he generally gets his young players tio play hard and somewhat disciplined ball- which is hard when you are losing. There is no coach that makes this a 500 team right now. Nobody. You don't send out the worst shooting, worst post scoring team and win more than you lose. Firing Mo just because he isn't a great coach would only further confuse the young players on this team, requiring them to learn a whiole new scheme.

Now, If Ed wants to instal a certain system then he might have a better coach than Mo. lets say he wants to go Princeton style, or Suns style, or LB style... then he should replace Mo if there is an available coach who would be better at putting that system in place. It would still be a huge adjustment for the young players, but if it is an inevitable change, since that's how Ed wants them to play, then you might as well change now.

I think Ed is not sure how he wants them to play, because he doesn't know what big name player will become available for him to build the roster around. Until he has added a star, it is too soon to decide on a suystem- so why not leave Mo in place until we know what direction we want to go.

Dedicated_76ers_fan · Post #20 » by **Dedicated_76ers_fan** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 6:42 am

Because I cannot stand another coach who constantly puts his players in a bad position, who constantly puts his team in a bad position, and a coach, no matter what roster is handed to him, that STILL finds a way to lose more games then win.

OR: I think, that, in the 3 years Maurice Cheeks has been here? If we didn't fire Jim O'Brien. We would be carrying the Larry O'Brien trophy in Philadelphia IMO. Yes, I said it, we would've been NBA champions.