I want to see everyone's big picture view of our roster.
Request- please tell us your complete ratings before commenting on other peoples ratings
-Team Goal in one line
-3 acquisitions, then,
-Players ratings (2 ratings, see below:)
1st- Ideal yield from player in next 2 years:
K: keep on roster
T: Trade for another player of similar value but better fit/need
D: Dump for capspace, unproven youth, picks
E: Let contract expire (for capspace)
2nd- Ideal role on a winning roster (player projected in 2-3 years from now)
Star- Top 2-3 player on winning roster
Starter- Role player starter on winner
Key Reserve- 20+ minute reserve
Marginal reserve (spot minutes, limited role player)
No role on a winner
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tk76
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My Team goal: Young, athletic, high scoring, pressing, cap-friendly team with no one player who dominates the offense- Princeton O, trapping D
Acquisitions: 1. Big time scorer with range or post skills
2. Additional PF or C of Sam's build with a hook shot
3. 6'4 good shooting PG (Lou may have to suffice)
My ratings
Miller D or E Starter (but in 2 years will not much time left at that level)
Iguodala K Star (2nd or 3rd of 3 stars on a winner in 2 years)
Lou Will K Starter or Key reserve
Thad K Starter
Smith K Key reserve(borderline marginal)
Evans D Marginal reserve
Sammy K Starter or Key Reserve (but maybe too pricey)
Booth E Marginal Reserve (can't hurt to have as 11th man)
Carney K or T Marginal reserve (?Defense or 3pt's later in career)
Hill K Marginal Reserve
Amundson E No Role
Shav E No Role
Ollie E Marginal reserve (pg insurance at minimum)
Acquisitions: 1. Big time scorer with range or post skills
2. Additional PF or C of Sam's build with a hook shot
3. 6'4 good shooting PG (Lou may have to suffice)
My ratings
Miller D or E Starter (but in 2 years will not much time left at that level)
Iguodala K Star (2nd or 3rd of 3 stars on a winner in 2 years)
Lou Will K Starter or Key reserve
Thad K Starter
Smith K Key reserve(borderline marginal)
Evans D Marginal reserve
Sammy K Starter or Key Reserve (but maybe too pricey)
Booth E Marginal Reserve (can't hurt to have as 11th man)
Carney K or T Marginal reserve (?Defense or 3pt's later in career)
Hill K Marginal Reserve
Amundson E No Role
Shav E No Role
Ollie E Marginal reserve (pg insurance at minimum)
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freshie2
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My Team goal: Athletic, defensively sound, efficient offensive team-
Acquisitions:
1. Big time PF or C
2. Young PG upgrade for the future
3. Additional depth on the front line
4. 2+ 3pt shooters
My ratings
Miller D
Iguodala K Starter
Lou Will K Starter or Key reserve
Thad K Starter
Smith K Key reserve
Evans D
Sammy K Starter
Booth E
Carney K or T
Hill E
Amundson E
Shav E
Ollie E
Acquisitions:
1. Big time PF or C
2. Young PG upgrade for the future
3. Additional depth on the front line
4. 2+ 3pt shooters
My ratings
Miller D
Iguodala K Starter
Lou Will K Starter or Key reserve
Thad K Starter
Smith K Key reserve
Evans D
Sammy K Starter
Booth E
Carney K or T
Hill E
Amundson E
Shav E
Ollie E
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tk76
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So Freshie, you think we have 3-4 of the starters and 1-2 20+ minute reserves.
That means you think we are pretty close to being a winner. Possibly just 1 star starter and 2 reserves and a couple years of seasoning away.
That sounds like like simple acquisitions if we have all the assets/cash from dealing Evans and Miller.
I thinks we are a bit farther away, although our ratings are pretty similar.
That means you think we are pretty close to being a winner. Possibly just 1 star starter and 2 reserves and a couple years of seasoning away.
That sounds like like simple acquisitions if we have all the assets/cash from dealing Evans and Miller.
I thinks we are a bit farther away, although our ratings are pretty similar.
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tk76
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Maybe. Ideally I would love to find a healthy Jermain Oneil type player without the attitude and at 15M instead of 20M.
Also, notice I say winner, and not Champion. In my view, you only get to win a championship if you are blessed with a top 2 NBA big man or MJ (best ever non Big) and then add other star level players. Almost all of the recent Champs have had MJ, Shaq, Duncan, - and all of those teams had other stars too. You can steal one with a solid team like the Pistons- but the odds are against you.
No way to even guess when the Sixers will be in the position to get a championship- maybe not in the next 10 years (which sucks, but is reallity.) Certainly no sure fire way we make a move that puts on that trajectory- unless we manage to acquire Lebron or Oden- and that's not happening.
Also, notice I say winner, and not Champion. In my view, you only get to win a championship if you are blessed with a top 2 NBA big man or MJ (best ever non Big) and then add other star level players. Almost all of the recent Champs have had MJ, Shaq, Duncan, - and all of those teams had other stars too. You can steal one with a solid team like the Pistons- but the odds are against you.
No way to even guess when the Sixers will be in the position to get a championship- maybe not in the next 10 years (which sucks, but is reallity.) Certainly no sure fire way we make a move that puts on that trajectory- unless we manage to acquire Lebron or Oden- and that's not happening.
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freshie2
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tk76 wrote:Maybe. Ideally I would love to find a healthy Jermain Oneil type player without the attitude and at 15M instead of 20M.
Also, notice I say winner, and not Champion. In my view, you only get to win a championship if you are blessed with a top 2 NBA big man or MJ (best ever non Big) and then add other star level players. Almost all of the recent Champs have had MJ, Shaq, Duncan, - and all of those teams had other stars too. You can steal one with a solid team like the Pistons- but the odds are against you.
No way to even guess when the Sixers will be in the position to get a championship- maybe not in the next 10 years (which sucks, but is reallity.) Certainly no sure fire way we make a move that puts on that trajectory- unless we manage to acquire Lebron or Oden- and that's not happening.
Sure, but I don't think anyone will ever see a healthy JON again...his injuries seem to be chronic and lingering. Brand is still a health risk, but his injury was a one time acute orthopedic injury that was surgically repaired (I hope) and his long term prognosis is much better than JON's.
