Do You Have Interest In Marcus Williams?

[The Guilty Party]

Reports are coming out about a potential trade between the Bulls and Nets that would involve Nocioni and Thabo Sefolosha for Bostjan Nachbar, Marcus Williams, Antoine Wright and Jamaal Magloire.

The reported deals rarely ever seem to actually happen and so my question is about one of the names mentioned: Marcus Williams. I'm not going to lie that I wanted this guy on draft night '06 (he should already be on this roster) but seeing that Stefanski was one of the guys responsible for drafting Marcus and seeing that Stefanski has said that he believes Lou Williams is not a natural PG.... do you believe the Sixers should try to get Marcus Williams?

Do you believe Marcus Williams has a future as a starting PG in this league? If so, do you think he would be a good fit with the current talent this team already has?

I think it was a mistake taking Carney above Williams (and Brewer) but that was on Billy King. I wonder what Stefanski's view is of Marcus and whether he liked him along with Thorn or if Rod Thorn took him based on his own feelings.

[UptownPhilly]

He'd be worth taking a chance on. Besides, Lou, would probably flourish as an undersized SG.

[The Sixer Fixer]

I like him some. I was down on him coming into the draft because of all the trouble he got into at UCONN. He's a better pure PG option that anyone else on this roster and he's been learning from Kidd in NJ so you have to think he's pikced up some good qualities from that.

I just wonder, if he's a real good prospect, why would NJ be open to dealing him since Kidd probably doeesn't have that many years left (could also be traded this year or next)? The rumor is about a deal for Nocioni. I'm sure that because NJ wants to add some toughness to their team and Nocioni is a guy who can play some PF when you go small. That fits with NJ since they don't have real good scoring options at PF (at least until Krstic is back).

Now what do we have that would be a good fit in NJ? I don't see any player on our roster (except maybe Dalembert) who would fit on NJ as well as Nocioni would.

[The Sixer Fixer]

One other thing to note. Loking at some of the recent draft picks of the Nets, it seems Ed isn't shy about adding players who have some major character questions.

He drafted Marcus Williams who likely fell in the draft due to concerns over his charater.

Then this year he drafted Sean Williams who obvioulsy was the biggest risk in this years class.

Edit: Helllo Beasley or Mayo? lol

[The Guilty Party]

I don't want to turn this into a fantasy trade thread... but scoring is not NJ's problem as much as interior toughness and rebounding are which sort is Reggie Evans' speciality.

As you said SF, I'm a little shocked to see Williams' name come up because Kidd is coming to the end of his career and Williams seems to be a perfect player to take over. I don't get it but if Williams is available... I think Ed should take a long look at acquiring him.

[The Sixer Fixer]

I don't think Evans is much of an upgrade over Josh Boone. Boone is a decent rebounder and has the height that Evans doesn't to defend better. Sean Williams adds toughness down low too.

[UptownPhilly]

Just about all of our swingmen would be better on the Nets playing next to Kidd.

[The Guilty Party]

I guess I agree with that. I doubt Marcus Williams is untouchable and so if there's a will... I'm sure there's a way even if it means becoming the third man in on the Bulls/Nets deal.

I see that Hinrich is currently starting at SG but he's not going to be there for his career. Where does Williams fit in with Hinrich and Duhon??

[ankle420breaker]

I'd be interested in a deal involving Marcus, but as mentioned previously, the Nets and Sixers are horrible trade partners. Williams would fit into the mix here and pending growth in regards to attitude/work ethic he could evolve into a worthy pass first pg that could succeed Miller.

I don't know how Ed and Rod collectively felt towards Marcus, but he fell to the 22nd pick and at the time was easily considered the best player available. That being said, I don't know if there is any extra desire on Ed's part to target him. On the other hand, if something favorable were to present itself, its hard to shy away from a 22 year old PG prospect that could grow along side Lou. [/i]

[SendEm]

I don't like Marcus Williams from what I've seen of him. He plays much smaller than his height while at the same time being slow for someone of his age and position. Marcus is listed at 6'3" but he has the limitations of someone 5'9". Did he have microfracture sugery or something? LOL.

He's a quality passer but he can not get anywhere on the floor that he wants with his below average athletic ability. His defense also is not good at all. His jumpshot is a joke.

He just may be able to one day average 8+ assists in this league, but his defense, rebounding, and steals will always be a weak link in the chain.

He's not the type of PG that's going to make his team better like the way that true PG's that can pass usually do. Instead, he will be the kind of PG that if his team has GREAT finishers and shooters he'll be able to run the team nicely and put up some great fantasy numbers in the assist column. BUT, in reality the opposing PG's will be torching him night after night. Chris Paul will look like no one is guarding him.

[Fire BK]

Great talent. Not a great fit for the Sixers, though.

If you bring in a new PG here, that means Lou will be playing primarily off-the-ball. Therefore, if Lou is playing 2, then you need a really big, strong, tough 1. The kind of big guard that Phil Jackson has always coveted.... D. Rose would be perfect here...

Also, Marcus Williams will cost you some nice chips. Reggie Evans has virtually no value. Not a huge contract, but it's long. And nobody wants to add that to their payroll, for a guy who is so limited offensively. For this team, Marcus Williams is not worth what NJ will charge.

[The Guilty Party]

I don't see Lou Williams ever being a part of the Sixers' starting lineup so how he fits next to Marcus Williams doesn't bother me. I think Lou will be a scorer coming off of the bench (see: Captain Barbosa in Phoenix).

Either way, I do not see the future PG of this franchise on this roster and unless we take a PG in the upcoming draft, I think we'll have to acquire one in a trade.

[sec-106]

I liked Rondo more than Williams, and both more than Carney.

I'd take Williams if the price was right.

[Fire BK]

I tend to agree with you about Sweet Lou as a better 6th man, or bench guy. Scoring pop off the bench. Like Barbosa, or the Microwave, or Monte Ellis before he broke into the starting lineup. True. He'll probably never be a starting SG in the NBA. Unless you can draft Rose or pry a Shaun Livingston-type PG. But even then, it seems unlikely that Lou will ever be a starter at either guard spot.

Still he's going to play 20+ minutes, and many of these minutes would hypothetically be alongside M. Williams. Even for 5 minutes, this backcourt would be a major, major defensive liability. That's post-up central for the Chauncey Billups and Baron Davis of the world.

That being said, he's a rising talent, and I wouldn't mind adding him to the roster. But not at the current cost. It's going to take a whole lot more than Reggie Evans to get him, and we probably don't even have the right pieces, as already suggested. If I'm going to break the bank for a PG via trade, I go after a bigger, tougher guy in the J.Kidd/Deron Williams/Chauncey mold.

I know these guys are unrealistic, but Lou Williams is still part of this team's future - even if he'll never be a starter. So unless you can get M. Williams really, really cheap, I go after a different kind of PG if it's needed through trade.

Furthermore, a PG is not a great need for the Sixers right now. Andre Miller remains the sheriff in town, and may very will be through next year as well. Even then, the Sixers may be able to re-sign Miller at a discount. Or, by that point Sweet Lou has developed into a viable PG. You never know. But Eddie has a lot of time to evaluate the PG spot. Of all the pieces he wants to add right now, I think PG is very low on the list unless you can draft Rose.

[philbe311]

Yes I have interest in williams, however if there's one team I doubt we trade with it is the NJN... One they're a division foe, and two I'd be hesitant to deal with Stefanski if I was NJ...

Though Carney for Williams would be poetic justice... Kind of like BK was never here...

[Salvistine24]

i go to nova and got to marcus play a bunch and i never understood the facination with him...yes he is a pg which we needed at the time (and some may argue will need after the deadline) but i was never impressed with his play...i always felt that gay and boone were better players on that uconn team and even armstrong contributed nicely...williams was a guy who had a string of decent to above average games vs some poor big east teams but floundered against the novas/pitts/cuses of the league

i think he is a guy we tend to overvalue even now bc we thought he was a nice pick at 16 in 2006 while he really went were he shouldve (22nd) and isnt really a player...hes overrated and id much rather go in another direction before marcus...

never been a fan

[freshie2]

Not a big fan, and I don't think they need to reach for a marginal PG. Rondo has impressed me more so far, but I don't think he's going anywhere.

[tk76]

Furthermore, a PG is not a great need for the Sixers right now. ... But Eddie has a lot of time to evaluate the PG spot. Of all the pieces he wants to add right now, I think PG is very low on the list unless you can draft Rose.

Good point. We have limited assets to trade- so using them to acquire Williams doesn't make sense- unless NJ wants to take some of out garbage, which is unlikely.