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Post#1 » by The Guilty Party » Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:50 pm

We've talked about the options that Stefanski and the Sixers will have this summer so it's time to find out who wants what hence... what I want to know is if the Sixers could....

... would you risk having our cap space locked up for two weeks by going after a RFA (Okafor, Smith, Deng, Gordon)???

... would you sign Gilbert Arenas away from the Wiz???

.... would you keep our draft pick if it ends up somewhere between 8-14 or would you try to trade it??

... would you keep Andre Miller around for another year???

... would you give Andre Iguodala 5 years/$55 MIL??

... would you trade both our cap space and our pick if it meant obtaining someone like Stoudemire or Gasol??
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Post#2 » by tk76 » Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:55 pm

No to everything but signing Iguodala- but hopefully for a bit less.

I would try to Move Miller and/or our late lottery pick as a part of a larger trade to land a big- but who knows if anything will be available.
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Post#3 » by Philly's Best » Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:58 pm

yes for Okafor, maybe Smith. No for Deng or Gordon.

No to Gilbert Arenas though I like him as a player and character.

depends on who is available with regard to the pick. Unexpexted guys drop every year. Can we package it for the PF we need?

Maybe to Andre Miller. It depends on what big free agent we can acquire or trade for, though I still hope he is traded at the deadline.

Yes to Iggy at 5 for 55.

Definitely would trade cap space and our pick for Stoudemire or Gasol though that would not be enough, so it depends on what else we are "throwing in."
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Post#4 » by The Guilty Party » Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:03 pm

Do either of you believe 5 for $55MIL is too much for Iguodala???
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Post#5 » by SendEm » Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:05 pm

Nothing proposed looks like a wise move. We do not have the money for Arenas he will be paid more than Zach Randolph. The Sixers will get better through the draft or trades.
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Post#6 » by Philly's Best » Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:05 pm

The Guilty Party wrote:Do either of you believe 5 for $55MIL is too much for Iguodala???


I will probably get killed for this by many who think that number is too high, but I think that number is about right and also think he will get more than that like it or not.
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Post#7 » by CinciSixersFan » Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:21 pm

1. Since, RFAs tend to take a while to sign, I would actively pursue the open market before going after any RFAs. However, the only ones I would be interested in would be Okafor and Smith. Although Smith's stats are sick, I think he is going to have a hard time going anywhere but Atlanta based on his baggage. If we have a poor draft and are desperate for a 4, I could see us signing Smith to play small ball and utilize him the same way the Suns use Marion.

2. No interest in Arenas, haven't we seen that show before?

3. If we are picking between 8 and 14 I would highly consider moving back and to hopefully acquire a vet who could come in and contribute.

4. I really think we need to look at moving Miller to get cap space to pursue free agents and Iguodala because yes (and the answer to #5) I do believe he should be resigned, I don't have a problem with 5 years for 55 million

6. If we could acquire Stoudamire or Gasol prior to the deadline and could hold on to Miller, I'd be ok with it because I honestly think we could probably make a run at the playoffs and would be pretty solid in the East moving forward. But I do think the better and more likely scenario is to move Miller to get more draft picks and cap room. I really wouldn't be fond of using Miller to acquire either one of those guys which might be the only way to do it.

Although you could go Jason Smith, Carney, Willie Green, Kevin Ollie, Reggie Evans and a #1 for Gasol/Stoudamire with a couple of throw ins. But I don't know that anyone
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Post#8 » by The Guilty Party » Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:22 pm

SendEm wrote:Nothing proposed looks like a wise move. We do not have the money for Arenas he will be paid more than Zach Randolph. The Sixers will get better through the draft or trades.


You're right that we do not have the money right now... but that's not to say that we won't be able to get there should be move Evans for an expiring.

I guess the better question is if the Sixers had the cap space to get him, would you want Arenas on this team??

Also... let's say the Sixers draft a PF (Jordan or Arthur)... what player/position should the Sixers target in free agency besides PF???
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Post#9 » by Sixersftw » Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:27 pm

1. yes to okafor (back on the wagon!) no to smith, deng, gordon

2. little interest in gilbert

3. depends on what possible deals are out there at the trade deadline.

4. got no problem with that.

5 depends on where our pick fell. Basically it's yes unless its beasley/ #1. I think he is going to be a seriously good player in the league. otherwise trade away. even if it was the #1 I would be hard pressed to pass up stat.
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Post#10 » by Sixersftw » Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:29 pm

The Guilty Party wrote:
Also... let's say the Sixers draft a PF (Jordan or Arthur)... what player/position should the Sixers target in free agency besides PF???


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Post#11 » by sec-106 » Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:45 pm

Yes to Okafor+Smith only. (Any thought that if PHI does get Okafor, Sam could then be included in an Amare deal?)

No interest in Arenas.

Trade a non Top 5 pick (unless Mayo slips).

Keeping Miller, to me, depends on what you can get. $10M may be the diffence in slightly improving and taking a really big leap.

Unless AI2 is included in an extemely blockbuster deal, I pay him the $55M.

This team need a stud. Amare, a healthy Brand, Boozer (make that pot sweet, Ed), I do what needs to be done.


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Post#12 » by barkley34 » Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:12 pm

.. would you risk having our cap space locked up for two weeks by going after a RFA (Okafor, Smith, Deng, Gordon)???

Yes, it is not like we have to worry about other teams stealing the best free agents because we will be one of the few teams with cap space.

... would you sign Gilbert Arenas away from the Wiz???
Yes, as long as his knee checks out ok. I'm not sure why so many people have soured on him its not like this guy is a Marbury type. He almost outplayed Lebron in the playoffs a couple years ago. Any time you can add a 25+ ppg scorer you do it. Also it would take a ton of pressure off of Iggy who would no longer have to be forced into the role of being the man.

.... would you keep our draft pick if it ends up somewhere between 8-14 or would you try to trade it??

Keep it.

... would you keep Andre Miller around for another year???

No.

... would you give Andre Iguodala 5 years/$55 MIL??
Yes.

... would you trade both our cap space and our pick if it meant obtaining someone like Stoudemire or Gasol??

Yes. Same thing as with Arenas if you have a chance to add Amare you do it. We need to add proven talent this summer.
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Post#13 » by Cru Thik » Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:34 pm

The Guilty Party wrote:We've talked about the options that Stefanski and the Sixers will have this summer so it's time to find out who wants what hence... what I want to know is if the Sixers could....

... would you risk having our cap space locked up for two weeks by going after a RFA (Okafor, Smith, Deng, Gordon)???

... would you sign Gilbert Arenas away from the Wiz???

.... would you keep our draft pick if it ends up somewhere between 8-14 or would you try to trade it??

... would you keep Andre Miller around for another year???

... would you give Andre Iguodala 5 years/$55 MIL??

... would you trade both our cap space and our pick if it meant obtaining someone like Stoudemire or Gasol??


Smith yes the rest no.

Arenas screw that we want nothing to do with him.

I would keep the draft pick.

No I would trade Andre Miller.

Yes I would give Andre a contract extension.

I would trade cap space and a player for Stoudemire but have no interest in trading our pick or for Gasol.
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Post#14 » by phiphan » Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:34 pm

The Guilty Party wrote:... would you risk having our cap space locked up for two weeks by going after a RFA (Okafor, Smith, Deng, Gordon)??? Probably only if there were some chance that they wouldn't get matched -- like the Smith situation with Atlanta's ownership.

... would you sign Gilbert Arenas away from the Wiz??? yes, definitely

.... would you keep our draft pick if it ends up somewhere between 8-14 or would you try to trade it?? keep it

... would you keep Andre Miller around for another year??? no

... would you give Andre Iguodala 5 years/$55 MIL?? yes

... would you trade both our cap space and our pick if it meant obtaining someone like Stoudemire or Gasol?? yes to Stoudemire
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Post#15 » by tk76 » Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:44 am

sec-106 wrote:Yes to Okafor+Smith only. (Any thought that if PHI does get Okafor, Sam could then be included in an Amare deal?)


I don't imagine that specific chain of events will happen where we end up with Amare and Okafor...

But that kind of player movement facilitated by our cap space and Millers contract is what I want to see happen. Boston made major moves to upgrade talent last year- and maybe our financial position will allow us to make a similar bold and wholly unexpected reworking of our roster this offseason.
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Post#16 » by IggyTheBEaST » Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:12 am

Philly's Best wrote:yes for Okafor, maybe Smith. No for Deng or Gordon.

No to Gilbert Arenas though I like him as a player and character.

depends on who is available with regard to the pick. Unexpexted guys drop every year. Can we package it for the PF we need?

Maybe to Andre Miller. It depends on what big free agent we can acquire or trade for, though I still hope he is traded at the deadline.

Yes to Iggy at 5 for 55.

Definitely would trade cap space and our pick for Stoudemire or Gasol though that would not be enough, so it depends on what else we are "throwing in."


I agree with most of it. Id still like to hold onto miller unless a really good offer comes along. Id definitly be down with giving up our pick and our cap space for amare or gasol as long as the pick isnt top 3, which makes it less likely.
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Post#17 » by UptownPhilly » Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:02 am

Yes to Okafor and Smith. No to Deng and Gordon.

I would love to have Gilbert on the Sixers. We would definitely have to take our chances on a PF(draft by need) in the draft though.

Why not keep our pick? We drafted Iguodala and Young in the 8-14 pick range.

I would love to keep Miller, only if we can obtain an all star calibre player and a solid draft pick. If we fail to do this, I hope he's gone.

Iguodala deserves no more than 5 years/55 million

I'm not so sure I would trade our cap space and draft pick for Stoudemire anymore(simply because of injury concerns), but I would do it for Gasol.
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Post#18 » by THFM » Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:23 am

The Guilty Party wrote:We've talked about the options that Stefanski and the Sixers will have this summer so it's time to find out who wants what hence... what I want to know is if the Sixers could....

... would you risk having our cap space locked up for two weeks by going after a RFA (Okafor, Smith, Deng, Gordon)???

... would you sign Gilbert Arenas away from the Wiz???

.... would you keep our draft pick if it ends up somewhere between 8-14 or would you try to trade it??

... would you keep Andre Miller around for another year???

... would you give Andre Iguodala 5 years/$55 MIL??

... would you trade both our cap space and our pick if it meant obtaining someone like Stoudemire or Gasol??


Yes to smith and okafor no to deng or gordon

no to gilbert we dont need iverson's younger brother on this team

i only keep the pick if mayo slips down, if not trade it fast

keep miller only if we dont get offers for expirings/draft picks

i give iggy between 55-58

i trade the cap space and picks only for stoudmaire not for gasol
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Post#19 » by The Guilty Party » Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:44 am

It seems like some poster have interest in Mayo if he slips down to us around #8. If we drafted Mayo... would you then try to deal Miller and make Mayo run the point or do you keep Miller and work Mayo into a guard rotation that includes himself, Miller, Iguodala, Willams, and *gulp* Willie Green.

Actually, that's too many players and someone would either have to be traded or ride the pine.
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Post#20 » by UptownPhilly » Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:31 am

The Guilty Party wrote:It seems like some poster have interest in Mayo if he slips down to us around #8. If we drafted Mayo... would you then try to deal Miller and make Mayo run the point or do you keep Miller and work Mayo into a guard rotation that includes himself, Miller, Iguodala, Willams, and *gulp* Willie Green.

Actually, that's too many players and someone would either have to be traded or ride the pine.


Mayo, if he's good enough, would probably start at the 2 with Iguodala at the 3, and Young the first 3 off the bench.

Of course L.Will would be the backup to Miller, so that's not much of an issue.

Our depth Chart would be like this:

Miller/L.Will
Mayo/Green
Iguodala/Young
PF(Smith?)/Evans/Hill
Dalembert/Smith/Booth

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