Trade Deadline: Today @ 3PM EST!

[The Guilty Party]

Rather than try to make a thread for every single rumor that pops up around the league, I figured it wouldn't hurt to have a thread for general discussion about the trade deadline and what's going on.

If this Kidd deal goes down with Dallas, do you think Denver is next in line for Western Conference teams that try to strike back??? Remember when AI and Melo were the hot pairiing in the West? Now they seem like old news. This has been a crazy season.

[Johnny Broad-Street]

I'm startingto think we can get a deal for Miller as "JKidd Light"

[PrimeTime21]

Should the Sixers look to make a move? With all these recent wins I'm sure Ed is a little reluctant to deal Miller but the teams that they've won against probably makes it "fools gold". Should they trade Evans to a team like Orlando given his recent success off the bench? Is Thad capable of playing the 4 spot or do they need to get a PF in a trade...All these wins seem to produce more questions than when they were losing!

[phillyborn_jacksonite]

i don't think ed will do anything. This team is playing well right no albeit against lesser foes but we have been beating them handily. If i were Ed, I would let this season play out and wait til summer when our roster will have more value if we keep playing at this level. By this summer we WILL be one of the upcoming young teams in the league. Think Miami Heat circa 2002 when they had Wade, Odom, and Butler. Now we have Andre, Andre, Lou and Thad. Two of those guys can be part of that comparison we just need our wade or our power forward and we will be nasty.

[dond]

i don't think ed will do anything. This team is playing well right no albeit against lesser foes but we have been beating them handily. If i were Ed, I would let this season play out and wait til summer when our roster will have more value if we keep playing at this level. By this summer we WILL be one of the upcoming young teams in the league. Think Miami Heat circa 2002 when they had Wade, Odom, and Butler. Now we have Andre, Andre, Lou and Thad. Two of those guys can be part of that comparison we just need our wade or our power forward and we will be nasty.

I agree. Just sit tight and wait for the right opportunity. This team is only 1 or 2 players away from contention for a title ... probably 2.

[The Guilty Party]

I'm startingto think we can get a deal for Miller as "JKidd Light"

I was listening to Jody Mac on 950AM and thought he made an excellent point about Miller. Jody said that he believes Ed has a pretty good idea of what he wants for Andre Miller and if a team comes to Ed and offers those things... Ed will trade Andre Miller. Jody said that if a team comes to Ed and tries to negotiate for something less than what Ed wants, Ed will just keep Miller and be happy with that.

This Kidd deal really shakes things up. There's still a full week before the deadline passes and as Johnny said.... I think a "Kidd Light" deal could get it done. My definition of Kidd Light is a package of expiring contracts, 1 first round pick, 1 solid NBA prospect. I think it's unlikely he gets moved though.

I'm a little shocked at how quiet Chicago has been on the trade front. Are they just going to go into the off-season and try to then shake the roster up?

[The Guilty Party]

I agree. Just sit tight and wait for the right opportunity. This team is only 1 or 2 players away from contention for a title ... probably 2.

Don't drink the bongwater!

I guess you are correct in a way... I mean if we got LeBron and Duncan we'd definitely be contenders.

EDIT: Couldn't you say that all of the teams in the NBA are 2 players away from title contenders???

[CinciSixersFan]

The "JKidd Light" phrase is a perfect fit.

Based on the proposed deal with Dallas, I'm not sure that we couldn't have gotten Devin Harris in a similer deal for Miller, maybe minus the multiple first round picks. While this wouldn't address our need at PF it would solidify our back court for years to come with Harris, Iggy, and Lou Williams.

[The Guilty Party]

If George sticks to his guns on this... the Kidd trade could be in trouble because Dallas doesn't have other salaries to replace George with especially since Eddie Jones has come out said he wouldn't approve a trade either.

I know Ed has said that he has not made any calls to see what Andre Miller could get in a trade, I believe this is the one case in which he should pick the phone up and call Dallas. If he could sweep in there and send Miller and Evans down there and take back part of the package they were willing to send for Kidd, I would be happy.

[CinciSixersFan]

I'd go for Evans and Miller for Diop, Stackhouse, and Harris, while I'd love picks, I might do the deal without them.

[Gsraider]

I know Ed has said that he has not made any calls to see what Andre Miller could get in a trade, I believe this is the one case in which he should pick the phone up and call Dallas. If he could sweep in there and send Miller and Evans down there and take back part of the package they were willing to send for Kidd, I would be happy.

I was thinking the same thing. I don't think Ed wants to trade A. Miller in general, but if he can bring back a guy like D. Harris, you could simply include Stackhouse and get the job done. You could also probably get it done by taking on Ager if you wish, along with Diop, but that's not the cleanest route. In the first scenario, Philly would have its young PG of the future and cleared another $5-6 million in cap room. I'm not a huge advocate of trading Miller, but this is a reasonable trade-off for a rebuilding team.

In the end, I wonder if this would ever have a chance anyway because as good as Miller is, he doesn't make the marketing splash that Kidd does.

[Dedicated_76ers_fan]

Marketing splash? It's about winning basketball games. And while Jason Kidd, as always has been a PHENEOMONAL PG(once again, his stats are only matched by MJ the 2nd and Oscar as points). Andre Miller is RIGHT THERE with a far worse team then what Kidd's been handed. He costs less and, you don't have to put up with the Devean George's of the NBA complaining.

[sports savant]

TGP: great post(s):

George (Dallas) was quoted that he blocked the trade but only til his agent could come into town.

Something like he loses his Larry Bird rights if this trade goes thru....

even He said the trade will most likely go down
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[sports savant]

Ed has stated that he's not just taking expirings and a late 1st for Miller. so we all know its gotta be more than that.

TGP: I dont think the 76ers can get: expirings/1st rnd/ & young player.
(for instance: Kwame Brown/ Crittenton/Lakers 1st rnd-- an example people!!)

you got the "big 3" in the east sitting laughin (cleveland too) at all these huge western trades and these top teams know they have to play two competitive rnds before the finals...

but Cleve and Orlando need to make a deal just in an attempt to compete in the final 8.

maybe Orlando comes in at the last minute, Cleve cant w/o help most likely from a western conf team, cause neither have that "young prospect" that Ed seemingly wants.

so if thats the case---- come on nba draft; cause THATS when the $h*t will go down and the big names get moved.

frustruating but its our fate!!

[Fire BK]

-= My definition of Kidd Light is a package of expiring contracts, 1 first round pick, 1 solid NBA prospect. I think it's unlikely he gets moved though.

Right on the money.

I think that's the exact cost for Miller. But there doesn't appear to be a viable trade partner. CLE seems the next most likely team to make a desperate, panic move. LeBron wanted Kidd so badly, he's probably putting pressure on the front office to make a move. What's Danny Ferry's first inclination? Inquire about his good buddy and former teammate, Andre Miller.

But does CLE have the goods to get it done? Well... they got the Gooden. And the logical deal would be Gooden + 08 1st + Newble. But this trade doesn't really appear to help either team dramatically.

The next most likely partner for Miller appears to be ORL. But Jameer Nelson's contract is just too large. DEN doesn't have the pieces. It's really hard to imagine a scenario where Miller gets dealt in the next week.

[underpressure]

According to the wiretap, the Grizz and the Nets engage themselves in another trade talk. The subject of those talks is Mike Miller and apparently they offered them Magloire and Nachbar. At the moment I am almost going nuts. First, the freakin' GM of the Grizzlies dumped Gasol and now he might ship Miller for free away. How about then Willie G for Rudy Gay?

[Mik317]

can you say worst GM ever?

[Gsraider]

Marketing splash? It's about winning basketball games. And while Jason Kidd, as always has been a PHENEOMONAL PG(once again, his stats are only matched by MJ the 2nd and Oscar as points). Andre Miller is RIGHT THERE with a far worse team then what Kidd's been handed. He costs less and, you don't have to put up with the Devean George's of the NBA complaining.

With the exception of your surprise over the use of "marketing splash," the other part was my point about acquring Miller. I actually think he might be the smarter pick up for less at this point, but if you don't believe that bringing in a big name like Kidd over Miller matters, I'm a bit surprised. I don't think most people who attend the games are like the diehard fans that peruse message boards and the fact of the matter is, J. Kidd is far more of a household name than Miller and will generate more excitement and merchandise sales. I absolutely think Cuban wants to win, but I bet he wants the big name too.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

As constructed Mike Miller is who we should target at this point. I'd also like us to get Lowry if Miller can't be had.

[Sandalf42]

Look, it's simple math:

(Carney + Utah Pick)/WG = Lowry + Miller