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Would you vote for Miller?

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:18 pm
by Philly Family
If the voting for MVP was now would and will Miller get some MVP vote? Stats aside, even thought he is having a career year will he get some votes for MVP? If you you at as who is most important to their team then I think Miller has to get some consideration. But looking at the supporting cast and comparable stats to other MVP possibilities, Labron, Kobe, Chris Paul of course Miller doesn't match up, but we have seen him control the flow of a game as well as dominate a game. So do you think he will get some votes be it at the bottom of the list, MVP votes?

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:29 pm
by Stanford
An MVP doesn't play for a .500 team no matter how bad they are.

CP3 gets my vote.

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:48 pm
by ITK9
my vote goes to cp3.

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:30 pm
by Sixersftw
cp3 is the mvp of the league and my realgm fantasy team

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 12:18 am
by UptownPhilly
CP3, but he will probably be cheated.

I'm gonna go on a limb and say KG.

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 12:27 am
by freshie2
Miller may get some votes, but it's KG or Paul.

Re: Would you vote for Miller?

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 12:46 am
by IglooKing2
1. Paul
2. KG
3. LeBron
4. Howard
5. Nash

Maybe if the ballot went to ten players rather than five, Miller would deserve some consideration. But I don't think he can compare with those guys. And probably not Kobe or Duncan, either.

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 12:52 am
by ankle420breaker
anything is possible... PJ Brown got a vote a few years ago

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 1:04 am
by STChaser
How does Kobe get MVP consideration when he's surrounded by Odom, Bynum, and Gasol and coached by Phil Jackson? You can't compare his supporting cast to what Miller has around him. Ditto for KG, who has Pierce and Ray Allen. If it were based on which player makes his team better, Miller should be the hands down favorite over these two. If it were based on most talented player in the league, that's an entirely different story.

STChaser

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 1:48 am
by chrice
They should take away the 2007 MVP from Dirk and give it to Lebron/Kobe/KG. Give the 2008 MVP to Chris Paul.

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 1:52 am
by UptownPhilly
STChaser wrote:How does Kobe get MVP consideration when he's surrounded by Odom, Bynum, and Gasol and coached by Phil Jackson? You can't compare his supporting cast to what Miller has around him. Ditto for KG, who has Pierce and Ray Allen. If it were based on which player makes his team better, Miller should be the hands down favorite over these two. If it were based on most talented player in the league, that's an entirely different story.

STChaser


I'm not so sure about that. The last few MVP's have had great supporting casts.

Dirk had Terry, Harris, Stackhouse, etc.
Steve Nash had Stoudemire, Marion, Diaw, etc.
KG had Cassell, Sprewell, Sczerbiak, etc.
Even Duncan with Robinson, Parker, Ginobili

It really doesn't matter how much talent you have if you're that great of a player.

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 1:56 am
by MicrOLak3R
You have to have a great supporting cast. If you don't. You won't get the MVP. It's the Most Valuable Player with the Best Teammates Award. I would not complain at all about who wins it if the players, coaches, GM were voting. But letting these biassed reporters vote stinks up the whole thing imo.

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 1:59 am
by dbodner
How does Kobe get MVP consideration when he's surrounded by Odom, Bynum, and Gasol and coached by Phil Jackson


a near .700 winning percentage maybe?

by that definition, Magic should have never won an MVP. Bird neither. And Moses shouldn't that year he was surrounded by Doc, Toney and Cheeks. Duncan shouldn't have when surrounded by Parker and Ginobili.

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 3:31 am
by STChaser
Dabods, you're missing the point. Is it the MVP or the Best Player? Because they are clearly two different things. Miller is the MVP of our team in the sense that if you subtracted him from our roster, we'd be much worse. But Iguodala is probably the best athlete on our team. They should differentiate between the two.

STChaser

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:44 am
by el loco
STChaser wrote:How does Kobe get MVP consideration when he's surrounded by Odom, Bynum, and Gasol and coached by Phil Jackson? You can't compare his supporting cast to what Miller has around him. Ditto for KG, who has Pierce and Ray Allen. If it were based on which player makes his team better, Miller should be the hands down favorite over these two. If it were based on most talented player in the league, that's an entirely different story.

STChaser


First of all, I am not a big Kobe fan, but to answer your question, he was surrounded by the same cast last season minus Gasol, who happens to be hurt. He has 3 rings, great stats, and has made a point to get his team involved in the game, which is something he hasn't done in years past. When the season started, nobody thought the Lakers were going to go anywhere. I think he has earned the right to be in the running.

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 7:06 am
by underpressure
If the NBA wants to be serious they have to give the MVP title to Chris Paul since he has vastly improved his stats and the winning percentage of his team. That argument was also made to Nash and he won it.

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:57 am
by chrice
STChaser wrote:Dabods, you're missing the point. Is it the MVP or the Best Player? Because they are clearly two different things. Miller is the MVP of our team in the sense that if you subtracted him from our roster, we'd be much worse. But Iguodala is probably the best athlete on our team. They should differentiate between the two.



MVP goes to player most responsible for the team winning. It doesn't go to the best player automatically, it also is determined by how they play. Last year's playoffs for example. Nobody questions that Duncan is the best player on the Spurs, however, the best performance and production was arguably coming from Parker, so that's a case for which Parker should have been considered MVP for that specific post season, rather than the best player, Duncan.

Typically, however, the best player will give the best performance, and therefore will win MVP. Shaq, Duncan, Magic, etc..

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:07 am
by big123
The MVP should be Chris Paul no doubt IMO.

Miller should get votes for player of the month or something, not MVP for a whole season.

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 7:51 pm
by LieCheatSteal
Kobe shouldn't be MVP. He was itching to get out of LA before the season started. That's not an MVP in my book.

Paul should get the nod. At the very least, Lebron.

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:04 pm
by LongLiveHinkie
Chris Paul deserves it.