salary cap this offseason?

fasca · Post #1 » by **fasca** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 12:37 am

Hey im a nets fan just trying to figure out what you are going to be like next year. You guys will have about 25 million in cap room this offseason. Hor much are you going to sign iggy and williams for? Will you still have enough to make a real run at josh smith?

Thanks

ankle420breaker · Post #2 » by **ankle420breaker** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 12:43 am

After factoring in Iguodala and Lou's cap holds we'll have approximately 10mil to put towards free agency. Attaining Smith is possible, but I don't see Atlanta letting him walk without a fight.

Post #3 » by **The Guilty Party** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 12:58 am

If/when the Sixers strike out with signing Okafor or Smith, I believe we'll see Stefanski use that cap space in a trade for a PF. Who will that trade be for? Well, I think it could range anywhere from Odom to Villanueva to Randolph to Tyrus Thomas to even Amare Stoudemire (extremely unlikely).

Frankly... we don't know.

Post #4 » by **tk76** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 4:46 am

If the Sixers have 10.5M cap space that means they can make a 5yr/66M offer at a FA. I think we will have a little more cap space because we will have less salry tied up with our later #1 pick.

Post #5 » by **The Guilty Party** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 4:58 am

If we have the 17th pick in the draft, I believe the salary for next season will be $1.4MIL. If you add that to the other salaries that we are committed to having, that puts us at $36MIL. If we figure the cap to increase to $58MIL... we would have a $22MIL difference. Subtracting out Iguodala's cap hold ($8.4) and Williams' cap hold ($2.4) leaves us with $11.2 MIL in cap space.

Again... I think we're going to have to use in a sign-and-trade because $11.2 isn't going to be enough to scare off Charlotte or Atlanta from matching any offers for Okafor or Smith.

Post #6 » by **tk76** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 5:01 am

A amx contract starts at 13M, so 11M is pretty far from getting it done for Okafor or Smith. Biedrins maybe- GS will be under a lot of cap pressure.

Post #7 » by **The Guilty Party** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 5:03 am

If we didn't have a center like Sam (defense and rebounds), I would be all for Biedrins. Unfortunately, I think the two of them play too much alike and would leave us scratching our heads next season and the season after that wondering how we can obtain an inside scorer.

Post #8 » by **tk76** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 5:19 am

Agreed- but honestly I really haven't seen the guy play enough to be a good judge of whether he could develop a decent offensive game.

ITK9 · Post #9 » by **ITK9** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 12:34 pm

if we want to give max to a player(maybe okafor?)we need to trade willie green/evans/cal booth for cap space..but it will be hard.maybe reggie can be traded but i doubt that any team would want willie green.

Post #10 » by **tk76** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 1:02 pm

The only team that has the cap space to take on one of our players ios Memphis- and I don't see them doing that.

Since almost any trade will be with a capped team, we would have to free up the extra space by trading Green (or someone else like) in a sign and trade for the RFA, That means the RFA needs to basically force a trade with their current team.

Skates · Post #11 » by **Skates** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 1:37 pm

tk76 wrote:The only team that has the cap space to take on one of our players ios Memphis- and I don't see them doing that.

Since almost any trade will be with a capped team, we would have to free up the extra space by trading Green (or someone else like) in a sign and trade for the RFA, That means the RFA needs to basically force a trade with their current team.

There may be other teams with cap room depending on who opts out under early termination options and whether teams renounce those players and/or other FA's and RFA's. I know the Clippers fall into this category with Brand and Magette, possibly Washington with Arenas and Miami with Marion, although I am not sure about those last two. Also teams may be able to take on some of our salary in a trade if they have a trade exception handy.

Post #12 » by **The Guilty Party** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 1:42 pm

There could be some more teams with cap space but who is trading cap space for Willie Green or Reggie Evans??? Nobody.

Skates · Post #13 » by **Skates** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 2:49 pm

The Guilty Party wrote:There could be some more teams with cap space but who is trading cap space for Willie Green or Reggie Evans??? Nobody.

Oh sure, throw reality into the deal and it takes all of the fun out of it. Actually, if Willie's game had not fallen off the face of the earth he might have been worth some cap space in a trade this summer. After his play of late, not so much.

Post #14 » by **The Guilty Party** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 3:47 pm

Reality bites, my friend. Here's some good news though. Even if we had $20MIL in cap space and could max out Okafor or Smith, odds are that Charlotte or Atlanta would threaten to match so we would have to do a sign-and-trade anyway. The difference of course if that the only leverage Smith or Okafor will have this summer is to threaten to sign a 1 year deal and walk next summer as a UFA. If they do sign the 1 year deal, they'll have a no trade clause which means that Charlotte and Atlanta will know that they can/will lose them for nothing in 1 years time. It'll be interesting to see how this all plays out.

Kunlun · Post #15 » by **Kunlun** » Wed Apr 9, 2008 1:47 am

I think we should throw everything we have at Okafor and see if he comes over. He would be a pretty good fit here.

Post #16 » by **The Guilty Party** » Wed Apr 9, 2008 2:31 am

I like Okafor but is a guy who averages 13 and 11 really worth max money?? He does a lot of really nice things on the floor and would help strengthen our team defense to a point where we would be top 5 in the league year in and year out... but is he worth the max?

bebopdeluxe · Post #17 » by **bebopdeluxe** » Wed Apr 9, 2008 2:46 am

TGP:

I don't think Okafor is worth the max. Assuming that he is healthy, Brand is the only guy that I see that is worth the max, becuase of what he brings on both ends of the floor. While we certainly need a legit PF who can rebound and body up the opposing team, I think we need that guy to also be a thread on the offensive end...someone who can draw a double team....and create space for Iggy, Thad and others....and Okafor is not that.

Kunlun · Post #18 » by **Kunlun** » Wed Apr 9, 2008 3:34 am

The Guilty Party wrote:I like Okafor but is a guy who averages 13 and 11 really worth max money?? He does a lot of really nice things on the floor and would help strengthen our team defense to a point where we would be top 5 in the league year in and year out... but is he worth the max?

We won't have the max to offer him. Like we concluded earlier, after we re-sign Iguodala and Williams we will have about 11million left to spend. Okafor is worth that 11 million a year in my opinion.

Post #19 » by **The Guilty Party** » Wed Apr 9, 2008 4:08 am

Considering that Charlotte offered him $12MIL per season and he turned it down... I imagine Okafor will not sign a deal for $11MIL per at this point.

While we certainly need a legit PF who can rebound and body up the opposing team, I think we need that guy to also be a thread on the offensive end...someone who can draw a double team....and create space for Iggy, Thad and others....and Okafor is not that.

I agree with you on that but those guys are hard to come by and if you can find them, the odds of getting them are slim. It's because of this that I suggested Zach Randolph in another thread. I honestly think I would rather have Zach Randoloh at 3 years for $47MIL than Okafor for 5 years/$70MIL.

Kunlun · Post #20 » by **Kunlun** » Wed Apr 9, 2008 4:28 am

The Guilty Party wrote:Considering that Charlotte offered him $12MIL per season and he turned it down... I imagine Okafor will not sign a deal for $11MIL per at this point.

Let's hope Okafor wants to come to a winning environment for once and take a pay cut. However, the Bobcats will most likely match whatever offer we can give him.