Chris Bosh

[Fire BK]

Eddie said he's got some PF names on his white board... I'd be hard-pressed to believe one of those is not Chris Bosh.

Bosh is your quintessential post presence. He's a freaky athlete. He's young. And the Raptors' franchise currently looks like they're stuck in neutral. If anything, they've digressed this year. And perhaps they could use a major shake-up.

Obviously, Bosh is a perenial all-star, and he might be completely unavailable. But if this year's trade season told us anything, it's that hardly anybody is untouchable if the price is right. The Sixers could certainly put together an attractive package for Bosh.

Obviously, any trade would require Iggy. I have no problem sliding Thad over to the 3 if you can land Bosh. It would probably also require Sammy. Most likely, the deal would be: Iggy/Sam for Bosh/Nesterovic. Perhaps you could somehow do Iggy/Jason Smith/pick for Bosh, but doubtful.

Personally, I do either of these in a heartbeat. Iggy is a dynamic talent. But we are loaded on the wings, and you absolutely need a post presence to win in the NBA. IF TOR wants Sam, too... Say you draft Robin Lopez or Hibbert/Thabeet at 17. What does this lineup do for you:

Miller
Lou/Carney/Green
Thaddeus
Bosh
R. Lopez / J.Smith

In addition to adding a stud PF, this trade would also add even more flexibility too. Miller and Rasho would represent $18 mil in expirings. Their payroll would become unbelievably tasty. I actually think this is realistic. Thoughts?

[LongLiveHinkie]

Why give up some of your best players for Bosh, when we can keep the team in tact and sign a PF?

To me that seems like the much more logical option. I've always liked Bosh though.

[SendEm]

I would definitely trade for Bosh but only if it meant being able to keep Dalembert. Bosh is worthless in the win column without a center and PG. Iggy, Thad, Lou Williams and Jason Smith would be on the next flight out of town. All of the rest of the positions can be filled over the next couple of years through free agency and the draft. Dalembert and Bosh are a frontline that can compete against ANYONE in this league for a championship. Baron Davis becomes a free agent in the next couple of seasons... It all starts with the frontline unless you have a great playmaker playing out of his mind like LBJ and MJ. But Bosh is an "untouchable", Elite youthful PF's and C's just don't get traded from teams unless a PF or C is coming back in return. The Pau Gasol trade was set up by the NBA...lol

[eyeatoma]

Ewwwwwww....no thanks...

Bosh has too many injury worries. And you want to give away Thad as well??? Are you nuts???Iggy Thad, Lou and Jason Williams? Hahahah...

So who's sg??sf??Willie Green and Carney? Is Bosh supposed to score 40 ppg???

Wow...

Bosh misses about 15-20 games on average. I'm not mortgaging my future for a PF thats in his early 20's and already has injury worries. That too with his knee...

[eyeatoma]

Sorry FireBK...that wasn't directed at you...it was to Sendem...

I still don't like the move though. If we don't have to give away Iggy or Thad, then I would do it in a heartbeat. I would be willing to give up Dalembert for Bosh, and probably Carney/Willie Green. Or, just Lou Williams.

I just don't want want to give away our star sg/sf for a PF that already has injury concerns.

[chrice]

If Babcock was still the GM, then sure, I'd discuss. But Toronto knows we need a PF, and will not give up their star player for cheap. They are set at PG, so Miller wouldn't be in the trade. The trade would likely be something like Dalembert + Thad for Bosh + who knows what. Maybe that would set up our roster to be AI2+Bosh+Brand/Smith? It could end up working, but it could just as easily screw the team over again in the long run.

I agree with eyeatoma, in that Iggy & Thad are untouchable. Dalembert+ Evans/Willie/Carney would be all I'd be willing to give up.

[Wilfried]

If you get the opportunity to add one of the best big men in the league, and a young one, you don't hesitate.

A guy like Iguodala is much easier to replace by free agency/draft.

We don't get Bosh, but if there was a chance, the only 2 players I wouldn't use for trying to get him, are Lou-Will and Thad.

[freshie2]

I'm not as big a Bosh fan as some, but obviously he'd be a huge upgrade here.

As far as trading Sam vs other swing players, yes the swing players are more abundant, but in this case, is Sam easier to replace? Sam has tremendous physical skills, but still lacks the game sense/IQ to ever be great. If you tell me his mind is going to catch up with his body, then I'm on board. He's a 10/10/2 guy, but I don't think he's a driving force on this team...he's not one of the leaders, he often times looks more like one who is being pushed and driven by his teammates.

Bosh would be interesting, and you could make points to justify either type of deal, but most likely this type of deal would include Dalembert.

BTW...Biedrens had another nice night last night....17/17/3. I know I'm a pain in the neck with this guy, but he should be very high on the white board list as well. Drop the motherload to grab this 22 year old big man.

[corwin]

Toronto would be getting some good value in Iggy/Dalembert for Bosh but I doubt they'd consider moving him. I can see them moving anyone/everyone else on their roster though. Too bad most of their other players are so average.

[STChaser]

Obviously, any trade would require Iggy. I have no problem sliding Thad over to the 3 if you can land Bosh. It would probably also require Sammy. Most likely, the deal would be: Iggy/Sam for Bosh/Nesterovic. Perhaps you could somehow do Iggy/Jason Smith/pick for Bosh, but doubtful.

Absolutely NOT. No way do you give up your team captain. Iguodala is NOT easy to replace because aside from his physical attributes, he also brings leadership and has a desire to win and compete that is contagious. I would rather settle for a poor man's Bosh in Villanueva before trading away pieces like Iguodala, Sam, or Thaddeus. Besides, what about our draft pick? Who is to say that DiLeo won't find another diamond in the rough with our pick to play PF. He's got a great track record so far and I would bet that he pulls off another great pick for us this year. Picking up Bosh via an Iguodala and Sam trade is taking two steps back to take one step forward. I love Bosh as a Sixer as much of the rest of you but that's a trade I'm not willing to make.

STChaser

[dbodner]

It's going to be extremely hard to sign and trade Iguodala to teams without cap room with his BYC status.

[CPops57]

We're in position to take two steps forward without having to take a step back first.

Given that the Sixers have 10+ million in cap room, draft picks to burn, and other trade assets....my priority would be to try and get a PF without giving up the best player on the team.

[Grenerd686]

I dont see how this makes the sixers better. They upgrade one position(PF) to downgrade two positions (SG & C).

[Philly Family]

The question would be if we traded Sammy and Iggy and got Bosh could we then go after Beidrins from G-State and have a line up of Beidrins at center, Bosh at the 4, Thad the 3, Carney or a draft pick at 2 and Miller at the point. Not to bad in my mind...

[STChaser]

The question would be if we traded Sammy and Iggy and got Bosh could we then go after Beidrins from G-State and have a line up of Beidrins at center, Bosh at the 4, Thad the 3, Carney or a draft pick at 2 and Miller at the point. Not to bad in my mind...

Except for you don't know how the chemistry will work among these players. Why mess up a good thing that IS working? Get the two pieces we need via FA and the draft and go from there. I don't see the point of trading away half the team.

STChaser

[bball4life]

This is all really a moot point anyways.

No way on earth Toronto trades Bosh. Toronto needs to try and trade for a second all star level player to complement Bosh, not unload Bosh for a handful of good players.

In my mind there's only about 5 players in the league that Toronto would consider trading Bosh for, and we don't own any of those.

[Philly Family]

Honestly if we can not get Brand I think we should keep our money and go into the draft looking for a pf..I think it is going to be a very deep draft and we should be able to pick up a good player at where we a picking...maybe Thompson from Rider, Speights from Florida, lots of potential players even Darrell A from Kansas all good possibilities

[SendEm]

Big men mean more to winning NBA championships than guards and SF's. We could have 2 Iguodala's and 2 Thad's on our team and still not be able to win a championship in this league because only 5 men play per team and Chris Bosh would ABUSE ANY "Thad or Iguodala" type average NBA height defender on his way to shooting a sterling .700% FG.

Iggy, Thad, Jason Smith, Lou Williams all equal non ALL STAR players and one full time starter. If we can trade 1 starter and 3 bench players for 1 All STAR big man in Bosh, the deal is DONE.

One thing that I am positive about is that non All Star shooting guards, small forwards, combo guards, and big men can all be acquired through the draft and free agency outside of the lottery and for the MLE EVERY YEAR. It's pure luck that would land you an ALL STAR caliber big man through those very same channels. Chris Bosh's aren't to be found outside of the NBA lottery or for the MLE, but Danny Granger, Kevin Martin, Josh Howard, and Janero Pargo are all non lottery/MLE players that could EASILY replace Iggy, Thad, and Lou Williams.

Put down the fantasy basketball leagues and pick up the real world values of positions and production associated with winning NBA titles not Fantasy basketball "categories".

[SendEm]

This is all really a moot point anyways.

No way on earth Toronto trades Bosh. Toronto needs to try and trade for a second all star level player to complement Bosh, not unload Bosh for a handful of good players.

In my mind there's only about 5 players in the league that Toronto would consider trading Bosh for, and we don't own any of those.

That's all very true.
There's no way that Toronto would trade Bosh for 1 starter and 3 bench players from the Sixers.
But there are actually people that wouldn't trade Thad and Iggy for Bosh.
I'm of the mind to throw Lou Will and Jason Smith in the deal to keep Toronto focusing on the "potential" of all of those young perimeter players in return for their ALL STAR/Olympian Power Forward

[The Guilty Party]

1) If Toronto decided to move Bosh... I highly doubt it would be to a divisional foe.

2) I know Bosh is an all-star and all of that, but he doesn't exactly give me a feeling of a guy who is ever going to be "the man" on a title contender. I wouldn't pass on him if I had a chance to get him but I wouldn't break the bank for him either or else we would become Toronto South.