The Improvement of Carney

IggyTheBEaST · Post #1 » by **IggyTheBEaST** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 1:38 am

I think this definitely deserves a thread. Carney is no stud, but few can deny that he has been playing alot better as of late.

freshie2 · Post #2 » by **freshie2** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 1:41 am

Just keep hitting the 3 and defending, and I'll be happy.

Post #3 » by **The Guilty Party** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 1:43 am

This is a weird night to start this thread since he did little to nothing against the Pistons. In fact, I don't even remember him playing.

THFM · Post #4 » by **THFM** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 1:48 am

I was one of those who were too hard on Carney. He is basically Korver but can actually defend. That's all he has to do.

Post #5 » by **dbodner** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:01 am

freshie2 wrote:Just keep hitting the 3 and defending, and I'll be happy.

Yup. Earlier in the year Mo got on Carney that he needed to take the ball to the rim more and create. I think that's about the last thing Carney should do. He just doesn't have the handles or body control to be successful, and when he shoots runners or creates his own jumpers, his effectiveness goes down. When he limits his field goals to mostly catch and shoot and transition, he has success.

Post #6 » by **dbodner** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:03 am

THFM wrote:I was one of those who were too hard on Carney. He is basically Korver but can actually defend. That's all he has to do.

He's playing better, but he's not near the shooter Korver is/was. Korver's obviously not near the defender or athlete, which just accentuates the point that they're not basically alike at all

SendEm · Post #7 » by **SendEm** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:24 am

It's amazing that for such a great athlete at SG that he misses so many layup attempts.

ankle420breaker · Post #8 » by **ankle420breaker** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:27 am

dbodner wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Yup. Earlier in the year Mo got on Carney that he needed to take the ball to the rim more and create. I think that's about the last thing Carney should do. He just doesn't have the handles or body control to be successful, and when he shoots runners or creates his own jumpers, his effectiveness goes down. When he limits his field goals to mostly catch and shoot and transition, he has success.

Couldn't have said it any better. He's improved his shot selection tremendously over the last 13 games. I actually forgot about his patented running jumper until you just mentioned it.

Not to mention, when Carney is on the floor with Iguodala and Young we play tenacious defense and are virtually unstoppable in a fast break situation.

UptownPhilly · Post #9 » by **UptownPhilly** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:20 am

THFM wrote:I was one of those who were too hard on Carney. He is basically Korver but can actually defend. That's all he has to do.

Korver is more skilled than Carney. Better passer, better post game, better shooter, better decision maker.

The only things Carney has over Korver are defense, athleticsm, and a better ball handle(yikes).

ITK9 · Post #10 » by **ITK9** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:07 am

imo it's all about confidence.once you start hitting shoots and getting minutes you can increase your production.carney played well in the last 2 months because mo gave him credit and gave him minutes.

Pure Hatred · Post #11 » by **Pure Hatred** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:53 am

I think Carney's career can develop like Bowen's did. In fact, the shooting %s are pretty similar during their sophmore years: 42/34/66 to 42/32/68. I have faith in Rodney that he will improve and grow into a Bruce Bowen-esque role for us during our future championship runs

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bech01a1 · Post #12 » by **bech01a1** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 12:25 pm

The Guilty Party wrote:This is a weird night to start this thread since he did little to nothing against the Pistons. In fact, I don't even remember him playing.

He played okay in the first half, hitting a few shots in his only run of the night. For some reason he didn't get in the game at all in the second half.

IggyTheBEaST · Post #13 » by **IggyTheBEaST** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:49 pm

SendEm wrote:It's amazing that for such a great athlete at SG that he misses so many layup attempts.

I dont understand why he doesnt just throw it down :dontknow:

Louis Williams · Post #14 » by **Louis Williams** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:36 pm

dbodner wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

He's playing better, but he's not near the shooter Korver is/was. Korver's obviously not near the defender or athlete, which just accentuates the point that they're not basically alike at all

So are you admitting that you were wrong about Carney?

is1531 · Post #15 » by **is1531** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:44 pm

SendEm wrote:It's amazing that for such a great athlete at SG that he misses so many layup attempts.

Carney's layups bank out the same way Ron Anderson's layups use to bank out. Anderson was a great shooter, who missed a lot of layups. Anderson even tried some lefthanded layups, but they still banked out. Size was a problem for Anderson and size is a problem for Carney.

I 'll bet if Carney never saw a player on the court bigger than 6ft 6", he would make more layups. However, that is not reality.Carney needs more backspin on his layups.