NBC Sports says 76ers sleeper team in 08 East playoffs

[Mozy-76er Fan]

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/24128078/site/21683474/

[SendEm]

"Actually, Iguodala could end up, dare I say, being better than Wade."


The man should be FIRED for making that statement...

[tk76]

He also said the Sixers have 30M in cap space. If he does get fired for his mistatements, at least he might find a job in the Bush Administration.

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AI's agent paid him off.

[ITK9]

"Actually, Iguodala could end up, dare I say, being better than Wade."


The man should be FIRED for making that statement...

iguodala was better than wade this season.

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iguodala was better than wade this season.

Huh?

[ITK9]

huh?

iguodala's team won 25 more games and iggy didn't play with shaq or marion.

[SendEm]

AI's agent paid him off.

I wouldn't doubt it at all. That would be a small investment in comparison to the potential spike in money he would make if Iggy's value increases in the publics' opinion making the Sixers brass appear cheap if they offer Iggy a $50-57 million dollar deal...

[SendEm]

huh?

iguodala's team won 25 more games and iggy didn't play with shaq or marion.

[Sixerscan]

Well if he thinks Wade is gonna break down in a couple years Penny Hardaway style I could see where he's coming from. But even in this season, the worst since his rookie year, when he played he was much much more effective than Andre was.

[dbodner]

Wade's missed 62 games in the past two years. That's scary.

[The Guilty Party]

I forget who... maybe it was Bill Simmons... recently posted some similarities between Wade and Penny that was both interesting and frightening (if you're a Wade fan).

[Wildfire]

Iggy will never be as "good" as Wade because that's not his style, he's not an offensively aggressive player (I think he's forcing himself to be right now, but I'm sure he'd regress to a 2nd/3rd option very easily and happily once we get some more scorers).

If his mindset was like LeBron's, I bet he could/would average 25/6/6 for at least 2-3 years of his career.

But the amount of hate that he gets (from here and in general around the league) is truly unwarranted. Any guy thats averages 20/5/5 on decent percentages is a damn good player (as long as he keeps it up), period.

I think he'll be the 3rd option once we get our PF (who will be 1st) and Thad develops (who will be 2nd). Is he worth 10-12 million a year? Probably not, but honestly, thats what 20/5/5 players get these days.

What I'm interested in, is how much he cares about winning, because if a couple million is the difference from getting an all-star caliber PF this off-season, then I have major questions about his desire to win, and that is an issue that could ultimately lead to his departure.

[SendEm]

There's really no similarities between Wade and Penny. Penny has much more in common with Steve Francis. They both couldn't adjust their games once they lost there supreme explosiveness and where asked to play a more team oriented brand of basketball, instead of the AI under Jim O'brien style of "I will make every play for this team whether I am passing it or shooting it." Wade can play off of the ball for the rest of his career and still average 25+ppg, Penny and Franchise couldn't do that.

[barkley34]

Wade has way more passion than Penny ever had plus he is much better in the clutch(finals MVP). Wade probably just rushed back a little too soon from the injury last year.

[SendEm]

Iggy will never be as "good" as Wade because that's not his style, he's not an offensively aggressive player (I think he's forcing himself to be right now, but I'm sure he'd regress to a 2nd/3rd option very easily and happily once we get some more scorers).

If his mindset was like LeBron's, I bet he could/would average 25/6/6 for at least 2-3 years of his career.

But the amount of hate that he gets (from here and in general around the league) is truly unwarranted. Any guy thats averages 20/5/5 on decent percentages is a damn good player (as long as he keeps it up), period.

I think he'll be the 3rd option once we get our PF (who will be 1st) and Thad develops (who will be 2nd). Is he worth 10-12 million a year? Probably not, but honestly, thats what 20/5/5 players get these days.

What I'm interested in, is how much he cares about winning, because if a couple million is the difference from getting an all-star caliber PF this off-season, then I have major questions about his desire to win, and that is an issue that could ultimately lead to his departure.

I can't disagree with anything that you wrote. I believe the amount of "hate" that Iggy has received is in direct relationship to the huge amount of "love" that he receives which is unwarranted ESPECIALLY in relationship to the sort of HUGE payday that he turned down in a game that has a salary cap. You have people saying that he will be better than Dwayne Wade, then you have people making up ridiculous categories of 20 6 and 6 then 20 5 and 5 then 19 5 and 5 categories JUST to fit him into the same group as elite players like Lebron and Pippen.

Iggy is a very good player but he's flawed and is SMARTLY being placed into a position to succeed with his current team but his numbers/production DOES NOT translate to other teams like they do here in Philly where he can be a focal point while simultaneously covering his half court scoring deficiencies under the guise of "playmaker." Iggy was either 5th or 6th this season in total dunks. He had more dunks than Lebron and Kobe if my memory serves me correctly. How many of those dunks were OVER a defender or AFTER a great individual move? Not many at all. Iggy scores in the open floor, shoots pull up jumpers and the occational LAYUP in traffic, as well as some really good passes. He's a very unique player but his game is more suited for being one of the 2 best players on a team during the 82 game regular season than being the same during the half court offense post season.

[SendEm]

Wade has way more passion than Penny ever had plus he is much better in the clutch(finals MVP). Wade probably just rushed back a little too soon from the injury last year.

In my post I was going to address that same point but Penny at one point was clutch, even after Shaq left. He had some HUGE playoff series.

[tk76]

I think he'll be the 3rd option once we get our PF (who will be 1st) and Thad develops (who will be 2nd). Is he worth 10-12 million a year? Probably not, but honestly, thats what 20/5/5 players get these days.

I would like to see AIG as their #3 scoring option, but I would not be surprised if he is still the best or second best overall player.

Iguodala will continue to improve. He is just starting to tap into his ability on the offensive end. Sure Thad will improve by leaps and bounds over the next few years, but Iguodala also is still improving, and is just starting to add polish to his offensive game. Even last game I was surprised to see him finish with a nice finger roll. I expect him to get more efficient both around the basket and with his pull up jumper.

[LieCheatSteal]

Even without reading the article, of course the Sixers are a sleeper team. In a 7 game series, they could be very tough to beat assuming that they keep their defensive intensity high and run, run and run.

As for Iggy being better than Wade, I would rather have Wade as my franchise player. Sure, Wade's been hurt a lot but much of that is because the Heat played it safe with Wade. Last year, for instance, he came back for the playoffs after sitting out the last 3/4 of the season because the Heat already made the playoffs 3/4s of the way through it. Why play him in the regular season then? This year, he missed the same quarter of the season but there was no point playing him anyways because the Heat dug themselves into way to deep of a hole to make the playoffs. I bet you that if, at any time, the Heat needed him, he would play.

[83SixersRocked]

He also said the Sixers have 30M in cap space. If he does get fired for his mistatements, at least he might find a job in the Bush Administration.