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Stefanski wants Cheeks, Iguodala to be part of Sixers' bright future

"The perfect situation is to get a power forward, but I'm not going to be distraught if we don't get one because we'll add some pieces to do it a different way," Stefanski said.

"I think Andre Iguodala is a good fit for our team," Stefanski said. "Is he the [No.] '1' man on our team? He has to prove that, but I'll take a lot of Andre Iguodalas on our team."

Link: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3385950

Thoughts?

We need our boy sixerfan1976 to come shed some light.

Iguodala is a tremendous asset at reasonable money.

They mention being willing tpo go over the tax if it landed them a star. i wonder if we could get J.O. for a bargain (Cap space and 2 future #1's)

J.O.'s health is a huge issue, as his his 20M contract- but he is still relatively young and when healthy would be a great fit at PF. Sam and JO would make an imposing defensive frontcourt that could switch freely and cover most PF and C's oin the league, rebound and block shots.

J.O. even has a decent post game, jumpshot and BB IQ. If anything, I think Miller and AIG driving could really have two great option by either throwing up the oop for Sam, or the short automatic jumper for J.O.- or just dish off to Young and let him do his thing.

The reason I bring up J.O. is that he expires in 3 years (at 23M), which would make for a nice short term run with Miller(plus 2 yr extension), J.O and Sam- and then all three contracts would expire and we would have lots of cash freed up to reload arounf the rest of our young core. Imagine having 45M in expring contracts in 2010-11. That should be a good bargaining chip to acquire new talent to put next to our currnet 19-24 year old players- who will all be in their prime.

IIRC, next year is O'Neal's last year on his deal acc. to the ESPN trade machine. Edit: 2 more years acc. to nba.com.

What would it take? ... hypothetically:

Green, Smith, Evans, our #1 this year and the Utah pick?

Even then, I am not sure I would want that deal... maybe just for the valuable expiring.

Only a guess, but I bet the last 2 years are player options, which he would be crazy to walk away from at 20M+/yr.

I think they would want Young- and we would laugh. We probably would have to give them 2 of these 3: Carney, Smith, LouW + 11M trade exemption + #1 pick(s) + 4M more in salaries (Ollie S&T for 1yr 4M.)

I also don't know if I make this deal- but its probably is the most likely way this team could try to make a run in the "Miller era." and we would still be in p[retty good shape in 3 years to reload for another run.

JO lost his fire.

Maybe being on a playoff team and a year of good health would bring him back to life. It certainly was the case when VC was traded.

It would be a big risk, but only a short term one as long as we don't give him an extension. I do fear he will demand an extension if he is traded. I'm still not convinced its the right move, but it might be worth the risk if we can avoid an extension.

If we had "a lot of Andre Iguodalas" we would still not be a championship team in my opinion. Here's a starting lineup of players that I believe are Andre Iguodala caliber players at their respective positions.

C Rony Seikaly
PF Charles Smith (Clippers, Knicks)
SF Iggy
SG Kendell Gill
PG Kenny Smith (Kings,Rockets)

JO is too much of a risk with his gimpy knee. That could easily turn into Chris Webber part 2. We need to go after more of a known commodity this summer. We can't afford to strikeout.

Chris Webber was a jumpshooting forward. Jermaine O'Neal just isnt' as powerful in the post is all. He's no longer an all-star in the league. But can we expect 16/8 from him? absouetely. Is that better then what we have? OBV.

THFM wrote:Stefanski wants Cheeks, Iguodala to be part of Sixers' bright future

"The perfect situation is to get a power forward, but I'm not going to be distraught if we don't get one because we'll add some pieces to do it a different way," Stefanski said.

"I think Andre Iguodala is a good fit for our team," Stefanski said. "Is he the [No.] '1' man on our team? He has to prove that, but I'll take a lot of Andre Iguodalas on our team."

Link: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3385950

Thoughts?

Reading Between the Lines:

No.1 man would most likely have the highest salary right?

Iggy is not the no.1 man on our team.

So, no.1 would be either Andre Miller, Daly or even Thad. And non of them is earning what Iggy is asking.

I think Iggy would most likely get a reasonable contract. By reasonable, it would DEFINITELY be his asking price. Or he might take the risk by signing a one year and have his redemption next season.

A lot of Iggys on our team? Doesn't we already have a lot of role players already?

JO would be an intersting idea. Bringing him would all depend on his health and what the trainers thought after giving him a phyiscal.

I imagine Indiana wouldn't require too much back in a trade as well considering his salary.

With the amount of cap space we have, could we send them a trade exemption, along with some players to match the salaries?

jermaine o'neal is injured and overrated. i throw up in my mouth a little bit every time someone on this board mentions getting him.

would i trade willie green for him? sure. would i trade anything more? hell no.

Did anyone notice the uncertainty of ES take on Miller.

Stefanski has yet to talk to Miller, saying he has to concentrate on the current free agents and the draft. Eventually, he plans to sit down with him.
"Andre has to be on board [on] the team, so there are two sides to this thing," Stefanski said.

If he sit down with Miller and he does not want an extension, do we trade him? What if we signed Calderon this offseason and traded Miller?

SouthJersey wrote:Did anyone notice the uncertainty of ES take on Miller.

Stefanski has yet to talk to Miller, saying he has to concentrate on the current free agents and the draft. Eventually, he plans to sit down with him.
"Andre has to be on board [on] the team, so there are two sides to this thing," Stefanski said.

If he sit down with Miller and he does not want an extension, do we trade him? What if we signed Calderon this offseason and traded Miller?

Calderon is a backup PG. He's not a starting caliber PG and even though he came off the bench a great deal for Toronto according to 82games.com he STILL managed to give up more points than he scored on his opponent even though he spent a good portion of his playing time being matched up against the oppositions back up PG. His defense is TERRIBLE. Philadelphia fans will not be able to accept having the worst defensive PG in the NBA starting for them regardless of how great his offensive numbers look on paper after the game.

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Calderon is a backup PG. He's not a starting caliber PG and even though he came off the bench a great deal for Toronto according to 82games.com he STILL managed to give up more points than he scored on his opponent even though he spent a good portion of his playing time being matched up against the oppositions back up PG.

You are funny.

He also had a PER 6.2 points higher than the opposing PG, which let's just say is a lot. Actually slightly higher than Miller.

You never seem to get this, but points are just a part of the overall value that a player brings. Look at Miller last year.

Plus that's just the actual statistics. If you believe in the whole "making other people better offensive players" thing, Calderon (and Miller) fits that to a T.

And I have a hard time seeing how someone who played 30.3 mpg (the average starting PG played a whopping 32 mpg according to espn.com) and started 52 games can play much more time against backups than anyone else.

Calderon is a good PG who can shoot. He would be a great fit next to AIG and Thad. I doubt Calderon will be available.

SouthJersey wrote:Did anyone notice the uncertainty of ES take on Miller.

Stefanski has yet to talk to Miller, saying he has to concentrate on the current free agents and the draft. Eventually, he plans to sit down with him.
"Andre has to be on board [on] the team, so there are two sides to this thing," Stefanski said.

If he sit down with Miller and he does not want an extension, do we trade him? What if we signed Calderon this offseason and traded Miller?

This Miller situation could get interesting. He's really putting the team in a tough spot with his comments. They're a step beyond non-committal. He's been saying there are other places he'd like to play.

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You are funny.

He also had a PER 6.2 points higher than the opposing PG, which let's just say is a lot. Actually slightly higher than Miller.

You never seem to get this, but points are just a part of the overall value that a player brings. Look at Miller last year.

Plus that's just the actual statistics. If you believe in the whole "making other people better offensive players" thing, Calderon (and Miller) fits that to a T.

And I have a hard time seeing how someone who played 30.3 mpg (the average starting PG played a whopping 32 mpg according to espn.com) and started 52 games can play much more time against backups than anyone else.

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It's amazing when looking at the PG you'd compare only his scoring stats. It's also amazing to say he did all that against backup pg's while playing 30 minutes. He started more games (56) than he came off the bench (26), his scoring rate (on a per minute basis) and efficiency actually went up as a starter, and he still maintained a 5/1 assist to turnover ratio as a starter.

If Miller remains non-committal about re-signing, and top flight PF's (RE: Brand) aren't available, Ed might take a very hard look at Calderon.