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D. Jordan not the 3rd guy?
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:52 pm
by Gsraider
There was rampant speculation on this board and Stefanski confirmed that they had their top 3 available at #16. It was pretty much made obvious that Speights and Arthur made up 2 of those 3. I believe one poster suggested that D. Jordan was the 3rd, but Stefanski suggested that their 3rd guy went shortly after they picked. Considering that Jordan went 35th, I can't imagine he was talking about him. Was it Koufos, Ajinca, McGee?
Oh well, it doesn't matter. What matters is who they are targeting on 7/1 assuming that Brand doesn't opt out and another PF does or doesn't present himself. Sixerfan, what's your latest scoop now that the draft's over?:)
Re: D. Jordan not the 3rd guy?
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:56 pm
by Johnny Broad-Street
I guess they'll trade right? Is there a pricey PF someone may want to get rid of? We are a nice trading partner with our flexibility....just wondering if there's a guy who's only SLIGHTLY overpaid that might appeal to us....or a glut somewhere that we can help thin out
Re: D. Jordan not the 3rd guy?
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:00 pm
by dbodner
Stefanski was just on 610 saying that Jordan was one of the guys they were targeting at 16, that they were shocked he was still there in the second round, and were trying very hard to get a pick between 30-36.
Re: D. Jordan not the 3rd guy?
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:11 pm
by SendEm
If The SIxers want him they could still get him, he's only a 2nd round pick. I haven't really seen him play outside of a few minutes during the college season but it's hard for me to believe that he isn't worth 2 future 2nd round picks.
Re: D. Jordan not the 3rd guy?
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:14 pm
by sixerfan1976
I know they wanted Chalmers..so maybe they were trying to get in the early part of the 2nd to get either/or.
Re: D. Jordan not the 3rd guy?
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:48 pm
by The Guilty Party
I heard the same thing as dbods. Stefasnki confirmed that Jordan was one of the the 3 and also confirmed that Arthur was NOT. Glen Macnow asked Stefanski if the 3 he targeted were Speights, McGee, and Arthur and Stefanski said Glen got the last 2 wrong.
The fact that Stefasnki said the team was trying to trade into the 2nd round to get Jordan is bitter sweet but I guess he did the right thing considering the cost of some of those picks (Chicago paid 3 future 2nd rounders, Miami paid 2 second rounders and cash).
Re: D. Jordan not the 3rd guy?
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:53 pm
by Johnny Broad-Street
Yeah...if he thought we had to overpay, I don't think any of those guys were really worth reaching for.
That being said...I'm sure one of them will be hahahaha
Re: D. Jordan not the 3rd guy?
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:10 pm
by Skates
The closest comparable to Speights in the draft, especially the next few picks, would have been JJ Hickson. I guess Ajinca is a possibility as the thrid choice as well.
Re: D. Jordan not the 3rd guy?
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:12 pm
by Johnny Broad-Street
I'm still lamenting Hickson. If not him, Speights made me second most happy
Re: D. Jordan not the 3rd guy?
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:42 pm
by Gsraider
dbodner wrote:Stefanski was just on 610 saying that Jordan was one of the guys they were targeting at 16, that they were shocked he was still there in the second round, and were trying very hard to get a pick between 30-36.
I hadn't heard that yet, but I just assumed that Arthur was the guy he was talking about when he said he was surprised he slid that far. If he was talking about Jordan as the guy who slid and Arthur wasn't in the mix, then who was the other guy they were looking at that was picked shortly after their selection?
Also, I was really rooting for Philly to pick up a late 1st, early 2nd round pick to grab someone like Arthur, Jordan or Chalmers. I wish I could say it was anything more than lip service from Stefanski that he was trying really hard to get another pick in that range though. Wasn't the 27th pick sold for cash considerations? In the second, it's hard to imagine that giving up a future 2nd and cash or two 2nd round picks couldn't have gotten someone interested. It would have been nice to have gotten another PG prospect or backup big man replacement for C. Booth after this year.
Re: D. Jordan not the 3rd guy?
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:52 pm
by dbodner
I wish I could say it was anything more than lip service from Stefanski that he was trying really hard to get another pick in that range though. Wasn't the 27th pick sold for cash considerations? In the second, it's hard to imagine that giving up a future 2nd and cash or two 2nd round picks couldn't have gotten someone interested. It would have been nice to have gotten another PG prospect or backup big man replacement for C. Booth after this year.
The 27th pick was sold for cash BEFORE the draft, before the Sixers knew Jordan would fall.
One of the 2nd round picks traded (32, I believe) was to move into the first round. The other one traded before Jordan was selected was for 3 future 2nd round picks, wasn't it?
I'm sure he tried.
Re: D. Jordan not the 3rd guy?
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:59 pm
by The Guilty Party
dbodner wrote:I wish I could say it was anything more than lip service from Stefanski that he was trying really hard to get another pick in that range though. Wasn't the 27th pick sold for cash considerations? In the second, it's hard to imagine that giving up a future 2nd and cash or two 2nd round picks couldn't have gotten someone interested. It would have been nice to have gotten another PG prospect or backup big man replacement for C. Booth after this year.
The 27th pick was sold for cash BEFORE the draft, before the Sixers knew Jordan would fall.
One of the 2nd round picks traded (32, I believe) was to move into the first round. The other one traded before Jordan was selected was for 3 future 2nd round picks, wasn't it?
I'm sure he tried.
You are correct. Also, Stefanski did say that the team did NOT try to obtain a second 1st round pick since it would have come with a guaranteed salary that would have eaten into the cap space. He said that once Jordan went into the 2nd round that he tried to get him.
Again... just look at what those picks were going for. One went for a first round selection and the other went for THREE future 2nd rounders. That's too steep a price to pay for a player who figures to backup the guy you drafted in the first round.
Re: D. Jordan not the 3rd guy?
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:18 pm
by Sandalf42
I don't understand how hard it'd be to get a pick 30-35. The Blazers and the Twolves both had two picks in that area. Money should have been able to get the deal done.
Re: D. Jordan not the 3rd guy?
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:20 pm
by Gsraider
dbodner wrote:The 27th pick was sold for cash BEFORE the draft, before the Sixers knew Jordan would fall.
One of the 2nd round picks traded (32, I believe) was to move into the first round. The other one traded before Jordan was selected was for 3 future 2nd round picks, wasn't it?
I'm sure he tried.
I stand corrected on the 27th pick in that I thought it occurred during the draft. I also happen to agree with you that Stefanski probably tried. I just question how hard. If you have a guy that is on your board as a first round talent in what you believe is a solid draft, I probably wouldn't blink about giving up multiple 2nd rounders and/or cash to get him. I guess Stefanski just didn't see it that way.
Re: D. Jordan not the 3rd guy?
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:44 pm
by The Guilty Party
Sandalf42 wrote:I don't understand how hard it'd be to get a pick 30-35. The Blazers and the Twolves both had two picks in that area. Money should have been able to get the deal done.
What you think and what is reality are two very different things. I believe a strong case could be made that pick #31-#35 have substantially more value than pick #25-#30. Everyone wants out of the end of the first round and everyone wants in at the start of the 2nd because of the guaranteed contract issue.
Re: D. Jordan not the 3rd guy?
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 7:12 pm
by LongLiveHinkie
No idea what they see in Jordan. His offensive game is zero. Potential I guess and size.
Ed said on WIP that they didn't want another first rounder because it cuts into their cap.
Re: D. Jordan not the 3rd guy?
Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 9:56 pm
by Sixers1983
I think that the dude from france could have been the third guy should they have traded down. I wish it was hibbert because I believe he would have been a solid backup for sammy.
Re: D. Jordan not the 3rd guy?
Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 3:34 am
by 51X3RF4N
Getting closer...