Chad Ford says Sixers might go for Jose Calderon

Mozy-76er Fan · Post #1 » by **Mozy-76er Fan** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 2:48 pm

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/s ... nts-080629

This article says we might go for Jose because Ed loves em.

4. Jose Calderon, Raptors: Calderon played at an All-Star level this past season. When T.J. Ford went down with injuries, he became the leader of the Raptors and proved to be the best true point guard on the free-agent market.

The Raptors say they'll match any offer for Calderon and I believe them -- especially now that they've agreed to a trade with the Pacers that will ship T.J. Ford to Indiana. As it stands now, he's their only point guard. Still, don't be shocked if the Sixers make a big offer to him. They need a long-term replacement for Andre Miller and I hear Sixers GM Ed Stefanski is a big fan.

The article did not list Brand as a restricted Free agent.

The article says Memphis likes Iggy

1. Andre Iguodala, Sixers: Iguodala's decision to turn down a $57 million deal last summer is tough to justify. At the time, the Sixers appeared to be the only team with significant cap room; I'm not sure where he thought his next paycheck would come from. He had a great regular season, but a woeful postseason has put his stock back in check. He's coveted by the Grizzlies, but the chances of them prying him away from Philly look very slim.

Also Chad says we have 12.4 mil cap space not 11 mil as previously stated.

The Sixers could potentially have around $20 million in cap space, if they were willing to waive both Andre Iguodala and Louis Williams to reach that figure. If they decide to keep Iguodala and Williams, both restricted free agents, it looks as though the Sixers will have around $12.4 million in cap space.

HeatSince88 · Post #2 » by **HeatSince88** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:03 pm

The article did not list Brand as a restricted Free agent.

That's because he's not.

- If he opts out, he's an unrestricted free agent.

- If he doesn't opt out, he's under contract to the Clippers and thus not a free agent at all.

Under no scenario can he be a restricted FA.

sixerfan1976 · Post #3 » by **sixerfan1976** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:08 pm

There is no way the Rapts let him go...no way.

IggyTheBEaST · Post #4 » by **IggyTheBEaST** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:08 pm

ford is gone, we have no shot.

Id love it if it happened tho, I think he is highly under-rated.

Sign Jose, Trade Miller and Utahs 1st for a PF, or as a backup plan, a hybrid like Marion.

Jose/Lwill
Iggy/Green
Thaddeous/Carney
Marion/Evans/Speights
Daly/Jason Smith

Marion expires next year to give us more cap again next summer

bebopdeluxe · Post #5 » by **bebopdeluxe** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:10 pm

I don't think that we will be able to pry Calderon from the Raps.

We could, however, probably get Hinrich (and even get them to take some salary off our hands).

Any chance of that, sf1976?

sixerfan1976 · Post #6 » by **sixerfan1976** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:16 pm

bebopdeluxe wrote:I don't think that we will be able to pry Calderon from the Raps.

We could, however, probably get Hinrich (and even get them to take some salary off our hands).

Any chance of that, sf1976?

IFF we moved Miller...we would go get a replacement.....thing is....Hinrich probably moves early in free agency..so you gotta do your Miller trade early to make sure you have a replacement ready.

I think they will look at ways to get a PF without moving Miller first though.

Mozy-76er Fan · Post #7 » by **Mozy-76er Fan** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:44 pm

HeatSince88 wrote:
The article did not list Brand as a restricted Free agent.

That's because he's not.

- If he opts out, he's an unrestricted free agent.

- If he doesn't opt out, he's under contract to the Clippers and thus not a free agent at all.

Under no scenario can he be a restricted FA.

Right - I meant to say as a possible free agent since Brand has not to my knowledge said what he will do yet.

Post #8 » by **The Guilty Party** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:03 pm

I don't see it happening for a lot of reasons but it's fun to see the Sixers tied to a lot of names on the FA market this summer. It's a nice change of pace then us wondering who will get traded with a 2nd round pick for nothing so that we can avoid the tax.

Cru Thik · Post #9 » by **Cru Thik** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:55 pm

The Guilty Party wrote:I don't see it happening for a lot of reasons but it's fun to see the Sixers tied to a lot of names on the FA market this summer. It's a nice change of pace then us wondering who will get traded with a 2nd round pick for nothing so that we can avoid the tax.

Yeah it's nice but it would be better if we had a actual chance to get any of these players. Most of the big names don't seem like real possibilities even though we have cap space. We can be linked to all the names in the book but till we get one or have serious interest from one it means nothing.

bebopdeluxe · Post #10 » by **bebopdeluxe** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 5:19 pm

Well...if Brand does not opt-out, the Sixers better know their options pretty quickly. I would think that Ed has already done a fair amount of legwork about straight trade options with our cap room (and if he hasn't, he should be SHOT...there would be ZERO excuse for not being ABSOLUTELY READY to hit the phones hard at 12:01AM...Brand is the only variable left).

Johnny Broad-Street · Post #11 » by **Johnny Broad-Street** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 5:21 pm

Yeah I have confidence that there is a plan A through Zed for all of this. It's just nerve wracking not to know them! Hahahaa

The Sixer Fixer · Post #12 » by **The Sixer Fixer** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 5:21 pm

Chad Ford, along with an "informed" poster here, also said that Arthur was our #1 or 1a target in the draft. That proved to be wrong by all the comment Ed and Tony made after the draft and obvioulsy by who we picked. Why does anyone take what he has to say serioulsy?

Calderon may be plan 'Z'. Does anyone really think Calderon is near the top of Ed's list on how to use the cap space? Make an offer to Calderon early and you tie up all that cap space and can't go after any other FA's for like 2 weeks while you wait for the Raptors to decide on matching. Meanwhile, you lose out on some other options that are out there via FA or Trade.

I see no chance Ed goes after Calderon until he has exausted every possibility in getting a PF via FA or Trade. That would not happen fast enough to get Calderon IMO. The Raptors aren't going to be in a position where they can F around with Calderon and play games. Expect them to try and get a contract agreed to very early. They commited themselves to Calderon by dealing Ford, there's about a 0 percent chance they let him leave without matching.

psykosacul · Post #13 » by **psykosacul** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 5:21 pm

ive heard people say ford is a moron who just throws out ideas for something to write and things like this make me believe it... as far as i know, if you offer a contract to a player, that money is then considered tied up and you cant go after anyone else.

so why would the sixers offer a big deal to calderon and tie up money in a player that 1) his team says they will match, and 2) they dont even need until the move miller? any money we offer him would be tied up until the raps match, which could be like 15 days * i think.

meanwhile all the other free agents we could actually use and acquire are getting offers and signing with other teams.

you have to be careful who you offer a deal to. its a committment. you cant just offer 10 mill to four different guys and take the one that says yes first

corwin · Post #14 » by **corwin** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 5:33 pm

I'd rather keep MIller than make a run at Calderon. The guy is the right age for the Sixers & is a decent offensive player. However, his defense is the pits. Let him stay in Toronto or trade him to Phoenix where they don't care about the lack of defens.

LieCheatSteal · Post #15 » by **LieCheatSteal** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 5:33 pm

After the JO/Ford trade, I seriously doubt the Raps would allow Calderon to leave. They pretty much gave him the keys to the car.

Calderon's not a good fit for the Sixers anyways. He's a turnstile on defense.

Post #16 » by **Stanford** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 5:54 pm

I think BC is smart enough to know whether or not a team might offer Jose a ridiculous contract. If he had any inkling Jose was going to recieve an offer he wouldnt match, I doubt he would have traded TJ so quickly.

jmon · Post #17 » by **jmon** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:13 pm

psykosacul wrote:ive heard people say ford is a moron who just throws out ideas for something to write and things like this make me believe it... as far as i know, if you offer a contract to a player, that money is then considered tied up and you cant go after anyone else.

so why would the sixers offer a big deal to calderon and tie up money in a player that 1) his team says they will match, and 2) they dont even need until the move miller? any money we offer him would be tied up until the raps match, which could be like 15 days * i think.

meanwhile all the other free agents we could actually use and acquire are getting offers and signing with other teams.

you have to be careful who you offer a deal to. its a committment. you cant just offer 10 mill to four different guys and take the one that says yes first

That is my understanding. I think they have 7 days to match the offer though, not 15.

I, personally, would sign Calderon if given the chance without thought. He immediately fills the hardest position to fill at PG imo.

One previous poster says they should get Marion(and his expiring contract) and that would "create cap space" but they are wrong. Trading Miller for Marion straight up wouldn't affect cap space whatsoever. The amount of contracts expiring has no affect on cap space in and of itself. The amount of salary against the cap is what matters.

CPops57 · Post #18 » by **CPops57** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:04 pm

If we strike out on Brand, going hard after Calderon is a nice idea.

But unfortunately, given the Raptors situation I think you'd have to completely max him out before they'd even think about not retaining him.

bebopdeluxe · Post #19 » by **bebopdeluxe** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:07 pm

I like the scenario where we would get Hinrich (where his contract declines in each of the next 4 years and you may be able to get them to take some salary as part of the deal) over the scenarion where we get Calderon (who plays less-than-average defense and you are guaranteed to have to overpay to get him).

IggyTheBEaST · Post #20 » by **IggyTheBEaST** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:12 pm

hinrich makes too much money tho, and his pitiful regression this year scares me