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Radmonovich for Evans?
Posted: Wed Jul 9, 2008 10:43 pm
by SPuL
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/t ... &te=&cash=I know everyones main knock on you guys right now is your lack of shooters.. Combine that with the fact that signing Brand is going to reduce playing time for Reggie Evans. It seems like swapping Vlade for Evans would be a great fit for both teams.
As you probably know the warriors made an offer for Ronny Turiaf that our FO isn't likely to match.. We'd look at this as a way to replace what Ronny brought while also saving a little luxury tax money (we're already 4 mil over the tax threshold before resigning Sasha)
Vlade could play at the 3 but he can also play the 4 in a crunch due to his height.. That worked out great for us last year but with Bynum back & Odom being moved to SF what we need is a true backup 4 that can play scrappy D..
However I believe Vlade can be a perfect fit on a team full of good defenders & do handle alot of the spacing issues you guys are going to face.. His contract is a little bigger than Reggies but the trade still works.. You guys still wouldn't go near the tax with that extra 2 mil so I don't see it being a problem.
Thoughts?
Re: Radmonovich for Evans?
Posted: Wed Jul 9, 2008 10:46 pm
by IggyTheBEaST
Id rather work a sign and trade with sasha
Re: Radmonovich for Evans?
Posted: Wed Jul 9, 2008 10:50 pm
by Jajwanda
That can be done as well however I don't think that helps you as much.
Radmanovic is a very effective player if played correctly (not on an island against Paul Pierce).
Re: Radmonovich for Evans?
Posted: Wed Jul 9, 2008 10:54 pm
by Mozy-76er Fan
I'd consider that trade, but does the trade machine consider the sixers recent moves (sign Brand, trade Carney, and Booth) plus the new salary cap?
EDIT: I just checked the Trade Machine does not consider our recent moves.
Re: Radmonovich for Evans?
Posted: Wed Jul 9, 2008 10:59 pm
by LongLiveHinkie
I'd consider it. I said a yesterday that Evans would really help a western conference contender with his toughness and rebounding. Not sure I'd want Radman though. Not a big fan. I like Evans' toughness off the bench. I'd consider it though.
Re: Radmonovich for Evans?
Posted: Wed Jul 9, 2008 11:10 pm
by CPops57
Interesting idea that attempts to fit both teams' needs.
For now, I'd lean against it until I explored all other FA and trade options because I have some issues with Radmanovic's game. Putting him in a position to play 15 - 25mpg for a team isn't something that should be approached lightly.
Re: Radmonovich for Evans?
Posted: Wed Jul 9, 2008 11:40 pm
by SPuL
Wow I proposed a deal to another teams fans that wasn't Kobe for their 4th best player & didn't get flamed.
Good to see some classy fans out there.. You guys deserve whatever EB can lead you to.
As far as a sign & trade for Sasha I'm not too sure how I'd feel about that.. We really have no other backup for Kobe other than Coby Karl or the Crawford kid we drafted.. Can't see them letting Sasha go without filling that void also.
Rad is a little easier to let go of with Ariza/Walton & them planning to *gasp* start Odom at SF this season.
I'll check back later to see what more of you think
Re: Radmonovich for Evans?
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:10 am
by kanga
1-Brand, 2-Miller, 3-Iguodala, 4-Young, 5-Dalembert, 6-Williams, 7-Evans (maybe). Definitely not 4th best on the team.
Seeing as there's no good snowboarding around Philly, I'd consider Radmanovic for Evans, although our real need is an efficient SG, not SF/PF.
Re: Radmonovich for Evans?
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:20 am
by is1531
SPuL wrote:http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=1016~1828&teams=20~13&te=&cash=
I know everyones main knock on you guys right now is your lack of shooters.. Combine that with the fact that signing Brand is going to reduce playing time for Reggie Evans. It seems like swapping Vlade for Evans would be a great fit for both teams.
As you probably know the warriors made an offer for Ronny Turiaf that our FO isn't likely to match.. We'd look at this as a way to replace what Ronny brought while also saving a little luxury tax money (we're already 4 mil over the tax threshold before resigning Sasha)
Vlade could play at the 3 but he can also play the 4 in a crunch due to his height.. That worked out great for us last year but with Bynum back & Odom being moved to SF what we need is a true backup 4 that can play scrappy D..
However I believe Vlade can be a perfect fit on a team full of good defenders & do handle alot of the spacing issues you guys are going to face.. His contract is a little bigger than Reggies but the trade still works.. You guys still wouldn't go near the tax with that extra 2 mil so I don't see it being a problem.
Thoughts?
It's amazing where Vladi's game has gone in the last 3 years. Before that, he was one of Seattle's best players. I want Evans out of here, but I would not make that trade if I was the 76ers.
Re: Radmonovich for Evans?
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:23 am
by sixers_610
I would rather not trade Evans. The amount of damage he does on the boards in few minutes is huge.
Re: Radmonovich for Evans?
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 3:44 am
by Nofx8881
I would rather not trade Evans as well, especially for Radmanovic. That's great that he can hit the 3, but he's completely useless otherwise. I don't know that the points he would score on the court would offset the points that would be given up to the opposing team. I mean the guy is 6'10 and appears to be pretty ripped and yet he can't rebound, can't block, probably can't play any defense. Eh. Plus he'd be a PF or a completely out of place and exposed SF. I'd rather he not take up 10-12 minutes of Brand/Speights/Smith's time and I'd certainly rather he not get manhandled by quick 3's.
I think the best thing to do is try to sign (or trade for, whatever) a 3 point shooting SG/SF.
Re: Radmonovich for Evans?
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:04 pm
by LieCheatSteal
I would do this trade. Speights will take Evans' minutes. He may not replace Evans' hustle but he needs minutes. Him and Jason Smith. Radmonovich will give this team excellent long range shooting off the bench at the three. I'm not sure if you can get his shooting stroke in the FA market for what could be the league minimum once Iggy and Louis is signed.
Re: Radmonovich for Evans?
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:22 pm
by The Guilty Party
Considering that there are rumors flying around about an Artest/Thomas for Odom deal possibly happening, I doubt that they'll want Evans.
I just don't see too many teams that will want Evans for 3 years/$15MIL. Maybe Charlotte... maybe Orlando but the list is short.
Re: Radmonovich for Evans?
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:40 pm
by The Sixer Fixer
As a fall back, I would probably do this deal. Assuming Iguodala starts at the 2, this team needs another guy who can play SF (we really have no backup right now). The fact that Radmanovic can shoot the 3 pretty well (though inconsistent) helps too. Factor in that he can play some backup minutes at PF when we go small and it seems like a decent fit.
People say all Radman can do it shoot the 3, but lets be real, we are talking about Reggie Evans and all he can do is rebound. Both these guys are very flawed players so it seems like a good match.
Re: Radmonovich for Evans?
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:45 pm
by phiphan
Radman is a 3/4. We need more of a 2.
Re: Radmonovich for Evans?
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 3:19 pm
by The Sixer Fixer
phiphan wrote:Radman is a 3/4. We need more of a 2.
Why do you say that? As this team is currently structured, we have Thad at the 3 and Andre at the 2. Having said that, we have no one on the bench who cam play SF while we have both Lou and Willie who can backup at SG. This team needs a backup SF way more than a backup SG imo.
I know Andre may get some time at SF, but you have to have someone else who can play that spot off the bench. Granted we can sign a vert for the min to backup SF, but I still see a bigger need for a SF. The need is 3 pt shooting and I don't care if it comes by way of SF, SG or PG. Since Vlad is a SF who can shoot it, it's a good fit imo.
Re: Radmonovich for Evans?
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 3:49 pm
by phiphan
Andre is a better player at the 3 than at the 2. Thad will likely spend time at both the 3/4 (he spent the vast majority of his time at the 4 last season -- I think people are penning him in a bit too early as the starting 3.) I believe Andre will get more than "some time" at SF. The 3 is well-covered by those two.
When we go smaller, WG (who stinks) and Lou (who spent very little to no time as a 2 last season), are not good options, imo.
For those reasons, I'd rather have a 2/3 than a 3/4.
Here's how I'd like to see the DC:
PG: Andre Miller / Lou Williams / Kevin Ollie (expected to resign)
SG: Andre Iguodala / *shooter* / WG
SF: Thaddeus Young / Andre Iguodala / *shooter*
PF: Elton Brand / Thaddeus Young / Reggie Evans
C: Sam Dalembert / Jason Smith (possibly EB if we go small) / Reggie Evans or EB
We'd have to give up something to get a better player than WG, but I won't go into trades.
Re: Radmonovich for Evans?
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:55 pm
by ckchen
Anyone who watched the Finals should realize that Vlad Rad just has no idea how to play within a system - the dude was chucking unnecessary 3s, playing zero defense (or getting schooled by Paul Pierce) same diff, and never seemed like he knew where he was supposed to be or what he was supposed to be doing on the court.
That coupled with the fact that he's even a bigger salary cap albatross that Reggie Evans is because his deal is even bigger, to me means no go.
At least Evans is productive, and frankly, is more suited to a role off the bench. Also, just because you're over the cap means that you should throw extra money out. That $1-2M/yr difference puts you that much closer to the luxury cap, and also makes someone that much harder to trade.
Yes, VR can hit 3s. So can a lot of other people at a much lower cost/pricetag, who might even be able to try on defense (this guy makes Korver look respectable on D).
Re: Radmonovich for Evans?
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:21 pm
by carltong23
Eventually, we need to get rid of Evans because face it, almost 5 mil a year for a one dimensional rebounder is a little too much. Especially now that we have Smith, Speights, and Brand that can all get minutes at the 4. But I wouldnt trade for Vlade simply because we can get his same production by signing a veteran SF for the minimum. Id rather us take a look at unrestricted free agents like Jarvis Hayes, Maurice Evans, C.J. Miles, Antoine Wright, Kareem Rush, Bostjan Nachbar, Yakouba Diawara, Matt Barnes and Devean George. Or maybe even Brent Barry, Micheal Finley, or Bonzi Wells, but Id prefer one of the younger veterans so that they cant grow with our young team. As long as they can shoot consistently from three point range and play defense with some athletecism, thats who we should go after.
Re: Radmonovich for Evans?
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:21 pm
by youngcrev
I like the fit, but Vlad's contract is pretty ugly considering his production. If Willie Green could be squeezed into the deal, I'd be fine with it.