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How does Brand affect player stats next season? Predictions?

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:10 am
by eyeatoma
Now that we have a legitimate post threat that can draw the double team, its going to open up the lanes for players like Iguodala, Lou Will, as well as Thad. We're probably going to be shooting more efficiently, and less shots will be going around, except for maybe Thad...The maturation of his game would demand that he got the ball more, with his potential to be a terror on offense.

I see Miller averaging less points but more assists, and will hopefully have more in the tank in the latter stages of the season/playoffs seeing that he won't be required to take so many shots.

Dalembert is questionable...On one hand, he'll be able to defend better as he'll be matching up with players at his position, instead of defending low post monsters like Stoudemire/Boozer/Al Jefferson/Duncan (although he did do quite a good job on Duncan last year)...Offensively though, I'm not sure he'll average more ppg seeing that there will be less shots available for everyone, hence he won't be required to take those god awful 15 foot jumpers...

As long as Speights can average above 5 pts/4rebounds a game I would be pretty pleased, anything less, and I would say its a little disappointing, I'm sure some people wouldn't agree with this seeing how the kid is so raw. But his performance so far in the summer league gives me some hope...If he puts it all together, he could be an 18/10 player 3-4 years down the line, when Brand begins his decline...

Overall these are the stats I predict for the team in 2008/09

Dalembert 7.5/11.5/2.5 52%fg
Brand 20.7/10.3/2 51%fg
Young 14/5.6/2 assists 50%fg
Iguodala 19/5.4/6.2 47%fg
Miller 12.3/4/9.3 47%fg
Williams 14/3.4/5 45%fg
Green 7/3/3 46%fg [EDIT] (had to insert Willaaay...somewhat conveniently forgot about him)
Evans 1.7/6.5 46%fg
Smith 3.5/2 46%fg
Speights 5/4 52%fg
3 pt specialist 3.5ppg
Jamont Gordon 3ppg

Overall scoring 110.7 ppg...I believe the starting lineup can definitely average this many ppg give or take a few, but I'm not so sure about Gordon (if we sign him) Smith and Speights. Louis Williams seems like he's ready to break out and play a Barbosa type role for us...

Re: How does Brand affect player stats next season? Predictions?

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:24 am
by Sixersftw
I'm down with just about everything your selling before you get to the stats. You can't erase Willie. As much as you want to.

Re: How does Brand affect player stats next season? Predictions?

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:31 am
by eyeatoma
Sixersftw wrote:I'm down with just about everything your selling before you get to the stats. You can't erase Willie. As much as you want to.



HAhahahaha, omg, Willie completely slipped my mind...Team looks nice without him though doesn't it? Hmmm...wishful thinking... :( I know I missed someone.

Re: How does Brand affect player stats next season? Predictions?

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:38 am
by Young_Star11
PG Dre - 12/4/8
SG AI2 - 20/5/6
SF Thad - 12/6/2
PF Brand - 20/10/2
C Daly - 10/10/2

Lou 11/2/3

Re: How does Brand affect player stats next season? Predictions?

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:40 am
by LongLiveHinkie
I'm going to wait a bit to post averages until I see what develops in the summer leagues and preseason and stuff.

But before the season I'm going to do a really long write up about predictions, expectations, breakdowns, etc. Keep an eye out for it.

Re: How does Brand affect player stats next season? Predictions?

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:54 am
by eyeatoma
Young_Star11 wrote:PG Dre - 12/4/8
SG AI2 - 20/5/6
SF Thad - 12/6/2
PF Brand - 20/10/2
C Daly - 10/10/2

Lou 11/2/3


Lou avergaged 11ppg last year, he's bound to have a more productive season. Thad should be able to score more than 12 ppg if he's able to get 2-3 plays called for him a game.

Re: How does Brand affect player stats next season? Predictions?

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:12 am
by Tension
PG:Dre 10/4/9
SG:Dala 17/5/6.5
SF: Thad 12/5/2
PF: Brand 19/9/2 bpg (I think the mileage can possibly take a toll on him, but i'll take eyetoma's word for it on the 2 bpg :D)
C: Dalembert 11/11/2.5 bpg

Bench:
Speights: 6/4/1
Willie: 8/2/1
Lou: 11/2/5
Smith: 3/4/1
Evans: 2/7/1

Re: How does Brand affect player stats next season? Predictions?

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:49 am
by eyeatoma
Tension wrote:PG:Dre 13/4/9
SG:Dala 18/5/6.5
SF: Thad 14/5/2
PF: Brand 23/9/1 bpg
C: Dalembert 14/11/2 bpg

Bench:
Speights: 8/4/1
Willie: 9/2/1
Lou: 11/2/5
Smith: 4/4/1
Evans: 3.5/7/1
Jamont:2/1/1 (just don't see him getting alot of playing time with this amount of depth)


You got the entire team averaging 119 ppg??? That good for 1st in the NBA lol...

Lou will probably average 13-14 ppg, he averaged 11 last year, and is bound to get better just by natural improvement.

1 bpg for Brand makes absolutely no sense...The guy has never averaged less than 1.6 in his career, every other season has been 2 or above except for last season, where he averaged 1.9 in 8 games...I'd put Brand down for 2bpg...

Re: How does Brand affect player stats next season? Predictions?

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:57 am
by Tension
rofl, I didn't really get much math going on for me :D, kinda went for ceiling stats I guess xD, time to get some editing done

Lou will get less PT this year I think, so his stats should stay around the same

Re: How does Brand affect player stats next season? Predictions?

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:02 am
by ITK9
miller 14/3/8
iggy 19/5/6
thad 13/6/2
brand 20/10/2/2 blocks
sammy 8/10/2 blocks

Re: How does Brand affect player stats next season? Predictions?

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:30 am
by eyeatoma
ITK9 wrote:miller 14/3/8
iggy 19/5/6
thad 13/6/2
brand 20/10/2/2 blocks
sammy 8/10/2 blocks


What are your predictions for Lou Will, Speights, and Green?

Re: How does Brand affect player stats next season? Predictions?

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:52 am
by Brand 76
I have just simulated the entire season in EA'sNBA live 08 and NBA 08 on the PS3 a few times over and Brand averaged over 21 points and 8.6 rebs with over 2 blocks in all simed season games....FYI

My opinion:

Dal 9.5ppg 10.5rebs 2+blks
Brand 23.5ppg 9.8rebs 2.1 blks 2.2 asts
Thad 15.5ppg 6.2rebs 1 blks 1 asts 2 stl
Dala 18.8 5.5rebs 5.5ast 2stl
AndreM 13.5pts 3rebs 7.9ast

Lou 14.2pts 2.9rebs 1.5stls 4.2ast
Marreese 7.5pts 5.9rebs 1blk

Re: How does Brand affect player stats next season? Predictions?

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:07 am
by eyeatoma
Brand 76 wrote:I have just simulated the entire season in EA'sNBA live 08 and NBA 08 on the PS3 a few times over and Brand averaged over 21 points and 8.6 rebs with over 2 blocks in all simed season games....FYI

My opinion:

Dal 9.5ppg 10.5rebs 2+blks
Brand 23.5ppg 9.8rebs 2.1 blks 2.2 asts
Thad 15.5ppg 6.2rebs 1 blks 1 asts 2 stl
Dala 18.8 5.5rebs 5.5ast 2stl
AndreM 13.5pts 3rebs 7.9ast

Lou 14.2pts 2.9rebs 1.5stls 4.2ast
Marreese 7.5pts 5.9rebs 1blk


LOL, I think you need to tone down your expectations...You have 7 players averaging 102 points in total, but you're still missing Green, Smith, Evans, probably Jamont Gordon, as well as a specialist 3 pt shooter...

Even though Brand will have an easier time scoring on the thinner front courts in the East, I highly doubt he'll average 23.5 ppg, it would be fantastic if he did, but I just don't see it. Iguodala had the same amount of assists last year. The year before he averaged 6 assists per game, and that was with Joe Smith at the PG. Igoudala should be able to break the 6 assists barrier once again with Brand in the post. Andre Miller average about 8-9 assists with the Denver Nuggets. Granted they have a lot more 3 point shooters, but with the maturing games of Igoudala/Williams/Thad, he should be able to get 8.5-9 apg...I'm not sure Thad has the ability to average a block a game when he averaged 0.1 bpg last year. Thats an exponential increase, which is pretty much unheard of...

Re: How does Brand affect player stats next season? Predictions?

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:22 am
by ITK9
eyeatoma wrote:
ITK9 wrote:miller 14/3/8
iggy 19/5/6
thad 13/6/2
brand 20/10/2/2 blocks
sammy 8/10/2 blocks


What are your predictions for Lou Will, Speights, and Green?


lou 12/2/4
green 10/3/2
speights 7/4/1block
jason smith 6/4/1block
reggie evans 3/6

Re: How does Brand affect player stats next season? Predictions?

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:27 am
by underpressure
The total ppg could rise above 110 or so, depending on the number of injuries. If somebody hits 120 ppg as a prediction, it is not necessarily wrong. Since the Sixers players are not injury prone, I will keep my numbers rather low.

I would go with:
Miller - 13/4/8.5
Iguodala - 21/5/6
Young - 13.5/4/1.5 (could have higher number at the expense of all other players)
Brand - 22/10/2
Dalembert - 9.5/10/0.5/2

LW 12.5/2.5/3.5

Re: How does Brand affect player stats next season? Predictions?

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:31 am
by eyeatoma
underpressure wrote:The total ppg could rise above 110 or so, depending on the number of injuries. If somebody hits 120 ppg as a prediction, it is not necessarily wrong. Since the Sixers players are not injury prone, I will keep my numbers rather low.

I would go with:
Miller - 13/4/8.5
Iguodala - 21/5/6
Young - 13.5/4/1.5 (could have higher number at the expense of all other players)
Brand - 22/10/2
Dalembert - 9.5/10/0.5/2

LW 12.5/2.5/3.5


I'm not saying they're wrong its just hard to fathom, seeing that we're the poorest 3 point shooting team in the league. We would already be a high scoring team, but to be truly elite your team needs to be solid behind the arc. I'm pretty sure that the top 5 scoring teams in the league have a bevy of long range shooters to spread the defense.

Re: How does Brand affect player stats next season? Predictions?

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:33 am
by eyeatoma
ITK9 wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
ITK9 wrote:miller 14/3/8
iggy 19/5/6
thad 13/6/2
brand 20/10/2/2 blocks
sammy 8/10/2 blocks


What are your predictions for Lou Will, Speights, and Green?


lou 12/2/4
green 10/3/2
speights 7/4/1block
jason smith 6/4/1block
reggie evans 3/6


Sounds about right, although I don't think Green will get enough minutes to get 10 ppg, and Lou should be able to improve on his output last year by more than 1 ppg...

Re: How does Brand affect player stats next season? Predictions?

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:36 am
by eyeatoma
underpressure wrote:The total ppg could rise above 110 or so, depending on the number of injuries. If somebody hits 120 ppg as a prediction, it is not necessarily wrong. Since the Sixers players are not injury prone, I will keep my numbers rather low.

I would go with:
Miller - 13/4/8.5
Iguodala - 21/5/6
Young - 13.5/4/1.5 (could have higher number at the expense of all other players)
Brand - 22/10/2
Dalembert - 9.5/10/0.5/2

LW 12.5/2.5/3.5


Thad should be able to average more than 4 rpg, seeing that he had 4.8 last year. And whats with Dalembert averaging .5 apg, but no contribution from Elton Brand lol? I think Brand averaged 4apg in one year...

Re: How does Brand affect player stats next season? Predictions?

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:51 am
by underpressure
eyeatoma wrote:
underpressure wrote:The total ppg could rise above 110 or so, depending on the number of injuries. If somebody hits 120 ppg as a prediction, it is not necessarily wrong. Since the Sixers players are not injury prone, I will keep my numbers rather low.

I would go with:
Miller - 13/4/8.5
Iguodala - 21/5/6
Young - 13.5/4/1.5 (could have higher number at the expense of all other players)
Brand - 22/10/2
Dalembert - 9.5/10/0.5/2

LW 12.5/2.5/3.5


Thad should be able to average more than 4 rpg, seeing that he had 4.8 last year. And whats with Dalembert averaging .5 apg, but no contribution from Elton Brand lol? I think Brand averaged 4apg in one year...

I think 4 rpg are about right since Thad will play his bulk of playing time at SF. And he won't grab that many rebounds against Brand, Sammy D and Evans off the bench. Brand has never averaged more than 3.2 apg but still, his numbers are still well above my previous prediction. I would now go with 2.8 apg.

Re: How does Brand affect player stats next season? Predictions?

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 12:10 pm
by eyeatoma
underpressure wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
underpressure wrote:The total ppg could rise above 110 or so, depending on the number of injuries. If somebody hits 120 ppg as a prediction, it is not necessarily wrong. Since the Sixers players are not injury prone, I will keep my numbers rather low.

I would go with:
Miller - 13/4/8.5
Iguodala - 21/5/6
Young - 13.5/4/1.5 (could have higher number at the expense of all other players)
Brand - 22/10/2
Dalembert - 9.5/10/0.5/2

LW 12.5/2.5/3.5


Thad should be able to average more than 4 rpg, seeing that he had 4.8 last year. And whats with Dalembert averaging .5 apg, but no contribution from Elton Brand lol? I think Brand averaged 4apg in one year...

I think 4 rpg are about right since Thad will play his bulk of playing time at SF. And he won't grab that many rebounds against Brand, Sammy D and Evans off the bench. Brand has never averaged more than 3.2 apg but still, his numbers are still well above my previous prediction. I would now go with 2.8 apg.


Hmmm, I guess the 4apg I saw next to Brand's name was during the Clippers storied playoff run a few years ago.

I'm still not sure I agree with you about Young. Evans and Sammy were no slouches last year, yet Young was still able to snatch 4.8. I know, he was playing the majority of his minutes at PF. But this season Evans will probably see a significant decrease in minutes. Young is an above average rebounder for his position, and has Shawn Marionesque potential when it comes to rebounding, if he works at it...Anything less than 5 rpg, and I'll be pretty disappointed...But I guess we shall see once the new season rolls around. I can't remember being this excited about Sixers basketball...The only time I felt this pumped up was during the 01 run and a couple years after that...