To sign or To trade Andre Miller

[Padawan]

What do you guys think? The team only really needs another point guard or a fabulous shooter in return if they do trade the pass first guard. If he resigns what's the price tag?
And for how long? 2/3 years maybe?

I guess they have a year to decide but i would prefer to see a new contract come this year if that's the decision anyway.

[geiger]

There is a 7 page long Andre Miller thread below already. Presuming we will start a new one, the question is who would want him and what would they give us for him. The list of teams that would be even remotely interested in him is a pretty short one.

[ITK9]

I would be all for extending his contract if he accepts 28 mil/ 3 years.

[Dedicated_76ers_fan]

I'm praying you don't become the GM of the 76ers. No offense. 28 Mil over 3 years? So your paying Miller his average salary of 9 Mill for 3 MORE years? For a player likely to decline? 1 or 2 years might be okay if we decide that there aren't any good PG'S on the market and Lou isn't ready or won't ever be ready. But 3 years, especially at 9 Million is one of those crippling contracts.

[IggyTheBEaST]

3 years MAX. and no way id give him more than Lwill. If he wants more, he can pack his bags

[monks]

3 years is fine because even though he's likely to decline, a point guard like him who doesn't rely on athleticism and instead goes on court sense, basketball IQ and strength (ie posting up smaller guards) won't drop out too much. If he's going to be a backup to Lou or someone else, though, I'd give him 6 or 7 mil per year and leave it at that.

Lou's contract was a steal so throwing an extra million or two Miller's way to get him to be a steady hand off the bench couldn't hurt if there were no other feasible options.

[lastdodo]

I would be all for extending his contract if he accepts 28 mil/ 3 years.

You realize that would be a paycut, right? He had a great season least year and is only 32. The only way he'd even consider that offer is if he was in a tragic accident involving a clown, a chainsaw, and trained circus fleas. $50m/3 years is about as low as you are gonna get without his agent rupturing something from laughing so hard. He will be looking for a 5-6 year deal anyway, and has tons of leverage.

[geiger]

Only 32? For a point guard? That's young now? He'll be 33 this season. Who was the last PG who still performed at top level after turning 35? Jason Kidd declined so bad last season he was a liability, and he's twice the player Miller ever was. Gary Payton was a horror show at 35. There is this myth that somehow, because Miller doesn't rely on quickness, he won't decline. History shows otherwise for guys of his quality and his age. One more year, fine. 3 and at $9 million a season? Or paying him $7 million to be a back up PG? That just doesn't make any business sense.

[ITK9]

I'm praying you don't become the GM of the 76ers. No offense. 28 Mil over 3 years? So your paying Miller his average salary of 9 Mill for 3 MORE years? For a player likely to decline? 1 or 2 years might be okay if we decide that there aren't any good PG'S on the market and Lou isn't ready or won't ever be ready. But 3 years, especially at 9 Million is one of those crippling contracts.

as usual, you have no ideea what you are talking.jason kidd,36, is paid 20 mil and is not as good as miller.miller's game is not based on speed or quickness so i really think he will play another 3 years at almost the same level

[Dedicated_76ers_fan]

So, when you sign this lengthy contact of 9.5 million, and he is declining I'll be the first to say "I told you so"

[83SixersRocked]

Signing him would be my preference. Not for a huge sum, and not for more than three years as an absolute max, but there's not much else out there right now. We've committed big $ to Brand and with Iguodala likely to follow. It's the Sixers' next tough decision...and I have fear on this one. It could make or break them.

[freshie2]

Tough call...I'm for a deal now while he probably has some value, but you need to get a decent replacement in exchange. He has value at the deadline, but the Sixers should be in contention mode at that point, and dealing your PG then makes no sense.

[Dedicated_76ers_fan]

Unless Lou Will develops into the starter. And if that happens, you can use his 10M expiring to get perhaps an all-star.

[UptownPhilly]

I would love to see him traded, only if we receive a player that can be considered a core piece.

If not, resign him for a reasonable amount of money next season(no more than $7mil per season) or let him expire.

[TheAnalyst]

I say we keep him. What good can we get from parting ways? He's a top ten PG and a key factor to our success. I don't think we can find a replacement of his caliber either. He shouldn't decline too much because of his style of play. He doesn't rely on athleticism, just his knowledge of the game and size. And he's durable as he has only missed 3 games in his career. I think he'll be a serviceable point till the day he retires. And I hope he is still with us at that time.

[geiger]

Kidd for the record was 35 last season when he sucked and he is also a guy who doesn't rely on athleticism and is also twice the player Miller ever was. That's just the reality of what happens to PGs once they hit that 34, 35, 36 age - they decline. There are a few guys who still play at a fairly high level, but those are typically who are super star players and decline to the point of being decent starters.

[underpressure]

Since we would not obtain equal value for Miller, I am all for signing Miller. I would likely give him a two-year extension so that his deal expires at the same time with Dalembert's, Green's and Evans'. That ensures us some flexibility in three years.

[blazehound]

This all assumes that miller actually wants to stick around in philly...

[geiger]

And that's the biggest if of all. So far, we've seen no indication that he does and he has repeatedly stated in the past that he is not a fan of the East Coast. His family is all on the West Coast and he has not sold his house in Denver or bought one in the Philly area. The question is whether he would want to stay here on a 2 year deal for about $7 to $8 million a season or would he reather take that same deal or less to go play out West? We saw what happened with Elton Brand.

Sixers overpaid Iguodala just to avoid him becoming an unrestricted free agent even though no one was even remotely likely to beat what we paid him. They know that one can easily be on the other side of a Carolos Boozer or Elton Brand deal. Why wouldn't they move Miller when his value is highest and while we can still get something for him.

And we can't afford to overpay him as well as Iguodala. We'll be in the luxury tax territory and being that this team isn't good enough to win a title without additional help, it would be plain stupid to do so.

So we either try to offer him a two year extension at reasonable money now, or we trade him.

[underpressure]

This all assumes that miller actually wants to stick around in philly...

I don't think Miller would be satisfied with a deal ranging around the midlevel exception. Sacramento may free up space but there are a rather unattractive destination and I am sure they are not interested in Miller. If Miller does not get a MID offer by the Lakers, I am sure he will re-sign in Philly. We have the bird rights, we have all cards in our hands. And we may have the best shot going deep into the playoffs.