Transfer Thread 24/25

[kdawg32086]

All I can say is they're clearly going for it. Full send this summer to try to finally win the league.

Out: Sterling, Neto, Jorginho, Tierney, Partey, Tomiyasu,with Zinchenko expected to be sold.

In: Zubimendi, Kepa, Norgaard (soon to be announced), Gyokeres (soon to be announced, and making offers for Madueke and Eze. Lewis-Skelly and Nwaneri getting spots with the first team.

It's definitely an improvement over last season and a much deeper team if it finishes like it looks above, but Liverpool is getting better too so we will see how this goes.

No doubt about the underlined.

It will be interesting to see what happens to Arteta if Arsenal ends the season without a trophy. At some point, the finger has to point to him.

If Madueke is brought in, likely cover for both Saka and Martinelli, would Eze still be a target? I struggle to think he would make the move from Crystal Palace to simply be Ødegaard's backup.

And where would that leave Nwaneri? It's not as if Madueke or Saka are aging...

Now that Kroenke has won a title with his American clubs, now I guess it's time to try to win one in England.

My guess would be that Eze would take Martinelli's starting spot on the left. Madueke is Saka's backup. Saka has been playing heavy minutes, so this could actually be a big help. Nwaneri slides in as Odegaard's backup. Gotta think Trossard gets sold off in that scenario. Reiss Nelson too.

Maybe it looks like this:

LW: S: RW:
Eze Gyokeres Saka
Martinelli Havertz Madueke
Trossard Jesus

LM: DM: RM:
Rice Zubimendi Odegaard
Merino Norgaard Nwaneri

[The_Brecht]

I understand the link to Madueke because we need an extra winger, but paying 40 or 50 million would be stupid money.
Chelsea payed around 30 million and apparently he's not wanted at the club anymore, so his value should be dropping instead of rising.

I just want Eze, Norgaard and Gyokeres as soon as possible.

[magik9113]

Retegui to Saudi Arabia. Another absolute masterclass by Atalanta.
but I’m judging the heck out of the player.

Perhaps he already can see that Italy won’t make the World Cup, so why wait to cash in?

[Baseline81]

I understand the link to Madueke because we need an extra winger, but paying 40 or 50 million would be stupid money.
Chelsea payed around 30 million and apparently he's not wanted at the club anymore, so his value should be dropping instead of rising.

I tried bringing this up on the previous page, however, no one wanted to discuss.

I don't know about his value dropping, but it certainly shouldn't be rising, and, more importantly, to the level's we are hearing about.

But, to Chelsea's credit, they continue to rake Arsenal over the coals.

EDIT: Congrats, Arsenal fans, you've successfully replaced Chelsea's Sterling with Chelsea's Madueke.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DLuGmAXTta0/

[stormi]

Read on Twitter

I do like me some MGW, but he isn't better than Kulusevski, and probably around the same level as Maddison

LW - Tel, Son, Solomon?, Gil?, Moore
ST - Solanke, Richarlison, Scarlett
RW - Yang, Johnson, Kudus, Odobert
10 - Maddison, Kulusevski, MGW

Big sale or two or three needed.

edit:

Read on Twitter

Things move quick.

The era of the cannibalizing of the 'other 14' by the trad big six might be back.

[El Turco]

Chess match between Napoli and Gala is rather amusing. Now there are reports that Gala will make an offer for Nunez just because Napoli is not giving any flexibility on Osi's payment terms.

[magik9113]

Chess match between Napoli and Gala is rather amusing. Now there are reports that Gala will make an offer for Nunez just because Napoli is not giving any flexibility on Osi's payment terms.

Hopefully he just demands a transfer to Juve, am I right?

[El Turco]

Chess match between Napoli and Gala is rather amusing. Now there are reports that Gala will make an offer for Nunez just because Napoli is not giving any flexibility on Osi's payment terms.

Hopefully he just demands a transfer to Juve, am I right?

Juve is as good an option as any but I am guessing Napoli doesn't prefer to do business with Juve. And probably no european team can match Gala's contract offer.

Other teams could get involved longer this drags as Napoli has to sell at all cost and might lower the conditions, but I like to believe Osi will only accept Gala just because he was crazy enough to reject a 45m+ offer from Al Hilal to stay at Gala

[kdawg32086]

Looks like Madueke is done. And sounds like Trossard is headed to Turkey, to play for Fenerbahce.

[The_Brecht]

I understand the link to Madueke because we need an extra winger, but paying 40 or 50 million would be stupid money.
Chelsea payed around 30 million and apparently he's not wanted at the club anymore, so his value should be dropping instead of rising.

I tried bringing this up on the previous page, however, no one wanted to discuss.

I don't know about his value dropping, but it certainly shouldn't be rising, and, more importantly, to the level's we are hearing about.

But, to Chelsea's credit, they continue to rake Arsenal over the coals.

EDIT: Congrats, Arsenal fans, you've successfully replaced Chelsea's Sterling with Chelsea's Madueke.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DLuGmAXTta0/

Tbf, the Havertz deal is still a great deal for both parties.
I don't understand why he's not rated. The work he does on the pitch gives Saka so much freedom to excell.
He also has an 50% goal/assist to games ratio at Arsenal, which is just very good.

[magik9113]

Chess match between Napoli and Gala is rather amusing. Now there are reports that Gala will make an offer for Nunez just because Napoli is not giving any flexibility on Osi's payment terms.

Hopefully he just demands a transfer to Juve, am I right?

Juve is as good an option as any but I am guessing Napoli doesn't prefer to do business with Juve. And probably no european team can match Gala's contract offer.

Other teams could get involved longer this drags as Napoli has to sell at all cost and might lower the conditions, but I like to believe Osi will only accept Gala just because he was crazy enough to reject a 45m+ offer from Al Hilal to stay at Gala

I still cannot understand why the giant clubs seem to have no interest in this guy. Sure it’s a huge fee they are asking but worth it in my opinion.
African bias perhaps? If only he were “French”…

[Baseline81]

Tbf, the Havertz deal is still a great deal for both parties.
I don't understand why he's not rated. The work he does on the pitch gives Saka so much freedom to excell.
He also has an 50% goal/assist to games ratio at Arsenal, which is just very good.

A great deal, huh? 65m for someone who struggled at Chelsea.

Oh, keep in mind his current role, as a forward, is not what Artesta envisioned. He said this upon the signing:

"Kai is a player of top quality. He has great versatility and is an intelligent player. He will bring a huge amount of extra strength to our midfield and variety to our play," Arsenal manager Mikel Arteta said.

If it was such a great deal, why is Arsenal looking to replace him with Gyokeres two years later?

[El Turco]

Hopefully he just demands a transfer to Juve, am I right?

Juve is as good an option as any but I am guessing Napoli doesn't prefer to do business with Juve. And probably no european team can match Gala's contract offer.

Other teams could get involved longer this drags as Napoli has to sell at all cost and might lower the conditions, but I like to believe Osi will only accept Gala just because he was crazy enough to reject a 45m+ offer from Al Hilal to stay at Gala

I still cannot understand why the giant clubs seem to have no interest in this guy. Sure it’s a huge fee they are asking but worth it in my opinion.
African bias perhaps? If only he were “French”…

He is underrated for sure, most physically gifted striker in the world in my book. Ideally he plays at Gala for another year or two then goes to a club that can challenge for CL titles.

Tbf he is also always in the middle of some transfer drama. Chelsea paid his transfer fee but couldnt fit his wages in their salary structure, PSG was willing to pay his salary but De Laurentiis created issues about the transfer fee. Not easy being a Napoli player on the transfer market.

[KG Leonard]

Can't Madueke play LW like the young Bale style left footed winger puting in good crosses?
I don't think Martinelli is good enough to start for Arsenal, I rather replace with a winger who can cross the ball well. Arsenal have zero wing depth specifically if Trossard who was good, benched Martinelli leaves.

Liverpool, City have many players of real quality fighting for few places and Arsenal can't survive without Saka, Odegaard, Havertz??

[Baseline81]

Can't Madueke play LW like the young Bale style left footed winger puting in good crosses?
I don't think Martinelli is good enough to start for Arsenal, I rather replace with a winger who can cross the ball well. Arsenal have zero wing depth specifically if Trossard who was good, benched Martinelli leaves.

Liverpool, City have many players of real quality fighting for few places and Arsenal can't survive without Saka, Odegaard, Havertz??

A couple issues with the Madueke signing.

1. The timing -- why is Arsenal prioritizing a backup RW/LW when CF is the greater need?
2. The fee -- 52m for a backup, especially when a starter like Kudus goes to Tottenham for 55m.

[KG Leonard]

Can't Madueke play LW like the young Bale style left footed winger puting in good crosses?
I don't think Martinelli is good enough to start for Arsenal, I rather replace with a winger who can cross the ball well. Arsenal have zero wing depth specifically if Trossard who was good, benched Martinelli leaves.

Liverpool, City have many players of real quality fighting for few places and Arsenal can't survive without Saka, Odegaard, Havertz??

A couple issues with the Madueke signing.

1. The timing -- why is Arsenal prioritizing a backup RW/LW when CF is the greater need?
2. The fee -- 52m for a backup, especially when a starter like Kudus goes to Tottenham for 55m.

Of course they need CF but today's game you need wingers with a lot of assist or goals. Saka himself isn't enough, Madueke makes sense back up or not. Kudus is potentially great and really too good for the Levy show in Spurs but Arsenal don't have a planned structure for their transfers. That is very clear by now.

[kdawg32086]

A couple issues with the Madueke signing.

1. The timing -- why is Arsenal prioritizing a backup RW/LW when CF is the greater need?

I don't think it's correct to say that Arsenal is prioritizing him over a striker. Striker clearly is the priority, which is why they strongly looked at both Sesko and Gyokeres, before deciding on Gyokeres as the priority. They started that months before their pursuit of Madueke picked up steam. I would say the timing of when those potential transfers complete has more to do with the selling clubs and the ease of working something out with them, rather than Arsenal's priorities.

It's a different conversation from whether or not Madueke was worth the cost of the transfer...which admittedly, most of us are skeptical of. Does he fill a need? Yes. Is he worth the transfer cost? TBD, but he's going to have to prove a lot to justify it.

[Baseline81]

I don't think it's correct to say that Arsenal is prioritizing him over a striker. Striker clearly is the priority, which is why they strongly looked at both Sesko and Gyokeres, before deciding on Gyokeres as the priority. They started that months before their pursuit of Madueke picked up steam. I would say the timing of when those potential transfers complete has more to do with the selling clubs and the ease of working something out with them, rather than Arsenal's priorities.

It's a different conversation from whether or not Madueke was worth the cost of the transfer...which admittedly, most of us are skeptical of. Does he fill a need? Yes. Is he worth the transfer cost? TBD, but he's going to have to prove a lot to justify it.

Do you agree, during the summer transfer window, clubs are limited in time and money?

To deviate from speaking with Sesko, Gyokeres, and their respective clubs shows Arsenal's priority shifted. You can call it an opportunity if you'd like, but the club felt their time was better spent on working on a Madueke deal. Let me put it this way -- if a boss tells you to put aside what you've been working on, to me, that means the new task has been prioritized.

The problem isn't just whether Madueke is worth the 52m fee, but also where else that 52m could have been used. If it's true you say the priority is still a striker, why wouldn't the club use a portion of that to finalize one of the two they've been in conversations with?

If Rodrygo does become available, Arsenal may no longer be a viable club due to them already using said 52m on Madueke.

[kdawg32086]

I don't think it's correct to say that Arsenal is prioritizing him over a striker. Striker clearly is the priority, which is why they strongly looked at both Sesko and Gyokeres, before deciding on Gyokeres as the priority. They started that months before their pursuit of Madueke picked up steam. I would say the timing of when those potential transfers complete has more to do with the selling clubs and the ease of working something out with them, rather than Arsenal's priorities.

It's a different conversation from whether or not Madueke was worth the cost of the transfer...which admittedly, most of us are skeptical of. Does he fill a need? Yes. Is he worth the transfer cost? TBD, but he's going to have to prove a lot to justify it.

Do you agree, during the summer transfer window, clubs are limited in time and money?

To deviate from speaking with Sesko, Gyokeres, and their respective clubs shows Arsenal's priority shifted. You can call it an opportunity if you'd like, but the club felt their time was better spent on working on a Madueke deal. Let me put it this way -- if a boss tells you to put aside what you've been working on, to me, that means the new task has been prioritized.

The problem isn't just whether Madueke is worth the 52m fee, but also where else that 52m could have been used. If it's true you say the priority is still a striker, why wouldn't the club use a portion of that to finalize one of the two they've been in conversations with?

If Rodrygo does become available, Arsenal may no longer be a viable club due to them already using said 52m on Madueke.

I think the premise of this is incorrect. There's no proof that Arsenal actually stopped working on the Gyokeres transfer by making the offer to Chelsea for Madueke, or that the delay in a deal being completed has anything to do with the offer submitted for Madueke. That's an assumption. What if they submitted the Madueke offer while awaiting a response from Sporting on Gyokeres? To use your analogy, if you submit a high priority task to your boss and cannot do anything else on that task until he sends it back to you with his feedback and/or edits, does it mean that it is no longer the top priority if you work on something else that is less important while waiting for it instead of sitting around and doing nothing?

Gyokeres can be the top priority, even while other things are happening. The Madueke offer and the delay in the Gyokeres transfer aren't necessarily related.

[The_Brecht]

I don't think it's correct to say that Arsenal is prioritizing him over a striker. Striker clearly is the priority, which is why they strongly looked at both Sesko and Gyokeres, before deciding on Gyokeres as the priority. They started that months before their pursuit of Madueke picked up steam. I would say the timing of when those potential transfers complete has more to do with the selling clubs and the ease of working something out with them, rather than Arsenal's priorities.

It's a different conversation from whether or not Madueke was worth the cost of the transfer...which admittedly, most of us are skeptical of. Does he fill a need? Yes. Is he worth the transfer cost? TBD, but he's going to have to prove a lot to justify it.

Do you agree, during the summer transfer window, clubs are limited in time and money?

To deviate from speaking with Sesko, Gyokeres, and their respective clubs shows Arsenal's priority shifted. You can call it an opportunity if you'd like, but the club felt their time was better spent on working on a Madueke deal. Let me put it this way -- if a boss tells you to put aside what you've been working on, to me, that means the new task has been prioritized.

The problem isn't just whether Madueke is worth the 52m fee, but also where else that 52m could have been used. If it's true you say the priority is still a striker, why wouldn't the club use a portion of that to finalize one of the two they've been in conversations with?

If Rodrygo does become available, Arsenal may no longer be a viable club due to them already using said 52m on Madueke.

I think the premise of this is incorrect. There's no proof that Arsenal actually stopped working on the Gyokeres transfer by making the offer to Chelsea for Madueke, or that the delay in a deal being completed has anything to do with the offer submitted for Madueke. That's an assumption. What if they submitted the Madueke offer while awaiting a response from Sporting on Gyokeres? To use your analogy, if you submit a high priority task to your boss and cannot do anything else on that task until he sends it back to you with his feedback and/or edits, does it mean that it is no longer the top priority if you work on something else that is less important while waiting for it instead of sitting around and doing nothing?

Gyokeres can be the top priority, even while other things are happening. The Madueke offer and the delay in the Gyokeres transfer aren't necessarily related.

Correct.
When the links to Norgaard were mentioned, people were arguing it meant that the Zubimendi transfer wouldn't be happening anymore.

I have the feeling the board is going all in this summer. Madueke is arguably an extra option on both flanks, especially since Trossard is likely moving to Turkey and Martinelli getting interest from Saudi. If they both move, another winger is coming and that's were Eze probably is the fitting option.