Who is the greatest captain you ever saw

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Re: Who is the greatest captain you ever saw 

Post#41 » by Slava » Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:09 pm

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SlavaMedvedenko wrote:Funny you guys say that because Keane was supposedly considered to be Robson-lite or Steve Bruce-lite at Old Trafford. He's a great captain and a driven man but he's not even the best United captain.


Blasphemy...lol...yeah it is a matter of opinion & Robson maybe but Bruce hell no.

Steve Bruce was a good player but not good enough to lick Keano's boots & was never even capped at senior level....Oh & Gary Pallister was a better defender & better captain that Brucey.

Still I'd go for Keano, He was captain of United for 13 years or so & led them to the most success they'd had since Bushby babes.(their nickname not mine lol)


Bruce not making the English team is a travesty but he did refuse to play for Ireland if I'm not wrong. He might not have the same technical ability of Roy Keane, just like Keano never had the ability of Giggs, Scholes or even Ferdinand but he was one of the best defenders of his time despite his physical limitations (too slow) and just like Robson before him, Bruce took care of the younger players like they were his family, something Keane learnt first hand from. I read stuff like Keane confiding to Bruce about his troubles as a younger player.

Also the fact that he joined as an apprentice at a small club because no one offered him a contract and what he has made of him shows how great a professional he is.
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Re: Who is the greatest captain you ever saw 

Post#42 » by Doormatt » Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:32 am

from what ive seen

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nobodies come close to embodying an entire team and city as him in the last decade or so.
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Re: Who is the greatest captain you ever saw 

Post#43 » by magik9113 » Thu Sep 15, 2011 4:20 pm

Doormatt wrote:from what ive seen

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nobodies come close to embodying an entire team and city as him in the last decade or so.

what about Del Piero :D
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Re: Who is the greatest captain you ever saw 

Post#44 » by Elden Payton » Fri Sep 16, 2011 7:12 am

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Sik Infant wrote:
SlavaMedvedenko wrote:Funny you guys say that because Keane was supposedly considered to be Robson-lite or Steve Bruce-lite at Old Trafford. He's a great captain and a driven man but he's not even the best United captain.


Blasphemy...lol...yeah it is a matter of opinion & Robson maybe but Bruce hell no.

Steve Bruce was a good player but not good enough to lick Keano's boots & was never even capped at senior level....Oh & Gary Pallister was a better defender & better captain that Brucey.

Still I'd go for Keano, He was captain of United for 13 years or so & led them to the most success they'd had since Bushby babes.(their nickname not mine lol)


Bruce not making the English team is a travesty but he did refuse to play for Ireland if I'm not wrong. He might not have the same technical ability of Roy Keane, just like Keano never had the ability of Giggs, Scholes or even Ferdinand but he was one of the best defenders of his time despite his physical limitations (too slow) and just like Robson before him, Bruce took care of the younger players like they were his family, something Keane learnt first hand from. I read stuff like Keane confiding to Bruce about his troubles as a younger player.

Also the fact that he joined as an apprentice at a small club because no one offered him a contract and what he has made of him shows how great a professional he is.


Excellent points Slava, I do agree that Brucey made the most of his physical limitations, was the absolute professional & should have been capped at international level.

He was a great leader aswell, there is no doubt about that.
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Re: Who is the greatest captain you ever saw 

Post#45 » by Doormatt » Fri Sep 16, 2011 7:17 am

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Doormatt wrote:from what ive seen

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nobodies come close to embodying an entire team and city as him in the last decade or so.

what about Del Piero :D


Nothing wrong with second place :) lord knows were used to it at this point.
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Re: Who is the greatest captain you ever saw 

Post#46 » by treiz » Fri Sep 16, 2011 6:49 pm

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treiz wrote:^I think when it comes to Germans it has to be Oliver Kahn, don't get me wrong from the clips I saw of Beckenbauer he was that national team, I still say he's the best CB of all time. But when a captain is needed to get you over the hump against all odds Kahn wins it hands down. Just look at how he pretty much dragged Germany in the 2002 WC.


Except Kahn didn't manage to win it all. Beckenbauer captained and coached a young team to trophies. And of course he's the best CB of all time, is that ever really debated? I mean a lot of people under-rate him in GOAT discussions, but in G-CB-OAT conversations is there really much debate? Beckenbauer was a perfect captain/coach-on-the-field because he'd win the ball for his side, bring it up himself and then distribute it into the offense and really was a fantastic deep lying playmaker. So he was literally the engine driving those teams forward.

That said Kahn, Zidane and Pavel Nedved are the 3 guys who most prominently come to my mind when I think of a captain I watched live carrying his team to success.


I did say Beckenbauer is the best CB of all time. But I think considering Kahn's teams, he literally had to carry those German teams to the success that he's accomplished for the national teams. He is a massive inspiration in front of goal, and like Schemichel can win a game all by himself.
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Re: Who is the greatest captain you ever saw 

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Re: Who is the greatest captain you ever saw 

Post#48 » by sergiio_88 » Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:30 pm

Ballesteros :D
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