2013-14 German Bundesliga Thread: Bayern Champs Again

[cgf]

It would be so great to see Hamburg finally get relegated. I would never stop laughing at what those morons are doing.

EDIT: That said don't forgetting about Beister, who I actually like more than Son anyway, which is why I don't think that's a huge loss for them.

[Foye]

I feel bad for their new manager...he is doomed to fail with the options they have currently. He can only buy players at low cost with not so much potential and on the other hand has to sell the best players.

Also gotta say that I'm not a fan of the 4-1-4-1 system for Bayern. Especially not if Thiago is the guy who is playing in front of the defense instead of Schweinsteiger or Martinez.

This system won't hold against top teams.

I'm not a fan of Beister. He has shown basically nothing last season. 2nd BL he was good but now he needs to prove in the BL.

[cgf]

Javi or Schweini will play that position against big teams. Plus I doubt Pep plans on playing both Piza and Mandzo up front in real games. People are making too big a deal, once the game's start to matter Pep will play a 4-1-2-3 that isn't far from the 4-2-3-1 Bayern played when Kroos was healthy. Javi/Schweini will drop between the backs to support the build up when needed, as they did for Jupp, Schweini and Kroos/Gotze/Thiago will operate pretty closely patiently picking teams apart, as they did under Jupp. They won't look all that different from what Jupp had them doing already. Except instead of Tymo on the bench they have Alcantara and instead of Gomez it's Gotze.

[cgf]

Beister's a clever player and did a much better job combining with VdV than Son ever did. He's also the guy who created Hamburg's only chance in this game. He does need to prove he can score in the BuLi, but he's a clever player who can score a lot more than he's shown so far.

[Maex]

This might be a look into the future (from todays game against Hamburg):

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw4Wq1Zn0_Q[/youtube]

Thiago -> RIbery -> Mandzukic

[cgf]

A pretty goal no doubt, but again, that's not an uncommon goal for Bayern, only usually Schweini or Kroos, not Thiago, deliver that ball to Ribery.

[Foye]

Beister's a clever player and did a much better job combining with VdV than Son ever did. He's also the guy who created Hamburg's only chance in this game. He does need to prove he can score in the BuLi, but he's a clever player who can score a lot more than he's shown so far.

I'm not watching too many Hamburg games but whenever I saw Beister last season he was awful.

[Maex]

A pretty goal no doubt, but again, that's not an uncommon goal for Bayern, only usually Schweini or Kroos, not Thiago, deliver that ball to Ribery.

Didn't say it was uncommon, but it was the first one from Thiago. A lot of Bayern players are able to pull off a pass like that. You already mentioned Schweinsteiger and Kroos, I'd say also Badstuber is at this level. Than you have Boateng, Dante, Lahm, Martinez and even Gustavo (take a look here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBu0E2UodUg) just one level above.

But you can't say that it's not an advantage to have another guy with those skills A midfield three out of Schweinsteiger, Kroos and Thiago and a offensive three out of Ribery, Müller, Götze, Robben, Mandzukic, Shaqiri is more than a wet dream.

[Maex]

First cup for Bayern this season after winning the final 5:1 against Gladbach, which won 1:0 against Dortmund yesterday.

Bayern was playing like that:

-------------Müller------------
Robben---Lahm---Kroos---Ribery
-------------Thiago------------
Contento-Boateng-vBuyten-Rafinha
-------------Starke-------------

Subs: Kirchhoff (for vBuyten), Alaba (for Contento, Shaqiri (for Thiago), Weiser (for Kroos), Weihrauch (for Lahm)

Besides that Schweinsteiger, Martinez, Gustavo, Götze and Dante are still missing, Bayern is rolling. At first Müller was playing as striker, than they completely played without striker. Eight different players were scoring the nine goals in the tournament.

[Javanar]

First cup for Bayern this season after winning the final 5:1 against Gladbach, which won 1:0 against Dortmund yesterday.

Bayern was playing like that:

-------------Müller------------
Robben---Lahm---Kroos---Ribery
-------------Thiago------------
Contento-Boateng-vBuyten-Rafinha
-------------Starke-------------

Subs: Kirchhoff (for vBuyten), Alaba (for Contento, Shaqiri (for Thiago), Weiser (for Kroos), Weihrauch (for Lahm)

Besides that Schweinsteiger, Martinez, Gustavo, Götze and Dante are still missing, Bayern is rolling. At first Müller was playing as striker, than they completely played without striker. Eight different players were scoring the nine goals in the tournament.

Lahm just behind Müller??? Did Pep really do that??

Style of play is more important than formation IMO. Under Pep's guidance ;

Will Bayern Munchen play a possession and short pass based football like Barca?? If so how will the team respond to that? How will Pep use wingers like Robben, Ribery and Shaqiri in that system? This is the main question about Bayern I think.

Alcantara and Gotze transfers signal that Pep still loves possession based approach... If this is the case Shaqiri, Schweinsteiger, Kroos and (at least one of Ribery & Roben) will have hard time making the starting 11...

[cgf]

...Bayern where the most patient, possession oriented team in the world other than barca for the past many years. Schweini and Kroos will fit in perfectly fine, hell both have flourished exactly because Bayern plays a slow style that lets those two slow players take their time to use their skill and intelligence to flourish.

[Maex]

They play very possession based football, like they did the years before. A lot of short passes and quick one touch play.

But unlike his former Barca side they seem to be allowed to play high and long balls, too. At least from time to time.

[Foye]

They play very possession based football, like they did the years before. A lot of short passes and quick one touch play.

But unlike his former Barca side they seem to be allowed to play high and long balls, too. At least from time to time.

It would be a shame if they weren't because they are very effective at it.

[Maex]

Bayern Munich announced that they have 217,241 registered members now and are going to become the world's biggest members' club.

At the moment, Benfica Lisbon is the leading club with 224,000 registered members.

[Kahn_2001]

Can't wait for tomorrow's game, it should be great. Looking forward to seeing how Dortmund will hold up and Bayern facing the first challenge of the season.

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[Massimo]

Bayern: Starke - Lahm, van Buyten, Boateng, Alaba - Thiago - Robben, Müller, Kroos, Shaqiri - Mandzukic

Dortmund: Weidenfeller - Großkreutz, Subotic, Hummels, Schmelzer - Nuri, Bender - Blaszczykowski, İlkay, Reus -Lewandowski

[Foye]

Dortmund is showing they'll be back this season. Both teams still miss a few players but the level of play is very good for this early in the season

[Massimo]

I really don't think that German teams will succeed this season. I know they are not fully ready and still missing some players but it is only 30 minutes in the game; Dortmund has 1 goal, 1 disallowed goal, 2-3 %100 chances. Bayern has 3 %100 chances.

[Foye]

This can come only from you Massimo. This is the same Bayern team that offered maybe 3 good chances to Juve and Barca in 360 minutes last season while.outscoring them by 11-0 in the same 360 minutes.

Dortmund is defense is very good, too . Maybe not world class but certainly a tier below.

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[Captain_Obvious]

Wow, two Bayern goals in a minute