2013-14 German Bundesliga Thread: Bayern Champs Again

[Maex]

Kroos signs new deal at München. Fantastic news.

You are sure about? Only thing I heard today was Rummenige saying, that he will be at Bayern next season. This would only equal that they won't sell him because his contract is running for one year anyway.

Still it would be fantastic.

Other fantastic news for Bayern: This picture is from today!!

[Maex]

I actually think that my version is right. No new contract but Rummenige confirmed (again) that they are not going to sell.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/201 ... ter-united

[Foye]

Another nice one was the goal from Geis (sadly) against Augsburg.

Awesome player, awesome goal. I went absolutely crazy in the stands lol.

[cgf]

At least we can beat Cottbus!...*sigh* Shame we like the other contenders have **** around so much that the third place has a 6 point cushion on 4th, but we're only a point behind Lautern and Pauli for the moral playoff spot!

[cgf]

7th place most likely would be enough for international football(as long as Kaiserslautern doesn't win at Munich in the german cup semifinal)

As a Lautern fan, We cannot even beat Cottbus on the road, and now you assume we can beat Bayern? We could play with 15 ppl and still lose 0:3.

Not really.
Still, we couldn't even beat Braunschweig and yet we won at Dortmund.
Though, I expect Bayern to go through, as they certainly want to win another cup during Guardiola's first season.

BTW: There are currently rumores, again, that Xherdan Shaqiri will sign a contract extension at Bayern and be loaned to Gladbach for the next two seasons.
In weeks past, both Shaqiri and Eberl(Gladbach's manager) denied it but a pretty reliable source(Torfabrik, a Gladbach fan page that is close to the club and only writes stuff when there's something to it) has stated that it's something that Borussia is working on.

Getting Shaqiri and/or Drmic to replace Arrango would make that front four look very nice. With you already having snapped up Sommer, Hahn and Johnson for like 8M, I'm very optimistic of what you guys will look like next year, especially if you do steal that final CL spot and the funds that come with qualifying for the group stage.

If Traore is also already in the loop all you need is a starting CB like Schar or Ginter, a wide forward who could replace Arrango and back up Kruse even better than Hahn can (which is why I mention Drmic), and this is lower priority but a better backup for Xhaka.

That would leave you well positioned to handle europe. With Kruse, Raffael, Herrmann and Drmic/Shaqiri starting there would be Hahn, Hrgota, Traore and Younes backing them up. Nordveit, Dahoud, Max and hopefully the new guy would back up Xhaka and Kramer, and Wendt/Johnson, Stranzl, Brouwers and Korb would back up Wendt/Johnson, Schar/Ginter, Dominguez and Jantschke on D.

Wonder how much is left in the kitty cause that's a good 15-20M more to spend, with only money for LdJ still to come. Fortunately you haven't yet spent all of the MAtS money and that'll cover a good third of the additional spending I'd like to see, LdJ is rumored to net another 5-6.5M, and then all of sudden we're taking about less money than was spent on any of the big three transfers in the summer of 2012. If they achieve 4th place they should be well positioned to make a good chunk of change, even after bolstering their depth so europe doesn't cost them in the league.

[Det the Threat]

Wonder how much is left in the kitty cause that's a good 15-20M more to spend, with only money for LdJ still to come. Fortunately you haven't yet spent all of the MAtS money and that'll cover a good third of the additional spending I'd like to see, LdJ is rumored to net another 5-6.5M, and then all of sudden we're taking about less money than was spent on any of the big three transfers in the summer of 2012. If they achieve 4th place they should be well positioned to make a good chunk of change, even after bolstering their depth so europe doesn't cost them in the league.

Well, it's pretty easy to calculate.

Even if we just receive about 12 € mil for MATS, we'll nearly have those 20 € mil available.
We've got a new deal with Kappa, a new attendance record(about 52.000 per game and the stadium belongs to the club, so everything will go to the club) and should make a good amount of money from the TV pot, given that we've got a good chance to finish top 7.

So thanks to that Kappa deal(about 4 - 5 mil a year) and money for tickets we'll always have about 7 - 8 mil to spend anyways as well, which(combined with the money for ter Stegen and those 1.5 mil € we already received for the de Jong loan, while also saving about 500 K on his salary) gives us about 20 mil to work with.

Though, we've spend 6 - 7 mil for Sommer, about 2.5 mil for Hahn and certainly about as much(like Hahn) for Johnson as a signing bonus. So we've got about 7 mil to work with left, leaving out any extra money on the TV deal, marketing, de Jong(and Mlapa, who wants to go as well) and, possibly, europe.

[Maex]

I stopped counting after Ginter but those were already seven new guys (+Sommer +loans). Do you really think a team can integrate that much new players, without any problems.This sounds a bit like FIFA'14 instead of Bundesliga real life.

Gladbach can and will not spend the full amount of money they will receive for Mats and LdJ. First of all you have to calculate for tax and other expenses. Additional they will spend some of it for "stones".

Also I though that the fee for Sommer was more likely €8 million, which would be already €10.5 in combination with Hahn.

Max Eberl is doing an extraordinary good job for Gladbach but keep it realistic.

[cgf]

I stopped counting after Ginter but those were already seven new guys (+Sommer +loans). Do you really think a team can integrate that much new players, without any problems.This sounds a bit like FIFA'14 instead of Bundesliga real life.

Gladbach can and will not spend the full amount of money they will receive for Mats and LdJ. First of all you have to calculate for tax and other expenses. Additional they will spend some of it for "stones".

Also I though that the fee for Sommer was more likely €8 million, which would be already €10.5 in combination with Hahn.

Max Eberl is doing an extraordinary good job for Gladbach but keep it realistic.

*shrug* well apparently they've already signed Traore to a pre contract to join Sommer, Hahn and Johnson, are supposedly working on a two year Shaq loan and are still targeting that starting CB, so the club itself are looking at 6 new faces.

You are also ignoring that BMG are a profitable club who aren't still digging out of huge debts so that tax money and other expenses are covered in their budget, leaving most transfer money and European funds for the club.

As for settling that many players, Favre's had to do more before, and this time they won't be losing key pieces they have to replace beyond MAtS.

[Det the Threat]

I stopped counting after Ginter but those were already seven new guys (+Sommer +loans). Do you really think a team can integrate that much new players, without any problems.This sounds a bit like FIFA'14 instead of Bundesliga real life.

Gladbach can and will not spend the full amount of money they will receive for Mats and LdJ. First of all you have to calculate for tax and other expenses. Additional they will spend some of it for "stones".

Also I though that the fee for Sommer was more likely €8 million, which would be already €10.5 in combination with Hahn.

Max Eberl is doing an extraordinary good job for Gladbach but keep it realistic.

We're a financially solid club that is able to spend what it generates.

Last summer, we were able to buy Kruse(2.5 mil) and Raffael(over 5 mil), while also loaning Kramer from Leverkusen. All of that was possible without international football or anything else, cause we calculate pretty solid(our calculations before the season only include the 2nd round of the cup and about 48.000 fans per game) and have solid deals with Kappa and other sponsors.


So I'm not sure what's not realistic about something like 20 mil euros in transfer budget, given that we'll sell ter Stegen for at least 12 mil and will make quite some money from our sponsors and the TV money that gets handed out based on your position at the end of the season.

And no, Sommer was not 8 mil, given that he only had one additional year on his contract.

Also, Favre doesn't have to integrate many players. Only ter Stegen and possibly Arango will be gone from the starting eleven

[Foye]

Incoming money:
Ter Stegen: 12 mil. €
maybe: De Jong 5-6 mil. €
most likely: Mlapa ~ 1 mil. €
+ they qualify for the EL/more tv revenue because they finish higher in the league than last year
3-4 mil. €

Outgoing money:
Hahn ~ 2.5 mil. €
Sommer ~ 6 mil. €
Johnson signing fee (<~0.5 mil. €?)
??? Traore signing fee ??? (<= 1 mil. €?)
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I would expect that Gladbach can spent at least 20 mil. € if they sell de Jong for a decent price. Now they have already spent close to 10 mil. €. That would leave them with another 10 or at max. 12 mil. € to spend if they continue their spending habit of recent years.

Of course there are many other facts to consider but typically Gladbach isn't really far away from an even transfer balance. So I expect them to invest at most 5 mil. more than they make, probably less.

A Shaqiri loan isn't realistic. Buying Ginter or Schär definitely is realistic. Only if Eberl doesn't see many other weaknesses, though.

Edit: I just read the ter Stegen transfer might be in trouble if he hasn't signed the contract already. Barca won't be allowed to make transfers in the next two periods.

[cgf]

Well they can still grab 4th, and as DtT has pointed out, they budget very cautiously and so have brought in revenues above what was expected. So I don't see why one of those young stud CBs and either a Shaq loan or a move for a guy like Drmic would be unrealistic to wrap up their summer. They've really been doing a great job and I love just about everything they're doing/trying-to-get-done.

[Det the Threat]

Edit: I just read the ter Stegen transfer might be in trouble if he hasn't signed the contract already. Barca won't be allowed to make transfers in the next two periods.

Eberl said that we were only able to announce the signing of Yann Sommer because we reached an agreement with the club of ter Stegen.
And I doubt our management spends the money on Sommer without an agreement in written of that ter Stegen transfer.

Also, ter Stegen's management said that even if it won't be Barcelona, that MATS will leave Borussia and go someplace else.

[cgf]

So what is the downside to getting into the CL that Bayer are so trying to avoid? Are they really that afraid of another embarassment? Granted Wolfsburg haven't been too much better about seizing the opportunity and Gladbach didn't get their **** together until a few weeks ago, but damn. 2-1 to HSV? Pulling the Hamburger's out of the relegation zone for the first time in weeks. Can't see Hyypia being kept for much longer.

[Ted Lasso]

So what is the downside to getting into the CL that Bayer are so trying to avoid?

Disco night Tuesdays in Leverkusen.

[Foye]

Its nothing but hilariozs how much Leverkusen have imploded this season.

[cgf]

Well let's hope firing hyypia isn't enough as BMG are now tied for 4th.

[Next Coming]

Bayern are drunk lol.

[ROballer]

Olic lol

Rare to say the least

[Point forward]

When I saw Weiser/Sallahi as Bayern wingbacks, I knew that Pep was practically giving Augsburg a free shot at stopping their streak - and they did. No more unbeaten season for Bayern, good win for FCA. I feel bad for Mainz though. They got beat by "Bayern A", while their EL rival Augsburg beat "Bayern C".

[DD12]

Wow.. All the games ended under 2.5.

Its crazy.