2014 FIFA World Cup: Group D (URA/CRC/ENG/ITA)

[Valid]

Saying Suarez's bite is the same type of offense as a play on the ball that could hurt someone is like saying Zach Randolph punching Stephen Adams in the face deserves the same punishment as a guy trying to block a shot that causes another player to fall to the ground hard. No matter what mental gymnastics you try to do to argue this you are wrong.

The only difference is that if Arevalo doesn't react and let his foot set, he breaks his leg in two. Suarez is uglier and less common, but the harm is at worst make Chiellini bleed and suffer a lot of pain. The risk to Chiellini's professional life is far lesser than what Marchisio imposed on Arevalo.

Um, you do realize that the worst case scenario of being bitten by another human being is much worse than a little bleeding and pain, right?

[ItalianBull]

Danny Mills said he should be arrested lol lol

I mean, if you walk up to someone on the street and bite them, you would be arrested. Why should this be any different? Especially considering this is his third time doing this.

And if i walk up to someone on the street and punch him or headbutt him i would also be arrested, but in football its just a red card.

[bbms]

Saying Suarez's bite is the same type of offense as a play on the ball that could hurt someone is like saying Zach Randolph punching Stephen Adams in the face deserves the same punishment as a guy trying to block a shot that causes another player to fall to the ground hard. No matter what mental gymnastics you try to do to argue this you are wrong.

The only difference is that if Arevalo doesn't react and let his foot set, he breaks his leg in two. Suarez is uglier and less common, but the harm is at worst make Chiellini bleed and suffer a lot of pain. The risk to Chiellini's professional life is far lesser than what Marchisio imposed on Arevalo.

Um, you do realize that the worst case scenario of being bitten by another human being is much worse than a little bleeding and pain, right?

What is the worst case scenario of that? And what's the worst case scenario of breaking your leg in two? Should the totally worst case scenario be applied to a Internation football game, with healthy elite sportsmen and with ambulances all around the pitch?

[Doormatt]

Heartbreaking loss. I don't even know what to say other than **** Suarez

[Man of Steel]

Both are against the rules.
You are asking Suarez to be banned because he broke a rule, but yet you would cheer a goal that broke another rule and not demand that goal to be taken away.

Sounds a little hypocrite to me, but to each their own.

Theft is against the law. Murder is against the law. Would you rather be robbed or murdered? Do we punish murderers and thieves equally? There's levels to this ****.

I'd cheer at the end if we won a match but I wouldn't cheer for a goal breaking a rule. And I definitely wouldn't be proud or nonchalant of a cheating player winning us a game, let alone biting someone. Pepe plays for Real Madrid and Portugal, and I **** hate that guy for the **** he does.

[Valid]

The only difference is that if Arevalo doesn't react and let his foot set, he breaks his leg in two. Suarez is uglier and less common, but the harm is at worst make Chiellini bleed and suffer a lot of pain. The risk to Chiellini's professional life is far lesser than what Marchisio imposed on Arevalo.

Um, you do realize that the worst case scenario of being bitten by another human being is much worse than a little bleeding and pain, right?

What is the worst case scenario of that? And what's the worst case scenario of breaking your leg in two?

Severe infection? You do realize that human bites are even worse than animal bites, right?

[Valid]

The only difference is that if Arevalo doesn't react and let his foot set, he breaks his leg in two. Suarez is uglier and less common, but the harm is at worst make Chiellini bleed and suffer a lot of pain. The risk to Chiellini's professional life is far lesser than what Marchisio imposed on Arevalo.

Um, you do realize that the worst case scenario of being bitten by another human being is much worse than a little bleeding and pain, right?

Should the totally worst case scenario be applied to a Internation football game, with healthy elite sportsmen and with ambulances all around the pitch?

This is completely irrelevant and has absolutely nothing to do with what I'm saying.

[El Turco]

so that we are clear, you can bite, dropkick, dick punch opposing player without any consequence as long as you're not affiliated with a political party. new era of football sure sounds fun.

[treiz]

sure go ahead celebrate the win. but accept the fact that your player did something idiotic and needs to pay for the consequences. that's what i would do.

just because my players brought me the victory doesn't mean they are allowed to get away with murder either.

I don't understand why those 2 don't understand this basic concept

[bbms]

Um, you do realize that the worst case scenario of being bitten by another human being is much worse than a little bleeding and pain, right?

Should the totally worst case scenario be applied to a Internation football game, with healthy elite sportsmen and with ambulances all around the pitch?

This is completely irrelevant and has absolutely nothing to do with what I'm saying.

Isn't the players' integrity the main concern of you all? It's extremely relevant. You didn't tell me the worst case of an exposed fracture.

[Valid]

Should the totally worst case scenario be applied to a Internation football game, with healthy elite sportsmen and with ambulances all around the pitch?

This is completely irrelevant and has absolutely nothing to do with what I'm saying.

Isn't the players' integrity the main concern of you all? It's extremely relevant. You didn't tell me the worst case of an exposed fracture.

I'm not even commenting on that other play because I didn't see it. I have no horse in this race. I'm just talking about what Suarez did.

My problem is more about safety than "integrity." Go bite someone on the street and see what happens. Either a.) you wouldn't live to tell us, or b.) you'd end up spending a nice chunk of time in the slammer.

[treiz]

so that we are clear, you can bite, dropkick, dick punch opposing player without any consequence as long as you're not affiliated with a political party. new era of football sure sounds fun.

Don't forget hurl racial obscenities too, as long as your team wins too everything done during the game should be exempt.

[5DOM]

so that we are clear, you can bite, dropkick, dick punch opposing player without any consequence as long as you're not affiliated with a political party. new era of football sure sounds fun.

still no era for Di Canio

[whocurrz]

Saying Suarez's bite is the same type of offense as a play on the ball that could hurt someone is like saying Zach Randolph punching Stephen Adams in the face deserves the same punishment as a guy trying to block a shot that causes another player to fall to the ground hard. No matter what mental gymnastics you try to do to argue this you are wrong.

The only difference is that if Arevalo doesn't react and let his foot set, he breaks his leg in two. Suarez is uglier and less common, but the harm is at worst make Chiellini bleed and suffer a lot of pain. The risk to Chiellini's professional life is far lesser than what Marchisio imposed on Arevalo.

If you're trying to defend the player's physical integrities, you should be wanting Marchisio's head way more than Suárez. I don't want either heads, but you all chose Suárez for Christ, among all violent players in the world. Among all the violent players on the pitch, and all the violent acts that went on in the earlier game, you picked Suárez, I wonder why.

I can only think of pure reactionary thinking based on Suárez' superior evidence, uncommonality of the act, because morallism, because of blind hatred.

Was talking more about that guy saying all people who flop or make a play on the ball that can be dangerous are just as bannable offenses. That's just a ridiculous argument. Just as another guy mentioned, most tackles hurt more than a racist remark, does that mean it should be allowed of that FIFA should do everything in their power to take disgraceful actions. Marchisio's tackle didn't look nearly as calculated and every analyst I've heard speak of it has said the red was a questionable decision.

The only "blind hatred" Suarez gets is because the guys carries himself like a complete scumbag and it's not just the biting incidents. Oh wait that's not blind at all, it's because everyone has "seen" him do disgraceful things and formed their opinions accordingly. Now you could argue that his past actions are causing people to criticize harsher than they would if it was the first thing the guy ever did, but dude made his own bed. He is not a victim he's a multimillionare who decides to be a scumbag constantly rather than the privilegaed person he is.

Side-note: Biting is not a joke. David Lee almost lost his arm after accidentally taking a tooth to the arm. Bite's can get quickly and severely infected.

[truth18]

No, but here in Uruguay we are celebrating the victory and we dont give a damn of what Suarez did.

And since all of you are so affected by Suarez action, thats why im asking if one of your players scored a goal in a dirty way if you would also be so affected and ask for the goal to be removed or if you will cheer the goal.
So dont avoid the question and answer it, to see if you are so morally correct to judge Suarez's actions and beg for his ban.

It's like you don't understand that scoring a cheap goal and biting another human being are not the same thing.

Both are against the rules.
You are asking Suarez to be banned because he broke a rule, but yet you would cheer a goal that broke another rule and not demand that goal to be taken away.

Sounds a little hypocrite to me, but to each their own.

Lol what? So we should cheer people on who bite others? What are you even talking about? Biting someone and a dirty goal have no relation. He didn't bite someone WHILE scoring or something like that

[bbms]

Saying Suarez's bite is the same type of offense as a play on the ball that could hurt someone is like saying Zach Randolph punching Stephen Adams in the face deserves the same punishment as a guy trying to block a shot that causes another player to fall to the ground hard. No matter what mental gymnastics you try to do to argue this you are wrong.

The only difference is that if Arevalo doesn't react and let his foot set, he breaks his leg in two. Suarez is uglier and less common, but the harm is at worst make Chiellini bleed and suffer a lot of pain. The risk to Chiellini's professional life is far lesser than what Marchisio imposed on Arevalo.

If you're trying to defend the player's physical integrities, you should be wanting Marchisio's head way more than Suárez. I don't want either heads, but you all chose Suárez for Christ, among all violent players in the world. Among all the violent players on the pitch, and all the violent acts that went on in the earlier game, you picked Suárez, I wonder why.

I can only think of pure reactionary thinking based on Suárez' superior evidence, uncommonality of the act, because morallism, because of blind hatred.

Was talking more about that guy saying all people who flop or make a play on the ball that can be dangerous are just as bannable offenses. That's just a ridiculous argument. Just as another guy mentioned, most tackles hurt more than a racist remark, does that mean it should be allowed of that FIFA should do everything in their power to take disgraceful actions. Marchisio's tackle didn't look nearly as calculated and every analyst I've heard speak of it has said the red was a questionable decision.

The only "blind hatred" Suarez gets is because the guys carries himself like a complete scumbag and it's not just the biting incidents. Oh wait that's not blind at all, it's because everyone has "seen" him do disgraceful things and formed their opinions accordingly. Now you could argue that his past actions are causing people to criticize harsher than they would if it was the first thing the guy ever did, but dude made his own bed. He is not a victim he's a multimillionare who decides to be a scumbag constantly rather than the privilegaed person he is.

Side-note: Biting is not a joke. David Lee almost lost his arm after accidentally taking a tooth to the arm. Bite's can get quickly and severely infected.

You know who's the victim, right? Not Chiellini, because in the worst case he would receive medical care in a heartbeat and could even be able to complete the match. Not Suárez, because he is aggressiveness and will have a week off and would make tons of odes to Bacco in that period.

The victim is the people of Uruguay and that's what I'm saying the whole topic. Make it a punishment that doesn't make Uruguayan people suffer. Fine Suárez heavily. Make him pay hard to play next game. Make him sign a term that forces him to do 1 month of charity work in order to play next match. That'd be something constructive, wouldn't it?

That's how you punish Suárez, and satisfy you all guys' bloodlust. That's how you do not punish the WC and the people of Uruguay. The people who are BUYING the entertainment of WC.

[treiz]

Suarez commented on the incident:

“These things happen in the box,” Suarez was quoted as telling Uruguayan media.

“We were in contact, chest against shoulder, and I got a knock to the eye.”

But wasn't he holding his teeth?

[bbms]

Of course no. Racial abuse is a very political problem by its own nature. Punishment, neutralization, elimination is totally fine to deal with political questions, I'd say it's the only way. But I say that banning Suárez is the worst and uneffective way to deal with Suárez and overall physical violence in football. It just affect negatively Uruguayans, and do not affect Suárez negatively, except that people will throw out 225 instead of 250 thousands of pounds per week on his next contract.

But it's post match, and you said you are against it

You're not getting me. Racial abuse has nothing to do with sport. It has nothing to do with intolerance. MLK never claimed for tolerance. Racism is a social-political problem, that should be attacked with social-political measures. Suárez bit is a sportive problem, and your preferred measures doesn't solve the sportive problem, just aggravates it, making the sport worse. Sent off is something, the suspension of the next game is something. Ban is another thing. The only thing the ban will do is give Suárez the rest of the WC off, to bang chicks in Rio and discuss his mega ultra deal with Barça.

[MaliBrah]

LOL just got back from work , suarez smh , this racist cannibal. Wonder if he'll say "in uruguay biting someone is friendly" ahahaa

whats the worst that can happen to him? he's a 3 time offender now. Chiellni should get a rabies shot

[treiz]

You know who's the victim, right? Not Chiellini, because in the worst case he would receive medical care in a heartbeat and could even be able to complete the match. Not Suárez, because he is aggressiveness and will have a week off and would make tons of odes to Bacco in that period.

The victim is the people of Uruguay and that's what I'm saying the whole topic. Make it a punishment that doesn't make Uruguayan people suffer. Fine Suárez heavily. Make him pay hard to play next game. Make him sign a term that forces him to do 1 month of charity work in order to play next match. That'd be something constructive, wouldn't it?

That's how you punish Suárez, and satisfy you all guys' bloodlust. That's how you do not punish the WC and the people of Uruguay. The people who are BUYING the entertainment of WC.

But he needs to pay the consequences for his actions. He did something stupid and he should pay for it, instead of us thinking about the people of Uruguay maybe he should've done the same thing and not put himself in that position.

Because at the end of the day this bite did nothing to affect the game, if he just played normally like a sane person would then we wouldn't be having this discussion. It's not about the other people apart from you, martin and the whole population of Uruguay having a "bloodlust" against him. This is him living with the consequences of his actions, also as I said earlier maybe Suarez is already down on the deep end of sanity but punishing him accordingly will deter other players from doing so, otherwise you are making it ok to bite people in a regular game.