2014 FIFA World Cup: Group D (URA/CRC/ENG/ITA)

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Who advances from Group D?

Poll ended at Sat Jun 21, 2014 1:19 am

Uruguay
39
30%
Costa Rica
7
5%
England
30
23%
Italy
53
41%
 
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Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group D (URA/CRC/ENG/ITA) 

Post#1581 » by El Turco » Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:55 pm

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El Belgian wrote:i love this x person did something wrong so suarez should avoid punishment logic. we are very close to a post that says "hitler killed jews therefore suarez is innocent"


Why should he avoid punishment?


oh somebody think of the poor uruguayan fans!
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Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group D (URA/CRC/ENG/ITA) 

Post#1582 » by IronChef » Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:56 pm

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El Belgian wrote:i love this x person did something wrong so suarez should avoid punishment logic. we are very close to a post that says "hitler killed jews therefore suarez is innocent"


I also love the "we know everyone does worse things on a football match, but who cares, i only want Suárez head for the worst penalty possible!"

Seriously, the inconsistent ones are you pro-ban. Suárez should receive his punishment, but banning him doesn't punish him at a personal level at all. It punishes the WC and that's as clear as a cup of water.


Banning him doesn't punish him at a personal level at all? You don't think he cares about playing in the WC at all?
With that logic why ban a play ever, for anything? You're punishing the club and it's supporters, etc. People who do stupid, dangerous, violent **** on the pitch should be punished, there's nothing inconsistent about that.
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Post#1583 » by MaliBrah » Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:58 pm

GMgoran wrote:It is common sense, really ... The only way that FSG would sell Suarez is if some club triggers his $135 million release clause, and in this situation no club would even think about it ...

most catalan papers have headlines that say he's perfect for a team thats "hungry" to win titles again. lol

they have multiple cheats already , don't think they'd care if they add a cannibal cheat lol

john henry is a don though and will probably flex his muscle again
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Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group D (URA/CRC/ENG/ITA) 

Post#1584 » by bbms » Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:09 pm

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bbms wrote:
El Belgian wrote:i love this x person did something wrong so suarez should avoid punishment logic. we are very close to a post that says "hitler killed jews therefore suarez is innocent"


I also love the "we know everyone does worse things on a football match, but who cares, i only want Suárez head for the worst penalty possible!"

Seriously, the inconsistent ones are you pro-ban. Suárez should receive his punishment, but banning him doesn't punish him at a personal level at all. It punishes the WC and that's as clear as a cup of water.


Banning him doesn't punish him at a personal level at all? You don't think he cares about playing in the WC at all?
With that logic why ban a play ever, for anything? You're punishing the club and it's supporters, etc. People who do stupid, dangerous, violent **** on the pitch should be punished, there's nothing inconsistent about that.


The football has very violent plays by its own nature. Every game there are seriously dangerous plays that can end a player's carreer, and to my account, that is worse than what Suárez did. What makes what Suárez did this bad in your eyes, is just the aesthetics of the act, not the damage itself. If you make a courthouse ban to Suárez, than, a lot of really worse attacks, like the Marchisio one, which imposes a bigger threat to Arévalo's health, and is also antidesportive behaviour (lol if you think Marchisio wanted to get the ball on that play), will have to be courthoused' too. This is consistency. Not wanting the head of just one player. I don't want any of them to happen. I want the guy to miss the following game like any red card would do. Because that's one of the rules of this sport, one of the 11. The football should be run by referees not judges, jury and exectioneers.

You think Suárez' attack was non-related to soccer? Ok, then. Press criminal charges. There shouldn't be a Sportive Court to judge players at all. This is how you affect the player. Suárez' ban of the WC will only give him a couple of weeks of break, banging skunks, partying and discussing his next contract. That isn't punishment. That is called holliday.

But this subject has gone so far.
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Post#1585 » by Next Coming » Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:12 pm

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truth18 wrote:Makes sense to me why LFC supporters would want him there but he will be gone by the start of the season if Barca really wants him. Don't be delusional Goran


Actually, what happened yesterday works in our favor ... After the Neymar fiasco, Barca are very cautious about their public image, so there is very little chance of them going after Suarez ...


Two of my best friends are Liverpool fans and continue to say stuff like this to me. I really think you're being delusional and that he will be gone soon but I guess neither of us really know.

If he's still on Liverpool when the season starts, kudos to you, if not, hate to say I told you so.


I don't think people know either way tbh. Madrid don't seen too interested and Barca don't have £85M just hanging around. Alexis going to Liverpool would cut out £25M but something tells me they want Higuian.
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Post#1586 » by Next Coming » Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:12 pm

MaliBrah wrote:lol banning him from international games is an advantage to liverpool lol


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Post#1587 » by truth18 » Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:13 pm

MaliBrah wrote:
GMgoran wrote:It is common sense, really ... The only way that FSG would sell Suarez is if some club triggers his $135 million release clause, and in this situation no club would even think about it ...

most catalan papers have headlines that say he's perfect for a team thats "hungry" to win titles again. lol

they have multiple cheats already , don't think they'd care if they add a cannibal cheat lol

john henry is a don though and will probably flex his muscle again


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Post#1588 » by Next Coming » Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:13 pm

Little Nathan wrote:The reactions from Uruguay are epic. How delusional can you be? :lol:

I hope they ban Suarez from this and the next WC. That would make it very likely we would never have to see him in a WC again.


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Post#1589 » by MaliBrah » Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:14 pm

how on earth is missing games not punishment and a holiday? its the world cup ffs. The biggest stage in sports for soccer athletes. I get sad when soccer/basketball runs are canceled in my area and you actually think missing the world cup and having regret of ruining it for your team and nation is a holiday and not punishment? lol
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Post#1590 » by Next Coming » Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:15 pm

Dog we have to talk more about Danny Mills claim that Luis Suarez should be arrested for life. That's the best thing that's come out of this.
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Post#1591 » by MaliBrah » Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:17 pm

Next Coming wrote:
MaliBrah wrote:lol banning him from international games is an advantage to liverpool lol


Need Stevie to retire from intl duty now lol

loooool he probably will. I hate mid season friendlies and international games so much man , everyone gets hurt and tired lol
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Post#1592 » by MaliBrah » Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:18 pm

Next Coming wrote:Dog we have to talk more about Danny Mills claim that Luis Suarez should be arrested for life. That's the best thing that's come out of this.

LOL he's way out of touch lool , twellman said he'd remind suarez who he is after the game ahahahahhahaahha , big man
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Post#1593 » by EArl » Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:20 pm

El Belgian wrote:i love this x person did something wrong so suarez should avoid punishment logic. we are very close to a post that says "hitler killed jews therefore suarez is innocent"

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Post#1594 » by Mike K » Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:24 pm

bbms wrote:The football has very violent plays by its own nature. Every game there are seriously dangerous plays that can end a player's carreer, and to my account, that is worse than what Suárez did. What makes what Suárez did this bad in your eyes, is just the aesthetics of the act, not the damage itself. If you make a courthouse ban to Suárez, than, a lot of really worse attacks, like the Marchisio one, which imposes a bigger threat to Arévalo's health, and is also antidesportive behaviour (lol if you think Marchisio wanted to get the ball on that play), will have to be courthoused' too. This is consistency. Not wanting the head of just one player. I don't want any of them to happen. I want the guy to miss the following game like any red card would do. Because that's one of the rules of this sport, one of the 11. The football should be run by referees not judges, jury and exectioneers.


Look, it's simple. Tackles are a part of the game even if they happen to be dangerous - that's part of football being a contact sport. Biting someone is not part of any sport. It's not an acceptable thing for a human being to do on a football pitch or anywhere else. It has nothing to do with risk of injury. The governing bodies of football and the majority of fans do not want biting to become a part of football. I would have though this had been made pretty clear to certain mr. Suarez with the two long term bans he has already received from two different FA's, but apparently he's not getting the message. So the message needs to be even clearer this time. Luis Suarez is not being victimized. He has no one to blame for this but himself.
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Post#1595 » by GMgoran » Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:26 pm

MaliBrah wrote:
GMgoran wrote:It is common sense, really ... The only way that FSG would sell Suarez is if some club triggers his $135 million release clause, and in this situation no club would even think about it ...

most catalan papers have headlines that say he's perfect for a team thats "hungry" to win titles again. lol

they have multiple cheats already , don't think they'd care if they add a cannibal cheat lol

john henry is a don though and will probably flex his muscle again


John W. Henry is a very smart fella ... Despite all the incidents, he knows that Suarez is a Top 3 player in the World at the moment ... So, if he sells him, he will get the full value for him ...
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Post#1596 » by Next Coming » Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:30 pm

MaliBrah wrote:
Next Coming wrote:Dog we have to talk more about Danny Mills claim that Luis Suarez should be arrested for life. That's the best thing that's come out of this.

LOL he's way out of touch lool , twellman said he'd remind suarez who he is after the game ahahahahhahaahha , big man


Taylor said what???? Lol.

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Post#1597 » by Mike X » Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:37 pm

To digress from the Suarez talk So it looks like the italians are going to make balotelli the scapegoat. Predictable

Dont worry about the fact they built the team around a 52 year-old and played with the pace of the Port Macquarie Lawn Bowls club senior mens team (thats a team of very old men FYI)
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Post#1598 » by MaliBrah » Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:39 pm

Next Coming wrote:
MaliBrah wrote:
Next Coming wrote:Dog we have to talk more about Danny Mills claim that Luis Suarez should be arrested for life. That's the best thing that's come out of this.

LOL he's way out of touch lool , twellman said he'd remind suarez who he is after the game ahahahahhahaahha , big man


Taylor said what???? Lol.

Also mate this vine has been giving me life


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Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group D (URA/CRC/ENG/ITA) 

Post#1599 » by bbms » Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:44 pm

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bbms wrote:The football has very violent plays by its own nature. Every game there are seriously dangerous plays that can end a player's carreer, and to my account, that is worse than what Suárez did. What makes what Suárez did this bad in your eyes, is just the aesthetics of the act, not the damage itself. If you make a courthouse ban to Suárez, than, a lot of really worse attacks, like the Marchisio one, which imposes a bigger threat to Arévalo's health, and is also antidesportive behaviour (lol if you think Marchisio wanted to get the ball on that play), will have to be courthoused' too. This is consistency. Not wanting the head of just one player. I don't want any of them to happen. I want the guy to miss the following game like any red card would do. Because that's one of the rules of this sport, one of the 11. The football should be run by referees not judges, jury and exectioneers.


Look, it's simple. Tackles are a part of the game even if they happen to be dangerous - that's part of football being a contact sport. Biting someone is not part of any sport. It's not an acceptable thing for a human being to do on a football pitch or anywhere else. It has nothing to do with risk of injury. The governing bodies of football and the majority of fans do not want biting to become a part of football. I would have though this had been made pretty clear to certain mr. Suarez with the two long term bans he has already received from two different FA's, but apparently he's not getting the message. So the message needs to be even clearer this time. Luis Suarez is not being victimized. He has no one to blame for this but himself.


Agreed. The message has not been learned (and is likely to never be. There are some acts that are unconscious, Suárez has bitten, was predicted to bite again, and is likely to bite again). Biting isn't part of the football. So why should be applied FOOTBALL SANCTIONS on a NON-FOOTBALL ACT? If acts like this are such PERSONAL acts, why should be applied a COLLECTIVE sanction? Is that really tough to understand that a CRIMINAL LAWSUIT OF AGGRESSION is much better suited, and does the job of disciplining Suáres much better than a disciplinar charge that only takes effect on his PROFESSIONAL life? A sanction on his PERSONAL LIFE disciplines. A sanction on his PROFESSIONAL life, would only discipline if he was unable to still earn lots of millions of pounds per year.

That's just irrational thinking you are doing. It's just regurgitation of pre-made thinking. That's exactly what Fifa will do and guess what? Suárez will be the less affected by the sanction between him, the WC quality of football (how many times you heard "what a shame Suárez did that, now he's likely to miss the world cup... if not you said that"), and most of all, the people who are buying the entertainment circus of the WC. NOBODY needs a rule or sanction to know that they SHOULD NOT BITE. It's STUPID, it's NOT ETHICAL. If you asked Suárez before the game started "do you think it's wise to bite someone in this match", he would not answer because it's a effing STUPID question. He won't bite because it's not right, because he doesn't want to get bitten next game, and a sanction, a law, a rule will not make any difference in that judgement. Red card is enough punishment in the soccer level, and further punishment is IRRATIONAL, because it hurts who are around him more than the player himself. These players simply don't **** care about the next match. They have their money locked up in long contracts. Common justice, if you want punishment for his actions and just that, is more effective.

Unless you are just afraid of him. I'm not Uruguayan, and I'm DYING to see Suárez and Uruguay's asses kicked. But with Suárez playing on a great match.

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Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group D (URA/CRC/ENG/ITA) 

Post#1600 » by Mike K » Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:49 pm

If he can't be expected to stop biting people on a football pitch he needs to be kept off it. If he starts biting people on the street he will be locked up probably after getting his face smashed in. Nothing inappropriate in any of this. Unfortunate that a good player will be out of the tournament but you have to draw a line somewhere.

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