2015–16 UEFA Champions League

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Re: 2015 

Post#1681 » by CalamityX12 » Fri Mar 18, 2016 1:19 pm

Maybe most years I would be jumping at Wolfsburg.... but god damn it, Zidane needs this offense clicking.... can't sleep on Wolfsburg!

Of course, on the brink of elimination, Bayern gets Benfica.

Barca vs At. Madrid..... that's going to be a fun one!

PSG vs Man City, winner will make it to their first semi final? that's pretty exciting stuff. I can't recall PSG making it to the semis before and obviously it would be a first for Man City...

Real Madrid(freakin aholes!), Bayern, Barca and Man City(upset!) make it through
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Re: 2015 

Post#1682 » by Baphomet » Fri Mar 18, 2016 1:29 pm

Good draws, I think. Wolfsburg actually have a chance against Real if they play like they did against Roma, they allowed many chances that I believe Wolfsburg's forwards would have finished. I think it was cgf that noted that, and I think he might be right.
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Re: 2015 

Post#1683 » by fraanciiscoo » Fri Mar 18, 2016 2:18 pm

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And who can blame you, the last European trophy you won was in 1962. Since then, Tottenham have won 3

well thats the truth in 1963,1972 and 1984 whats your point ? we are in 2016 did you know that
both our teams won european trophy last century But we won the European Champion Clubs' Cup and you guys won what? UEFA cups right

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Re: 2015 

Post#1684 » by fraanciiscoo » Fri Mar 18, 2016 2:27 pm

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Re: 2015 

Post#1685 » by DD12 » Fri Mar 18, 2016 2:30 pm

J-Mezzy wrote:Massimo actually knows and has a great understanding of the sport, he's just the most passionate fan in the forum and his passion skews his views.

He will greatly overrate Turkish/Gala players, underrate any German and Arsenal players, and diminish players who he deems a threat to his favorite players in comparisons such as Suarez, Messi, even Guardiola.

To put it in better terms, Massimo is the least objective poster here, but he's not clueless. The dude knows his ****


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These two are criticizing the one who grew up literally in the stadium, watched more than 500 matches live in the stadium, been to Boca-River, Celtic-Rangers, Barca-Real Madrid, Bayern-Dortmund, Manu-Arsenal matches and many more that I don't need to mention. On top of that, been probably most of the european competition matches of Galatasaray in Turkey and Europe due to my dad being involved with the club and watching every single match in the stadiums when we won UEFA cup in 2000.

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Re: 2015 

Post#1686 » by CalamityX12 » Fri Mar 18, 2016 2:51 pm

Baphomet wrote:Good draws, I think. Wolfsburg actually have a chance against Real if they play like they did against Roma, they allowed many chances that I believe Wolfsburg's forwards would have finished. I think it was cgf that noted that, and I think he might be right.

Absolutely... the defense this year has taken a nose dive with the exception of Navas being back there to help aid the terrible woes...

Real needs all their attackers to get involved and not rely on Ronaldo, it takes away from they are capable of contributing.

Defensively, good lord, get it together soon. But at the same time, I don't think Pepe will be the starter again along with danilo....(he has his ups but his downs are more IMO).

Carvajal-Varane-Ramos(no one else)-Marcelo are their best options.
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Re: 2015 

Post#1687 » by queridiculo » Fri Mar 18, 2016 5:42 pm

cgf wrote:Pep's unending love for Xabi almost gets Bayern eliminated. And of course once he finally brought Thiago on he decided the match for the bavarians like the disgustingly gifted player that he is. Alongside the decision to start the veteran Ribery over the on-form Coman, as well as opting for Benatia at CB over Alaba...who had a dreadful start to match playing the LB position that he oh so rarely plays this season...Pep's conservatism/over-caution in big matches almost killed him yet again. For such a clever and creative coach, that must be such an irritating trend for Bayern fans to see in him.


Except for the few times van Gaal played Ribery as a false 10, Franck has been a left wing exclusively for Bayern. Coman's strongest position is right wing, so the choice was never between the two, it was either play Costa alongside Coman or opt for a more experienced lineup with Ribery at his usual spot and playing Costa on the right wing.

Ribery's form has been trending upwards and he's a big game player, so given the stakes of the game I see very little reason to question his lineup choices.

As for Alaba, he has started almost every game at LB for Bayern this season and just about every other season since coming back to Bayern from loan in 2011, not sure where you get the idea that he rarely plays that position..

If it seems like he doesn't it's only because Guardiola is asking a lot from him, and Lahm for that matter, having both of them push up the pitch as wingers and playing around the opponents box in possession.

Alaba looked bad early on primarily because of Bayern's inability to establish possession consistently and got caught out of position on a number of occasions when Bayern turned the ball over with unforced errors.

It's a calculated gamble Guardiola takes to play his brand of football and generally Alaba does a good job either getting the ball back pressing up the pitch or using his pace to get back on defense, that wasn't always the case against Juve.
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Re: 2015 

Post#1688 » by cgf » Fri Mar 18, 2016 5:48 pm

Curious whether FC VW can keep CR7 from scoring hattricks in each leg...shocking how Real is given a cakewalk while their form is in the gutter...

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cgf wrote:Pep's unending love for Xabi almost gets Bayern eliminated. And of course once he finally brought Thiago on he decided the match for the bavarians like the disgustingly gifted player that he is. Alongside the decision to start the veteran Ribery over the on-form Coman, as well as opting for Benatia at CB over Alaba...who had a dreadful start to match playing the LB position that he oh so rarely plays this season...Pep's conservatism/over-caution in big matches almost killed him yet again. For such a clever and creative coach, that must be such an irritating trend for Bayern fans to see in him.


Except for the few times van Gaal played Ribery as a false 10, Franck has been a left wing exclusively for Bayern. Coman's strongest position is right wing, so the choice was never between the two, it was either play Costa alongside Coman or opt for a more experienced lineup with Ribery at his usual spot and playing Costa on the right wing.

Ribery's form has been trending upwards and he's a big game player, so given the stakes of the game I see very little reason to question his lineup choices.

As for Alaba, he has started almost every game at LB for Bayern this season and just about every other season since coming back to Bayern from loan in 2011, not sure where you get the idea that he rarely plays that position..

If it seems like he doesn't it's only because Guardiola is asking a lot from him, and Lahm for that matter, having both of them push up the pitch as wingers and playing around the opponents box in possession.

Alaba looked bad early on primarily because of Bayern's inability to establish possession consistently and got caught out of position on a number of occasions when Bayern turned the ball over with unforced errors.

It's a calculated gamble Guardiola takes to play his brand of football and generally Alaba does a good job either getting the ball back pressing up the pitch or using his pace to get back on defense, that wasn't always the case against Juve.


...or he could've started Coman on the right and moved Costa (who's played all across the second attacking band this season) over to take Ribery's spot. Ribery was a big time player once, but he's clearly still not full fit, and he's not that same Ribery who was one of the best wingers on the planet.

Re; Alaba: He's a natural 8 who's started playing there (some) again since Pep arrived, and began to get used as a CB last year. This season he's played more CB than LB (at least over the past few months), where he has a massive influence over their build up and has been excellent. Against Juve he wasn't able to get into the match like he does through the middle, the build up play suffered from having Benatia in his spot, and he got his spacing wrong due to how much he's been playing at CB this season.
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Re: 2015 

Post#1689 » by EArl » Fri Mar 18, 2016 6:35 pm

of course bayern and real get the easy games. Atletico will be a good matchup, but we've had their number the past couple of games.
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Re: 2015 

Post#1690 » by EArl » Fri Mar 18, 2016 6:37 pm

J-Mezzy wrote:Massimo actually knows and has a great understanding of the sport, he's just the most passionate fan in the forum and his passion skews his views.

He will greatly overrate Turkish/Gala players, underrate any German and Arsenal players, and diminish players who he deems a threat to his favorite players in comparisons such as Suarez, Messi, even Guardiola.

To put it in better terms, Massimo is the least objective poster here, but he's not clueless. The dude knows his ****

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Re: 2015 

Post#1691 » by Merc_Porto » Fri Mar 18, 2016 6:58 pm

Tell me if this draw doesn't look suspicious ?

The top 4 teams in the world right now (Real, Barca, Bayern, PSG) vs the others.
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Re: 2015 

Post#1692 » by cgf » Fri Mar 18, 2016 7:52 pm

mercgold3 wrote:Tell me if this draw doesn't look suspicious ?

The top 4 teams in the world right now (Real, Barca, Bayern, PSG) vs the others.


How can it be the top 4 teams in the world right now when BVB is playing in the EL this season? :-D


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J-Mezzy wrote:Massimo actually knows and has a great understanding of the sport, he's just the most passionate fan in the forum and his passion skews his views.

He will greatly overrate Turkish/Gala players, underrate any German and Arsenal players, and diminish players who he deems a threat to his favorite players in comparisons such as Suarez, Messi, even Guardiola.

To put it in better terms, Massimo is the least objective poster here, but he's not clueless. The dude knows his ****

mezzy someone hacked your account


Massi has some hilariously archaic views on some things, has an obsession with being able to convince himself that he is the "winner" in every argument (as well as promptly forgetting about things that contradict his arguments), and is wonderfully biased. Which has lead to some deliciously non-sensical lines of argument; but he's not completely clueless if you filter out the things you know he's just going to refuse to be any sort of objective about.

TL;DR: he's a fun troll for a reason.
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Post#1693 » by DD12 » Fri Mar 18, 2016 9:06 pm

Yeah we can count trolling as; Bayern will destroy the world, Gotze is better than Neymar, Swiss will finish above France so on so on.

It's like Cr7 situation. People hate to see people who are doing better at various things. It's ok. You all will be fine one day. One day, you will have some accurate opinions that will come true instead of carrying that avatar that looks awful. It's okay my little cryboy, it's okay.

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Re: 2015 

Post#1694 » by cgf » Fri Mar 18, 2016 9:38 pm

DD12 wrote:Yeah we can count trolling as; Bayern will destroy the world, Gotze is better than Neymar, Swiss will finish above France so on so on.

It's like Cr7 situation. People hate to see people who are doing better at various things. It's ok. You all will be fine one day. One day, you will have some accurate opinions that will come true instead of carrying that avatar that looks awful. It's okay my little cryboy, it's okay.

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Hey that's my schtick...or at least that's the way you've chosen to (mis-)remember it...

You're the "German teams won't ever win anything again because they're such chokers & who'll be lifelong losers (in 2012); Fabio Capello is the best coach at the WC (& russia will do better than the swiss); and Burak Yilmaz/Felipe Melo" guy.
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Re: 2015 

Post#1695 » by Ted Lasso » Sat Mar 19, 2016 1:29 pm

J-Mezzy wrote:So good to have Ted Lasso back


It's because I'm already causing a rise in tension levels on the board, right? :D Hahah much appreciated, buddy!
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Re: 2015 

Post#1696 » by Ted Lasso » Sat Mar 19, 2016 1:35 pm

cgf wrote:Re; Alaba: He's a natural 8 who's started playing there (some) again since Pep arrived, and began to get used as a CB last year. This season he's played more CB than LB (at least over the past few months), where he has a massive influence over their build up and has been excellent. Against Juve he wasn't able to get into the match like he does through the middle, the build up play suffered from having Benatia in his spot, and he got his spacing wrong due to how much he's been playing at CB this season.


Alaba is an insufficient defender at left-back. There's no two ways around it. It's counter-intuitive but some players are oddly better defenders at centre-back than at full-back. Vertonghen is a more obvious, less complicated example, because I don't think Alaba could survive at centre-back at all in any other system. He's an amazing offensive full-back or a central midfielder.
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Re: 2015 

Post#1697 » by queridiculo » Sat Mar 19, 2016 5:41 pm

cgf wrote:Re; Alaba: He's a natural 8 who's started playing there (some) again since Pep arrived, and began to get used as a CB last year. This season he's played more CB than LB (at least over the past few months), where he has a massive influence over their build up and has been excellent. Against Juve he wasn't able to get into the match like he does through the middle, the build up play suffered from having Benatia in his spot, and he got his spacing wrong due to how much he's been playing at CB this season.


I've been following Bayern for 30+ years, Alaba has almost exclusively played LB, including this season, since breaking into the league.
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Re: 2015 

Post#1698 » by cgf » Sat Mar 19, 2016 7:08 pm

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cgf wrote:Re; Alaba: He's a natural 8 who's started playing there (some) again since Pep arrived, and began to get used as a CB last year. This season he's played more CB than LB (at least over the past few months), where he has a massive influence over their build up and has been excellent. Against Juve he wasn't able to get into the match like he does through the middle, the build up play suffered from having Benatia in his spot, and he got his spacing wrong due to how much he's been playing at CB this season.


I've been following Bayern for 30+ years, Alaba has almost exclusively played LB, including this season, since breaking into the league.


Not according to my memory, spielverlagerung's articles about your games, or whoscored...

https://www.whoscored.com/Players/39722/Show/David-Alaba
https://www.whoscored.com/Players/39722/History/David-Alaba

According to their #s he played at CB or CM in 20 of his 29 BuLi+CL games this year; and last year it was 20 out of 25.
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Re: 2015 

Post#1699 » by No_20 » Sat Mar 19, 2016 8:45 pm

Müller is a top 5 player in the world. How the hell can you not call him world class?
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Re: RE: Re: 2015 

Post#1700 » by Merc_Porto » Sat Mar 19, 2016 8:50 pm

No_20 wrote:Müller is a top 5 player in the world. How the hell can you not call him world class?

You're joking right ?

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