Transfer Thread 10.0 - 2017 January Window

[El Turco]

I dont see how teams spending money makes that league unwatchable, not like it is coming out of your pocket. It would be one thing if it lead to one team dominating but epl has been much more competitive than the league you are following the most.

Dont think you thought this through very well.

More competitive or not the EPL is a giant money-wasting machine. What is happening in the EPL is just going against all moral standards.
Look at Wilfried Bony...what has this guy done to cost 35 mil.? That's a price tag you get a world class player for everywhere but in UK.

Chelsea hasnt won a title in 5 years, it has been a while since they handed the title back. They have contended in recent history, so have united, liverpool,arsenal. That's better than bundesliga where title is decided in first month or la liga where it has been a two horse race up until last year. Whether you like the playing style is a matter of preference but deeming league unwatchable because of teams' spending habits sound pretty dumb. I am no fan of city or psg but they surely put out more than adequate product on the field.

Arsenal have contended for a title in recent years? You might want to exchange with Massimo on this. If by contend you mean for the 4th place trophy you are correct.

that's like saying versailles is not worth seeing because louis xiv wasted so much money. dislike the clubs all you want, city and chelsea still puts out a better quality football than 90 percent of the teams out there. and i sure hope you dont have a bank account or drive a car if your moral compass doesnt allow you to utililize entities that waste money.

and arsenal have been in title conversation deep into march, they have been a juggernaut compared to 17 teams that drop out in bundesliga come october

[Foye]

that's like saying versailles is not worth seeing because louis xiv wasted so much money. dislike the clubs all you want, city and chelsea still puts out a better quality football than 90 percent of the teams out there. and i sure hope you dont have a bank account or drive a car if your moral compass doesnt allow you to utililize entities that waste money.

and arsenal have been in title conversation deep into march, they have been a juggernaut compared to 17 teams that drop out in bundesliga come october

So you mean Bundesliga teams are comparable to Gala in the CL?

The product of City & Chelsea might be good but I don't need to support the crap they are doing right?
Not to mention for both clubs the CL results have been absolutely underwhelming.
City haven't even managed to once reach the semi final (did they even reach the quarter final?...I dont remember, probably not, though. ) in recent years which even Dortmund and Schalke have done.
Chelsea has stepped it up a bit with their park the bus CL title but for all the money invested in the past decade their results in the CL were still relatively underwhelming.

[5DOM]

Chelsea have been one of the most consistently successful clubs in the CL since 2003-2004 over the likes of Real Madrid

[El Turco]

yeah chelsea always been good in cl except for the basel disaster year, comparing it to schalke is ridiculous.

[Geddy]

So on one hand if a person says that this spending is not good, and also points out that the teams that are overspending haven't had good results, then don't both arguments cancel each other out? If they aren't doing as good as you think they are then what's the problem?

[Foye]

yeah chelsea always been good in cl except for the basel disaster year, comparing it to schalke is ridiculous.

I compared Schalke to Manchester City, not Chelsea.

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[cgf]

Chelsea have been one of the most consistently successful clubs in the CL since 2003-2004 over the likes of Real Madrid

Chelsea, even without the fluke win, have been reliable CL quarter-/Semi-/finalists for a while now. For the money spent maybe not what you'd expect, but still fine for a club being built from scratch. Sorta like PSG seem to be establishing themselves as.

Citeh though aren't building their team to win in europe. It helps them win on the island, but in the CL they can never get all of their best players to click because they've built the team wrong without ever properly figuring out how to compensate for Yaya being Yaya. They've got that Juve and Zenit dilemma where their squad is built up to grind through their leagues without skipping a beat, even when injuries strike. But the pieces aren't put together in a way that lets them all thrive against the best of opposition.

[No_20]

If PSG had MCity's draws they wouldnt do sh*t in CL either. They lost every time they faced a good team.

[Foye]

Chelsea have been one of the most consistently successful clubs in the CL since 2003-2004 over the likes of Real Madrid

Consistent, yes. But they also f*cked it up a lot of times in the semi final or even final which is underwhelming for all the money invested in the first decade of the 2000s.

When they finally won it nobody thought they were good enough to win it anymore. In the mid 00s everyone thought it was only a matter of a couple years until they win it but every year they fell short...until they benefitted from one of the largest chokejobs in modern soccer history.

[treiz]

So on one hand if a person says that this spending is not good, and also points out that the teams that are overspending haven't had good results, then don't both arguments cancel each other out? If they aren't doing as good as you think they are then what's the problem?

Exactly it's their money, let them spend it. Some clubs out there would love to have the spending power that City has, just ask the whole of North London.

Also with City/Chelsea/PSG etc everybody knows that they have a boatload of money so teams are always going to try and get the best price for their players. It's just how negotiations work: Swansea had no need to sell arguably their best player, they are financially stable and decided to put up a price they deemed would be way over the market value and would make City back down, but City decided it was worth to overpay, especially because it's in January and although he'll miss a month due to ACON, he'll be eligible for the CL and with Aguero/Dzeko down and Jovetic still finding his feet, they felt that they needed to make this move.

If anything Swansea should be praised.

[Det the Threat]

When they finally won it nobody thought they were good enough to win it anymore. In the mid 00s everyone thought it was only a matter of a couple years until they win it but every year they fell short...until they benefitted from one of the largest chokejobs in modern soccer history.

To be fair, they lost a final on penalties and were screwed by the refs in that one semifinal(I think 2009) against Barca, when they didn't get a deserved penalty and te spaniards scored the deciding goal in extra time, after being outplayed by a Chelsea side featuring Ballack.

[Foye]

When they finally won it nobody thought they were good enough to win it anymore. In the mid 00s everyone thought it was only a matter of a couple years until they win it but every year they fell short...until they benefitted from one of the largest chokejobs in modern soccer history.

To be fair, they lost a final on penalties and were screwed by the refs in that one semifinal(I think 2009) against Barca, when they didn't get a deserved penalty and te spaniards scored the deciding goal in extra time, after being outplayed by a Chelsea side featuring Ballack.

One year they got screwed by Ovrebo yes. The rest of the years they basically f*cked up themselves, though.

[MaliBrah]

that luis garcia ghost goal too lol , dont know what i'd do if that knocked arsenal out of a CL semi. might've broke my tv

[5DOM]

If City get deducted points for dealing with third party ownership, how awesome would that beeee

[and1GS]

Not sure if its been mentioned, but Ben Arfa off to Nice...crazy.

[5DOM]

I'm surprised anyone was interested in him

[magik9113]

Eto'o possibly to Sampdoria

[J-Mezzy]

Samporia busy. They signed uriel and are rumored to be after Eto and Ibarbo.

[Man of Steel]

Ancelotti said he's not interested in Pogba? Well, just let's say that it's a white lie because that's what it is. Ancelotti was trying to be professional and avoid tapping up our players, so I'm going to tap them up for him.

The only tapping up that's been done is Zizou saying all great players end up at Madrid, and even that's pretty tame.

[Baphomet]

To be fair, as much as I absolutely loved him as a player, Zidane should really shut his mouth when it pertains to transfers. He probably played a part in driving Bale's price up simply with his over-the-top praise comparing him to Ronaldo and Messi, saying Madrid should get him at all costs.

Must be awful nice for you and others Madridistas, Man of Steel. Huge talent goes on the market and it's pretty much assumed that you'll get them, you jammy bastards. I'd piss my pants if Spurs ever got linked with the likes of Reus and Pogba, let alone sign them.