2015-16 English Premier League Discussion Thread

[Rasho Brezec]

But seriously, what is Newcastle doing? This is the worst I've seen a team play all season.

Villa saw this post and took it as a challenge

A team that has David Cameron and Prince William as part of their fanbase deserves to go down.

I understand the pigf***er, but what's Prince William done?

[El Turco]

By far, the best league in the world.

you lost the plot

[Fury]

Arsenal are a c*nt of a club. How is a club with zero European Cups the most supported London team.

I didn't know frontrunners were the real fans.

Your salty tears taste great.

What a game, and Wenger is a genius for putting Welbeck in.

[magik9113]

Welbeck should play more

[No_20]

Villa saw this post and took it as a challenge

A team that has David Cameron and Prince William as part of their fanbase deserves to go down.

I understand the pigf***er, but what's Prince William done?

I am a proud Republican so I hate everything related to the royal family.

[MaliBrah]

Welbeck should play more

He's just come back from like 10 months out that was his first action in ages. He'll see more time. It's good to have another option again. We literally had nothing on the bench for 2 months lol

[DD12]

Wenger is a genius for putting Welbeck in.

Genius? Lmaoooo.

Yes he is genius at losing every year but good at winning fourth trophy.

No_20 said everything right. Arsenal has 0 European Champions League title even though they are in the most popular city in Europe to attract all the good players and They have **** loads of money too.

[Fury]

Wenger is a genius for putting Welbeck in.

Genius? Lmaoooo.

Yes he is genius at losing every year but good at winning fourth trophy.

No_20 said everything right. Arsenal has 0 European Champions League title even though they are in the most popular city in Europe to attract all the good players and They have **** loads of money too.

What does that have to do with today? You know what's another **** team? Galatasaray. Also irrelevant but **** them.

And no.20 roots for a team named after herpes

[DD12]

Wenger is a genius for putting Welbeck in.

Genius? Lmaoooo.

Yes he is genius at losing every year but good at winning fourth trophy.

No_20 said everything right. Arsenal has 0 European Champions League title even though they are in the most popular city in Europe to attract all the good players and They have **** loads of money too.

What does that have to do with today? You know what's another **** team? Galatasaray. Also irrelevant but **** them.

And no.20 roots for a team named after herpes

Are you drunk? Look at the no_20's quote on your post.

Gala haha at least Gala is winning something. And also we beat your crappy team in 2000 to get uefa cup lmaooo

[Fury]

Genius? Lmaoooo.

Yes he is genius at losing every year but good at winning fourth trophy.

No_20 said everything right. Arsenal has 0 European Champions League title even though they are in the most popular city in Europe to attract all the good players and They have **** loads of money too.

What does that have to do with today? You know what's another **** team? Galatasaray. Also irrelevant but **** them.

And no.20 roots for a team named after herpes

Are you drunk? Look at the no_20's quote on your post.

Gala haha at least Gala is winning something. And also we beat your crappy team in 2000 to get uefa cup lmaooo

Last time Arsenal played gala, your fans tried burning down the field cause of how pathetic y'all played

[DD12]

Last time Arsenal played gala, your fans tried burning down the field cause of how pathetic y'all played

So what? You guys will do the same against Barca

[J-Mezzy]

Best league?? Laawwlls

[El Turco]

if anything this season magnified the mediocrity of teams like united, city and chelsea. leicester and tottenham are feel good stories but they wouldnt sniff top 3 in la liga.

[Merc_Porto]

Again, is not about the top teams, is about the whole league. The excitment of the games.

Do i rather watch a Barca - Celta de Vigo or a Leicester - Liverpool ?

In one game you have 99% sure of whats going to happend, in the other game, you don't know. Simple.

[El Turco]

that might be the worst argument i've heard. i dont know what is going to happen between sixers and nets, doesnt mean i am circling their game on my calendar.

[Merc_Porto]

that might be the worst argument i've heard. i dont know what is going to happen between sixers and nets, doesnt mean i am circling their game on my calendar.

Wow, OK...

[El Turco]

yeah, try again

[Baphomet]

La Liga is the best league in terms of quality, but as an entertainment proposition it's lacking. In that sense, I can see where mercgold is coming from.

Spanish teams play a highly technical brand of football that succeeds in European competitions. On that metric, it's the best league hands down, no other nation since England in the late 70s/early 80s has dominated in Europe quite so profoundly as what we're seeing from Spanish clubs now (particularly Sevilla in the EL). Given that inter-league competition is the only method we really have to quantify the quality of a league, La Liga is the 'best'.

I just think there's more to league analysis than saying x team from La Liga would beat x team from the Premier League. Yeah, it's probably true that Barca would obliterate Leicester, or Atletico would beat Spurs, but to look at it like that is reductive and ignores the entire process of football itself. This season in the Premier League represents a triumph for traditionally middling powers over established giants. After a slow start, the games are extremely exciting now and we have the most open title race in decades. Compare that to the usual Barca/Atleti/Real dominance.

At which point, it boils down to semantics. Yes, La Liga is the most successful league in Europe nowadays, so it's reasonable to say that it's the best league in terms of its European representatives. But it's also completely and utterly boring. If it's a choice between watching Barca having 70% possession in every match and 30 shots to 0 or watching a determined underdog like Leicester counter teams to death, I'll take the latter every time. It's not interesting seeing a superstar laden team like Barcelona or Real roll over teams of only basque players or financially threatened clubs. It's passé. It's meaningless. I'm not saying they should let them win, it's just a boring spectacle. They're a joy to watch in the CL against teams that can actually threaten them, but the league itself? Dull as dishwater. The PL was like this too until a few seasons ago.

I would like to add that obviously entertainment is subjective and all that's just my opinion. To many, seeing amazing players like Messi, Suarez, Ronaldo, Neymar etc. operating at or near their peaks is hugely entertaining in itself (and I don't disagree). But more often than not the result of these matches is a foregone conclusion. So I guess it's like, football as an artform with x factors vs. football with an overall narrative, an unpredictability, something delicately poised. I can see the appeal of both, and I know they're not mutually exclusive either, because the two often come together in El Clasico, Madrid derby, the CL, etc.

[No_20]

It's all cycles. The Italian league was the best from 90s to early 00s, then came PL from the mid 00s to 2009 and since Ronaldo moved to Madrid and Pep made Barca a dynasty it's been La Liga.

Next season will be a turning just like 2004 was when Mourinho and Benitez arrived and made the league much better tactically so that they could compete in the CL. With 2 tactical masters like Guardiola and Allegri(probably) coming in + Klopp, Mourinho(likely), Wenger, Pochettino, new massive TV money to the smaller clubs, CL football to Leicester and Spurs which could attract some big players to those clubs especially Spurs because of the London factor and an ambitious club like West Ham moving to the Olympic Stadium so yeah I expect PL to be the main league in the world again and it could take many years before the La Liga or Bundesliga overtakes them.

Ronaldo, Messi and Suarez are all around 30 so Madrid and Barca will have go to through a rebuilding period like PL had to the last couple of years. You dont replace these all timers so easily. It took Chicago Bulls a decade after Jordan to become good again.

[El Turco]

using wide open title challenge or multiple contenders as a criteria for best league is a weird concept to me. why not call norwegian or danish leagues the best? they seem to have a different champion every other year. at the end main reason tottenham is doing so well is because traditional powers like manchester teams and chelsea looks alot worse, not because tottenham has gotten a lot better. so games have gotten more competitive because top teams have gotten worse, yet somehow that ascends the league to a better position?

it is one thing to enjoy type of football played in a certain league over other but calling epl the best league(BY FAR) is utterly asinine by every objective measure.