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Post#21 » by Shaazzam » Sat Aug 17, 2024 1:21 am

AK47MVP wrote:Watching Man U vs Fulham. Mount is such a mystery to me - why is he starting? what is he giving to the team? guy is just plain invisible. Fernandes with two one on one misses, just keeps hitting keeper.

He presses? Other than that I dunno.
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Post#22 » by The_Brecht » Sat Aug 17, 2024 12:21 pm

Baseline81 wrote:
The_Brecht wrote:Newcastle without European football could be a dangerous club for top 4.
That is, if they get to keep hold of Guimaraes and/or Isak.

Tonali is back from his gambling suspension, right?


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Post#23 » by magik9113 » Sat Aug 17, 2024 1:15 pm

The_Brecht wrote:
Baseline81 wrote:
The_Brecht wrote:Newcastle without European football could be a dangerous club for top 4.
That is, if they get to keep hold of Guimaraes and/or Isak.

Tonali is back from his gambling suspension, right?


Yeah, I think so.

Suspension ends August 28 so he'll be available for the game on Sept 1 vs Spurs
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Post#24 » by AK47MVP » Sat Aug 17, 2024 2:35 pm

Shaazzam wrote:He presses? Other than that I dunno.


I guess that is it in todays modern football, pressing is more important than creativity. I somewhat miss 80-90's football where dribbling and passing skills of midfielders was more of a priority over pressing.
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Post#25 » by The_Brecht » Sat Aug 17, 2024 3:54 pm

The refs showing off, matchday one.
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Post#26 » by wco81 » Sat Aug 17, 2024 5:26 pm

We haven't seen players appearing to be on the verge of fighting.

No wonder, a light forehead tap leads to a flop and a red card?
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Post#27 » by The_Brecht » Sat Aug 17, 2024 7:36 pm

wco81 wrote:We haven't seen players appearing to be on the verge of fighting.

No wonder, a light forehead tap leads to a flop and a red card?


And choking somebody who's on the ground isn't even worth a yellow card.
Never mind the *** grab.
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Post#28 » by MaliBrah » Sat Aug 17, 2024 9:42 pm

man I forgot villa got Onana .. next weeks game will not be easy and we weren't very good today. We are due against Villa though I hope LOL
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Post#29 » by Pipp33 » Sun Aug 18, 2024 11:20 pm

MaliBrah wrote:man I forgot villa got Onana .. next weeks game will not be easy and we weren't very good today. We are due against Villa though I hope LOL


Onana was fantastic in Game 1 for us and it was great to get a win first up, which doesn't happen very often at Villa, especially at West Ham (won once in 11 years there)

Next game at home against Arsenal is a big one, but that win against West Ham relieves some pressure with 3 points on the board.
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Post#30 » by LDNMagic90 » Mon Aug 19, 2024 12:23 pm

Pipp33 wrote:
MaliBrah wrote:man I forgot villa got Onana .. next weeks game will not be easy and we weren't very good today. We are due against Villa though I hope LOL


Onana was fantastic in Game 1 for us and it was great to get a win first up, which doesn't happen very often at Villa, especially at West Ham (won once in 11 years there)

Next game at home against Arsenal is a big one, but that win against West Ham relieves some pressure with 3 points on the board.
Will be interesting to see how long Maatsen is held back from starting. He was fantastic in his 25 minutes at the end of the game, but don't think he starts yet, as Emery tries to ease the changes, so there's not too much disruption in starting XI. Starting spot is definitely Maatsen's in the long term though.
Cash looks to have tweaked his hamstring again, so possibly start our young RB, Kosta Nedeljković, who looks fantastic, but that may be a big ask against Arsenal. But with potential transfer of Diego Carlos, that will be our only option...unless Diego stays



Or if we can get Geertruida/Chalobah through the door we might be alright. I like Kosta but he was nervy coming up on the last game. He looked very good during the preseason mind you.
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Post#31 » by Shaazzam » Mon Aug 19, 2024 8:22 pm

Jamie Freaking Vardy lol
Spurs are just so spursy
Let's see how this game finishes
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Post#32 » by Baphomet » Mon Aug 19, 2024 9:01 pm

Really annoying that we didn't win, Spurs clearly on top for 60 minutes with the opposition barely getting a kick only to concede a crap goal with Romero switching off allowing Vardy to score an easy header, then the usual nerves. It's getting tiresome.

Need to be far more ruthless around the goal, and show more defensive discipline.
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Post#33 » by Baseline81 » Mon Aug 19, 2024 9:15 pm

Baphomet wrote:Really annoying that we didn't win, Spurs clearly on top for 60 minutes with the opposition barely getting a kick only to concede a crap goal with Romero switching off allowing Vardy to score an easy header, then the usual nerves. It's getting tiresome.

Need to be far more ruthless around the goal, and show more defensive discipline.

In fairness to Leicester, Vardy should have scored twice, with the buildup to his second chance a thing of beauty.
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Post#34 » by Baphomet » Mon Aug 19, 2024 9:29 pm

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Baphomet wrote:Really annoying that we didn't win, Spurs clearly on top for 60 minutes with the opposition barely getting a kick only to concede a crap goal with Romero switching off allowing Vardy to score an easy header, then the usual nerves. It's getting tiresome.

Need to be far more ruthless around the goal, and show more defensive discipline.

In fairness to Leicester, Vardy should have scored twice, with the buildup to his second chance a thing of beauty.


Of course, but that comes after the goal when the game is already turned upside down, Leicester were certainly much livelier from that point and were getting on the ball. Prior to that, Leicester's only attempt was from the halfway line, and landed nearer the corner flag than the goal. They had touched the ball once in Spurs' box. Which is my main grievance, the lack of nous, game management, etc. Very soft to cough the game up under no real pressure, and could even have lost with that second chance as you noted.

Still, it's early days and an away point is fine. It's just a stinger with more difficult fixtures coming up.
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Post#35 » by Foye » Mon Aug 19, 2024 10:20 pm

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Post#36 » by Baphomet » Mon Aug 19, 2024 10:55 pm

Being an England and Spurs fan is the worst torture I swear, being clowned by Vardy on day one of the season

Honestly wish I just supported Barnsley or watched cricket instead

Still, there's a lot of season to go so there's plenty of time for them to disappoint me more
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Post#37 » by wco81 » Mon Aug 19, 2024 11:05 pm

Thing about PL clubs with any ambition is that they're not going to develop young players, so even if a team isn't going to win or finish in the top 4, you can look for growth in young players, as you can in the NBA.

Instead teams will just buy players or poorer clubs which do have promising young players will sell them.


I heard on BBC Football Daily podcast that Everton may be in dire financial straits, looking for a new owner. They're heavily in debt and are moving into a new stadium but wasn't able to acquire any players over the summer.

I guess it would have to be some billionaire who'd buy it for vanity, assume all that debt. Everton has history and must have good supporters so potentially a turnaround story, if a new owner is willing to clean up the financial mess.
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Post#38 » by Pipp33 » Tue Aug 20, 2024 2:20 am

wco81 wrote:Thing about PL clubs with any ambition is that they're not going to develop young players, so even if a team isn't going to win or finish in the top 4, you can look for growth in young players, as you can in the NBA.

Instead teams will just buy players or poorer clubs which do have promising young players will sell them.


I heard on BBC Football Daily podcast that Everton may be in dire financial straits, looking for a new owner. They're heavily in debt and are moving into a new stadium but wasn't able to acquire any players over the summer.

I guess it would have to be some billionaire who'd buy it for vanity, assume all that debt. Everton has history and must have good supporters so potentially a turnaround story, if a new owner is willing to clean up the financial mess.


See your points, but disagree about top clubs not developing young players. Lots of top clubs have developed young players and for aspiring top teams, developing youth talent into top line players is the BEST way to compete financially and competitively.

Aston Villa have made a concerted effort since Emery arrived, to bring the collective age of our squad down (7 players that finished game against West Ham were 23 and under) and are focused on our Youth academy as well. In previous years, we were topping up our squad with 27-30 yr old players to remain competitive, but then losing money on those players as they leave or are pushed out. If you bring a young player in, under say 23/24, they still have time to further develop and either become the level your after , or improve enough to be a profitable sale to another club.

Making sure that our existing academy players and those that are bought into it, are developed to either be part of the first team squad or sold for profit is also important. This is part of the model that Man City have done so well over the last 10 years or so.
Yes, the bigger clubs may buy up academy talent from lower league teams, but they are still getting them in whilst there are teenagers. And the lower league teams still make some $$ of the sale.

The off field squad management and player sales/buys are as important as the onfield performance. It's more of a business than ever before and trying to abide by both PSR and FFP is a huge task.
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Post#39 » by Baseline81 » Tue Aug 20, 2024 2:22 am

Baphomet wrote:Being an England and Spurs fan is the worst torture I swear, being clowned by Vardy on day one of the season

Honestly wish I just supported Barnsley or watched cricket instead

Still, there's a lot of season to go so there's plenty of time for them to disappoint me more

Sorry, Baphomet, you're right, it's coming...
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Post#40 » by LDNMagic90 » Tue Aug 20, 2024 1:09 pm

Baphomet wrote:Being an England and Spurs fan is the worst torture I swear, being clowned by Vardy on day one of the season

Honestly wish I just supported Barnsley or watched cricket instead

Still, there's a lot of season to go so there's plenty of time for them to disappoint me more


Not too late to join the Villa bandwagon Baph :wink:

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