Official Chelsea FC Thread

[fatlever]

no sympathy. rafa screwed up royally that 1st week he was at chelsea. he had to have known the fans hated him for his comments about the fanbase when he was at liverpool. on his first day in charge he should have apologized to the fans. that would have at least been a step in the right direction. then again, it was idiotic of him to even accept the position in the 1st place and of course it was idiotic for the board to have sacked RDM. i place 50% blame on rafa and 49% blame on board and RA and 1% blame on the mean fans who chant for him to be gone.

"we dont want you here
we dont want you here
**** off benitez
we dont want you here"

and of course there are the results which have been poor, the team selections that have been odd, the rotation, and the lack of flexibility tactically as well as the sub choices which rarely have a positive impact.

i honestly think they could sack the team tomorrow and literally appoint anyone manager and the team would be better off due to the subtraction of such a negative presence. put john terry in charge for the next 3 months. put holland in charge. hell, put grant in charge.

the fans arent going to stop going after rafa. he is cancer that needs to be removed.

the board is insane to let this continue for another game.

[fatlever]

What are fans complaining about. This roster is obviously in transition. Good portion playing out of position too. Some too young like Oscar, some too old like Terry. 3rd place in league sounds about right

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now in 4th and 3pts out of 5th.

[fatlever]

If mourinho doesn't work out this summer who the hell is honestly going to come in? This chelsea job is toxic lol

from weaintgotnohistory

listing reasons why a manager will still come to chelsea after all that has happened

When it comes down to it, any potential Chelsea manager is going to be looking at several very appealing things when they are considering the club. Just off the top of my head...

Notoriety - With the Chelsea job comes plenty of publicity, and managing a club like Chelsea (even if it ends in the sack) is going to be good for your career in the long term. Being a former Chelsea manager has loads of prestige, and probably hasn't hurt anyone in the Roman Abramovich era.

Paycheck - The Chelsea job is probably going to come with a rather significant raise for every single person that might get the job. I don't know if you realized this, but Chelsea pay well.

London - London is one of the biggest cities on the planet, and probably is a big selling point for the vast majority of potential candidates. After all, who would want to live in Manchester instead?

Talent - Chelsea squad is absolutely packed with young talent already, and they could probably assemble a team that would be promoted from the Championship from their surplus to the requirements on loan. Stepping back and looking at things from a potential managers perspective, they'd be hard pressed not to be drooling when looking at the talent already at hand.

Deep Pockets - Chelsea spend to bring in top talent. They have for years, they do it mid-season if need be, and they probably won't be changing that pattern at any point in the near future.

Facilities - The training ground at Cobham is an absolutely world class facility, and it will be a massive upgrade to the facilities at all but a very select group of clubs.

Other Resources - I've mentioned once or twice that Chelsea have loads of money, and with that comes more scouting, better training staffs, travel, hotels, meals, and anything else that might make a managers job easier to do. Their really aren't limits at Chelsea at the moment.

http://www.weaintgotnohistory.com/2013/ ... nt-manager

[Slava]

They spent a fair bit over the summer and Abramovich suddenly thinks that adding that substantial investment to a squad that won the champions league beating 2 of the best European teams in the process should get him much better results than what he was right now.

Not sure where you got that idea, cause Roman's still backing Benitez despite him being the worst manager since the takeover. If he really thought we should be getting better results, he would have sacked Benitez after we lost to QPR.

Then what's the reason behind Di Matteo's sacking? Its not like he was doing any worse than Benitez and he actually delivered the trophy Roman was obsessed with.

[Slava]

If mourinho doesn't work out this summer who the hell is honestly going to come in? This chelsea job is toxic lol

from weaintgotnohistory

listing reasons why a manager will still come to chelsea after all that has happened

When it comes down to it, any potential Chelsea manager is going to be looking at several very appealing things when they are considering the club. Just off the top of my head...

Notoriety - With the Chelsea job comes plenty of publicity, and managing a club like Chelsea (even if it ends in the sack) is going to be good for your career in the long term. Being a former Chelsea manager has loads of prestige, and probably hasn't hurt anyone in the Roman Abramovich era.

Paycheck - The Chelsea job is probably going to come with a rather significant raise for every single person that might get the job. I don't know if you realized this, but Chelsea pay well.

London - London is one of the biggest cities on the planet, and probably is a big selling point for the vast majority of potential candidates. After all, who would want to live in Manchester instead?

Talent - Chelsea squad is absolutely packed with young talent already, and they could probably assemble a team that would be promoted from the Championship from their surplus to the requirements on loan. Stepping back and looking at things from a potential managers perspective, they'd be hard pressed not to be drooling when looking at the talent already at hand.

Deep Pockets - Chelsea spend to bring in top talent. They have for years, they do it mid-season if need be, and they probably won't be changing that pattern at any point in the near future.

Facilities - The training ground at Cobham is an absolutely world class facility, and it will be a massive upgrade to the facilities at all but a very select group of clubs.

Other Resources - I've mentioned once or twice that Chelsea have loads of money, and with that comes more scouting, better training staffs, travel, hotels, meals, and anything else that might make a managers job easier to do. Their really aren't limits at Chelsea at the moment.

http://www.weaintgotnohistory.com/2013/ ... nt-manager

They failed to mention having to deal with John Terry & his disciples.

[5DOM]

Then what's the reason behind Di Matteo's sacking? Its not like he was doing any worse than Benitez and he actually delivered the trophy Roman was obsessed with.

Poor result is what got RDM sacked, but it's pretty clear that Roman's changed his mind since then. Benitez admitted that a top 4 finish is the club's goal, and like I said, if Roman still thinks we should be getting better results, Benitez would be gone already.

They failed to mention having to deal with John Terry & his disciples.

Other than Jose and AVB (who couldn't get along with anyone), I can't really think of any manager who had much trouble dealing with Terry. Ranieri, Sven, Capello, Hodgson, Carlo, Hiddink, RDM, Vialli and Gullit all still speak very highly of him. I think Scolari's on good terms with Terry as well.

[Boognish]

I think the Terry situation is different under Rafa, as he's been plagued with injuries.

You Chelsea fans know more than me on the topic, but hasn't Rafa been sitting him to make sure he's fully fit? Having to deal with an injury prone, aging, discontent Terry is different than managing a prime Terry

Correct me if I'm wrong

[5DOM]

The players - including Terry - had never had any problem working with Benitez until after the City game. The only instance of a player being displeased with Benitez I can remember is Oscar being upset that he couldn't start against Corinthians. Terry's been often injured and rotated for quite some time now, and he didn't have much problem with Villas Boas or Di Matteo, so I don't know why anyone would think he's harder to manage now than he used to be. His off-the-pitch life is indefensible, but he's always praised as a great role model for other players (especially young players). If anything, it was Lamps who didn't like sitting on the bench.

[fatlever]

The only instance of a player being displeased with Benitez I can remember is Oscar being upset that he couldn't start against Corinthians.

im glad you mentioned this... i remember i was so shocked when i saw oscar wasnt starting that game. how could rafa not realize how much it meant for the Brazilians? he should have started piazon in that game as well, but at least that move is defensible considering piazon had barely played all season.

[Slava]

Chelsea operate in a different way. It is a culture of leaks, strategic positioning, undermining others. Not everyone but a concerted number, nonetheless. One of the players – his identity would be a grave disappointment to Chelsea's supporters – has been behind a lot of it.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog ... z-chelsea1

[5DOM]

I wouldn't be surprised if it's true, but if the journo wants to keep it a secret for whatever reason, I'll just assume it's garbage.

[Man of Steel]

[Ted Lasso]

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[Man of Steel]

Doesn't make much sense but Conte apparently stating that he would accept the Chelsea job I offered it this summer.

[5DOM]

Probably just wants a new contract

[Foye]

These 3 guys look like absolute nerds. Especially the one on the right bottom.

[fatlever]

what the hell was that crapfest yesterday? we dont care about supercup, dont care about world club cup, dont care about carling cup and dont care about europa. we'll see how much they care about fa cup on sunday, although it probably wont matter. we could play a+ game and still get run off the pitch of man u shows up. at least then players and rafa have no more excuses and can focus solely on finishing top 4.

[5DOM]

It truly was an awful game, but I didn't mind it all that much. Hazard was soooo careless with the ball I can only assume he wasn't trying. And the Liverpool trio of Benitez, Torres and Benayoun... Horrendous.

[fatlever]

if i thought about this performance in a vacuum, it wouldnt bother me too much. obviously the players are not up for europa and it showed. but this is the 4th or 5th time this year (if you include community shield) we have not cared about a trophy and basically jogged around a pitch for 90 minutes in a loss. its almost like the team feels that they are too good to try for any trophies either than EPL, CL and FA.

we have way too many games this year so its understandable we would prioritize. that being said, why not trot some youth out then for the games like yesterday? why is yossi starting over marin? why did lamps start over ake (who didnt even make the bench in favor of 4 defenders, including two right backs)? why not have islam feruz on the bench for when torres inevitably looked awful?

that might have been the worst game torres has played all year and that is saying something.

the team vs man united now is basically picked other than the center back pairing, which is always a mystery.

azpi.....cahill.....???.....cole
....ramires....lamps?.......
moses....mata......hazard
............ba...................

[trwi7]

Good news guys. I've decided to become a Chelsea fan.