UEFA Euro 2012 Group B (NED/DEN/GER/POR)

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Which two teams will advance?

Poll ended at Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:19 pm

Netherlands
21
40%
Denmark
1
2%
Germany
23
44%
Portugal
7
13%
 
Total votes: 52

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Re: UEFA Euro 2012 Group B (NED/DEN/GER/POR) 

Post#341 » by Foye » Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:55 pm

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Maybe it is the Robben factor? :D

Actually is a huge part of it. With Robben Mueller has to play inside where he's less effective and Kroos has actually looked better. With Oezil in place of Robben, Mueller can play on the wing, where he's much better, and you have that excellent central playmaker.


A huge factor is also that the game is completely different.

Bayern Munich is a great team in the open game. They're pretty much unbeatable when both teams try to attack and win the game. See Champions League.
However, they have trouble when teams play ugly and defend only. Which is in probably 90% of the Bundesliga games and they're a team that wastes a lot of good chances.

Munich would be wise to get rid of Arjen Robben and buy a striker that is dangerous in front of the goal but also good at creating chances. Rooney or van Persie are the prototype strikers they need but unachievable.

German national games usually are open games. Today, Netherlands needed the win and therefore attacked, too, instead of defending with 11 man. This also suits the Munich players more. More space = more chances.

I just wish they would take out Podolski and let Reus, Schürrle or Götze have a run. Each of those three is a better player than Podolski.
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Post#342 » by Point forward » Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:55 pm

SCHLAAANNDD!!!!!!

Huge win for us, and deservedly so - we were simply better. We gave the Dutchies a lesson in attack management - sometimes, 2-3 deep strikes trump 7-8 slow crosses. The last 10 minutes were tough, but you can never completely control all Dutch strikers. Crazy that we still can get eliminated (two goal loss vs DEN + POR wins vs NED) but we are REALLY looking good atm.

Curious how Boateng will get replaced: (a) Schmelzer comes in als LB and Lahm shifts to RB, or (b) Bender plays RB and Lahm remains LB. In any case, we will go full force - slowing down vs DEN would be stupid.

But for now, PAAARRTTYYYYYYYYYYY!!!

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Re: UEFA Euro 2012 Group B (NED/DEN/GER/POR) 

Post#343 » by Foye » Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:56 pm

Point forward wrote:SCHLAAANNDD!!!!!!

Huge win for us, and deservedly so - we were simply better. The last 10 minutes were tough, but you can never completely control all Dutch strikers. Crazy that we still can get eliminated (two goal loss vs DEN + POR wins vs NED) but we are REALLY looking good atm.

Curious how Boateng will get replaced: (a) Schmelzer comes in als LB and Lahm shifts to RB, or (b) Bender plays RB and Lahm remains LB. In any case, we will go full force - slowing down vs DEN would be stupid.

But for now, PAAARRTTYYYYYYYYYYY!!!

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Definitely Bender as RB. Löw won't change Lahms position. Also, Schmelzer is a relative scrub, IMO. The only reason he made it to the EC is because RB and LB are positions of weakness.
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Re: UEFA Euro 2012 Group B (NED/DEN/GER/POR) 

Post#344 » by BelgianMagic » Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:28 pm

SCHADE HOLLAND ALLES IST VORBEI !!!!!!! :D :D

Like in 2010, Germany's getting better every game .. Their defense & fast transition is really amazing to watch. As always, their mentality is great. Every single player sprints back to do his defensive task & when they've recovered the ball everyone knows exactly where to go and which lines they gotta run ..

Germany's been my favorite to win it all, and they still are .. If they really push offensively, they can beat any team in the league. I'm sure not even Spain could "tiki taka" theirselves past this defense without giving away a lot of space for Germany for a counter attack ..

And to imagine their 2 wings aren't even performing as they should (Poldi & Muller) ..
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Post#345 » by Slava » Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:50 am

Gomez's first touch on the first goal was lovely. Ironically reminded me of Van Nistelrooy. :lol:
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Post#346 » by Sleepy » Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:45 pm

I need to rewatch the game... watched it in Frankfurt with 15000 people, barely saw anything.

We won... I guess that's good. Uhhh, that's about it for my analysis.
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Post#347 » by TheAdmiral » Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:09 pm

It's amazing how Germany was able to dominate the midfield battle with so much ease. I was hoping for a more exciting match, too bad the Netherlands couldn't keep up. They made so many mistakes, just awful.

The Germans weren't even going full throttle. Props to Gomez for scoring two (great) goals.
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Post#348 » by Det the Threat » Thu Jun 14, 2012 4:09 pm

That picture pretty much sums it up. 8-)

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Post#349 » by MitchellUK » Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:50 am

Don't know if anyone's posted this, but it's awesome:

http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/oddballs/9 ... z1xmfLUZlM
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Post#350 » by magik9113 » Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:34 pm

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Post#351 » by 5DOM » Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:55 pm

Tie breaking should be fun if Germany and Netherlands win tomorrow.
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Post#352 » by AdamTheGreek » Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:57 pm

Really hope Germany wins today. I want the Germans because I know we'll try and play our best. If it's the Danes, we may actually be favored and thus play lackluster and ****.
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Post#353 » by TheAdmiral » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:46 pm

Vlaar, Van der Vaart and Huntelaar will replace Heitinga, Van Bommel and Affelay.

Not sure if Portugal will change anything.
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Post#354 » by cgf » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:50 pm

AdamTheGreek wrote:Really hope Germany wins today. I want the Germans because I know we'll try and play our best. If it's the Danes, we may actually be favored and thus play lackluster and ****.


The Danes would be favored over the Greeks, especially if they beat Germany to take the group.
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Post#355 » by cgf » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:51 pm

TheAdmiral wrote:Vlaar, Van der Vaart and Huntelaar will replace Heitinga, Van Bommel and Affelay.

Not sure if Portugal will change anything.


Why hasn't Strootman played? Seems he would've been the perfect blend of defensive ability, to protect the back 4, and skill on the ball, to connect with the attackers.
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Re: UEFA Euro 2012 Group B (NED/DEN/GER/POR) 

Post#356 » by TheAdmiral » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:58 pm

cgf wrote:
TheAdmiral wrote:Vlaar, Van der Vaart and Huntelaar will replace Heitinga, Van Bommel and Affelay.

Not sure if Portugal will change anything.


Why hasn't Strootman played? Seems he would've been the perfect blend of defensive ability, to protect the back 4, and skill on the ball, to connect with the attackers.


I honestly don't know. He should be playing instead of Van der Vaart.
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Post#357 » by 5DOM » Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:32 pm

Heard his form's dropped last few months.
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Post#358 » by kdawg32086 » Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:56 pm

This feed on ESPN for the Netherlands-Portugal is terrible. It's forcing me to watch Germany-Denmark so I can watch a match without it crapping out every 30 seconds...
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Post#359 » by MadCityBucky » Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:56 pm

What a goal by the captain
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Post#360 » by 5DOM » Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:56 pm

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