2019-20 German Bundesliga Discussion Thread

[Foye]

please explain to me,
or share links,
about this
"as long as 50+1 is still there "

something about Germ league rules with $ and profits.

Thanks in advance

"The 50+1 rule (German: 50+1-Regel) is an informal term used to refer to a clause in the regulations of the Deutsche Fußball-Liga. The clause states that, in order to obtain a license to compete in the Bundesliga, a club must hold a majority of its own voting rights. The rule is designed to ensure that the club's members retain overall control, protecting clubs from the influence of external investors."

Makes Bundesliga teams relatively unattractive for investors as they would not be able to dictate the daily business owning less than 50% of the club.

Although there are certain loopholes within the rules...clubs like Leipzig (Red Bull), Hoffenheim (controlled by long-time sponsor Hopp - SAP owner), Leverkusen (Bayer), Wolfsburg (VW) definitely have a competitive advantage with their strong investors. If it wasn't for the sponsors - they would all be irrelevant. Maybe not even in the league.

I have been in favour of just dropping the 50+1 rule because it gives the clubs that already have investors as mentioned above a competitive advantage over those that don't have an investor. Additionally, 50+1 also contributes to the Bayern monopoly as it limits teams abilities to generate money to invest.

[Det the Threat]

We just signed Embolo.

The schedule's out as well.
Opening game will be Bayern vs Hertha.

[JohnPferdelack]

Does anybody know why BMW wanted an opt-out clause in the negotiations with Bayern?

[Foye]

Idk but it’s a pretty bad look for them.

Maybe wanted to save some money for upcoming penalties due to manipulation of emissions lol.

[JohnPferdelack]

Maybe wanted to save some money for upcoming penalties due to manipulation of emissions lol.

lol



btw.:

Read on Twitter

[Foye]

Maybe wanted to save some money for upcoming penalties due to manipulation of emissions lol.

lol



btw.:

Read on Twitter

Bayern should‘ve signed Pepe from Lille months ago when they were in clear pole position for him for 70 mil.
However, it’s pretty clear they just used him as negotiation to show City they are not desperate to sign Leroy Sane and wanted to drop Sanes price.

Obviously Pepe‘s management has understood that by now and Bayern are no longer in the pole position.

And Pepe himself is probably a better player than Sane tbh. Pretty dumb decision making by Bayern.

Internationally speaking, Bayern has dropped out of the tier one of European super teams. Only two world class wingers and a world class striker will be able to change it. Lewandowski (not anymore - needs way too many chances to score), Coman and Gnabry...they are all not world class.

[ZoLo]

Haller is a big loss for us. I hope Bobic has an idea how to fill that hole.

[Foye]

Haller is a big loss for us. I hope Bobic has an idea how to fill that hole.

Rebic, Paciencia, Joveljic, Kostic and Gacinovic is still a decent offense.

Should sign another quality offensive player while you have the money, though.

I think the signings of Sow, Kohr and Joveljic were pretty good.

Will be interesting to see whether Bobic makes Hinteregger record signing...I would definitely not.

Not sure why you are interested in Marko Rog, though? Just wait for Sow to get healthy again and maybe make a loan deal to cover for the time when he is not healthy.

[JohnPferdelack]

Does anybody know if the opening game will air on ARD/ZDF or now on DAZN Germany? Or both?

[Foye]

Dont know but its pretty cool that dazn took the rights from Eurosport. I already have dazn and didnt have that Eurosport player

[JohnPferdelack]

same here.
but they have the pl anymore. that's really sad.
the only things which i prefer are BL and NBA. do they also air NHL every day? do they still have ufc?

[Det the Threat]

same here.
but they have the pl anymore. that's really sad.
the only things which i prefer are BL and NBA. do they also air NHL every day? do they still have ufc?

You just have to go on their site and will find what they stream.

They still have UFC, Boxing, Tennis, all the other soccer leagues besides EPL and all US sports.
They don't show daily NHL games, but a highlight show about the games every day.

Thanks to adding those BL rights DAZN will now cost 11,99 € a month instead of 9,99 €, which is still cheaper than adding Eurosport on top of things.

BTW: Marcus Thuram will have his medical at Gladbach tomorrow and should be the next signing. Malang Sarr is still a tough one as Nice's playing hardball.
Though, it seems his contract's only for one more year instead of two like everyone believed before.

We also want to sell a couple of players with Michael Lang being the frontrunner in that regard.

[JohnPferdelack]

ok thanks. But i think i will wait until DAZN release their NBA schedule and then decide for a subscription.

We've only a few days until the transfer window will close and Bayern still really couldn't improve their roster. Assuming this state won't change, the upcoming campain could be very interesting at the top with Dortmund, Leipzig, Leverkusen and maybe also BMG with their new head coach Rose.

I personally reckon that Bayern's problem with acquiring very good players has mostly to do with the perception of Kovac and Brazzo. Both have until now really achievments. If Bayern had coaches like Conte or for example Klopp their haul on the transfer market would be much better.

[Det the Threat]

ok thanks. But i think i will wait until DAZN release their NBA schedule and then decide for a subscription.

There ain't no real NBA schedule at DAZN. They broadcast about 3 games a week(and announce those games about a week before they're broadcasted) during the regular season and most of the playoff games.

We've only a few days until the transfer window will close and Bayern still really couldn't improve their roster. Assuming this state won't change, the upcoming campain could be very interesting at the top with Dortmund, Leipzig, Leverkusen and maybe also BMG with their new head coach Rose.

The transfer window in Germany ends on September 2nd, not like in England.
Bayern's certainly waiting for a couple of dominos to fall so they can pick up a piece or two that's left behind just like they did with Robben.

I'm also very excited for the new season but Rose's system will need some time(and we'll need another summer window to fully adopt the squad to his style) and I wouldn't be suprised if the start of the season's a bit rocky.

I personally reckon that Bayern's problem with acquiring very good players has mostly to do with the perception of Kovac and Brazzo. Both have until now really achievments. If Bayern had coaches like Conte or for example Klopp their haul on the transfer market would be much better.

Their problem is that they still don't know what prices you have to pay in this market(80 million euros for Sane? really?) and that most of the players they're looking for rather would go to City, Liverpool, United, Real, Barca, PSG or even Juventus(with Ronaldo there).

[Foye]

dazn is worth it from August till May...not a lot going on in June/July but you can make a break in your subscription.

While not perfect, because for every league their rights are restricted to a number of games instead of every game, I think 12 € per month is a reasonable price almost everyone can afford. And you have access to most top games in PD, Serie A, Ligue 1, NBA and now at least the Friday game in the Bundesliga

Just read about dazn on facebook though and if you click through the user comments there you get the feeling dazn is making them bankrupt...probably they have more than one streaming/tv subscription at the same time (I dont) and not an income well above average.

At the end of the day...12€ per month.
Even if you watch only 4 games a month. Thats 3€ per game...absolutely reasonable.

I‘m definitely a fan that they acquired the rights from Eurosport

[JohnPferdelack]

Schalke, Bremen, Munich and now Leipzig is interested in Monaco's Henrichs. They even consider to buy him, not a loan like the other clubs.
But why is a return to the Bundesliga so realistic, after that short time in France?
- Is he so bad that Monaco has to sell him?
- Does Henrichs no chance with Monaco?
- Does Henrichs want to return to Germany so badly?

[Det the Threat]

Read on Twitter

Now let's see if we can add Sarr as well.

[Foye]

Glückwunsch...

We should sell Gbamin and Öztunali for 35-40 mil and then invest 20 mil. in a new CB and winger.
Hopefully we keep Maxim though. Dude is a decent sub.


Ji already has the making of a flop. Dude is made of glass. Was to be expected he would insure himself.

[Det the Threat]

Glückwunsch...

We should sell Gbamin and Öztunali for 35-40 mil and then invest 20 mil. in a new CB and winger.
Hopefully we keep Maxim though. Dude is a decent sub.

I'm really surprised Gbamin hasn't been sold so far.
He should easily get you 20 - 25 mil from a premier league club.

Maxim has some solid moments, but just isn't consistant at all.

Ji already has the making of a flop. Dude is made of glass. Was to be expected he would insure himself.

He signed an injury insurance? Or did you mean injured?

BTW: What do you guys think of that Hinteregger situation?
I know he wants to leave and all, but that #freehinti creap an twitter from Eintracht fans just seems very strange, given that they'd go nuts if any of their own players would do something like this.

[Foye]

Glückwunsch...

We should sell Gbamin and Öztunali for 35-40 mil and then invest 20 mil. in a new CB and winger.
Hopefully we keep Maxim though. Dude is a decent sub.

I'm really surprised Gbamin hasn't been sold so far.
He should easily get you 20 - 25 mil from a premier league club.

Maxim has some solid moments, but just isn't consistant at all.

Ji already has the making of a flop. Dude is made of glass. Was to be expected he would insure himself.

He signed an injury insurance? Or did you mean injured?

BTW: What do you guys think of that Hinteregger situation?
I know he wants to leave and all, but that #freehinti creap an twitter from Eintracht fans just seems very strange, given that they'd go nuts if any of their own players would do something like this.

I think Schröder is holding out for more than 25 mil. and Gbamin doesnt have the smartest agent.
Other than giving interviews to newspaper that agent is useless.

The Hinteregger situation...not sure why Frankfurt really want to make that guy a record signing. Yeah, he performed well last year but he is 27 already and a defender. Not the type of player I would invest double digit millions on for the first time in my club history.