German National Football Team Thread (Nationalmannschaft)

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Re: AW: German National Football Team Thread (Nationalmannschaft) 

Post#401 » by No_20 » Tue Sep 8, 2015 9:39 pm

Foye wrote:I wish Neuer would get rid of that habit of complaining to the refs about every goal he conceeds. Cocky attitude.

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It's called Siegermentalität.

Kahn was the same. They just cant accept that they've been beaten.
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Post#402 » by Foye » Wed Sep 9, 2015 7:09 am

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Foye wrote:I wish Neuer would get rid of that habit of complaining to the refs about every goal he conceeds. Cocky attitude.

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It's called Siegermentalität.

Kahn was the same. They just cant accept that they've been beaten.


No. It's unsportsmanlike behaviour. Either the ref blows the whistle or he doesn't. Jumping around like a jumping jack after a goal is scored won't change his decision.
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Post#403 » by No_20 » Thu Oct 8, 2015 10:21 pm

Mr. Cathy Fischer gifting Ireland the winning goal. Another shocking performance.

I really hope that Jogi will bench this overrated clown soon.
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Re: German National Football Team Thread (Nationalmannschaft) 

Post#404 » by Det the Threat » Fri Oct 9, 2015 3:35 pm

No_20 wrote:Mr. Cathy Fischer gifting Ireland the winning goal. Another shocking performance.

I really hope that Jogi will bench this overrated clown soon.


Eh, you do know that Hector could've gotten him, if he ever tried, right?
Still, Hummels isn't looking all that good right now but I'm not sure who the hell Löw should be playing instead.
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Post#405 » by Foye » Sun Oct 11, 2015 8:10 pm

Cant believe what an arrogant scrub team they have become post WC 2014.

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Post#406 » by Andi Obst » Sun Oct 11, 2015 8:18 pm

Foye wrote:Cant believe what an arrogant scrub team they have become post WC 2014.


Without the WC title Löw's job could (and should) be in danger right now.

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Post#407 » by Det the Threat » Sun Oct 11, 2015 8:37 pm

Little Nathan wrote:Without the WC title Löw's job could (and should) be in danger right now.

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Well, I don't really know what Löw's doing right now.
It seems like the climate in Brazil really helped him, as he couldn't go full speed and needed to make some adjustments(set pieces, more balanced approach, looking to set up a solid defense, not having the team that up high on the pitch), which ulitimatly helped win the cup.

Right now he's playing really offensive minded and starting to forget about defense and counter attacks, which has the team suffering.
On top of that, the full backs are crap cause we've got no one at right back and Hector's pretty bad defensively.

He also stated that the EC are only there as a preperation for the next WC and title defense.
Should be interesting to see how that tournament will end for the team.
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Re: German National Football Team Thread (Nationalmannschaft) 

Post#408 » by cgf » Mon Oct 12, 2015 3:45 pm

I can't blame the WC winners for not giving a **** about this cycle. Qualifying for these euros is a joke and the only way our team wasn't going to sleep walk through this was if Jogi had rested most of the WC winners and let the fringe guys and kids fighting for PT to qualify. If we rolled out either

Reus/Brandt - Kruse - Volland
Arnold - Kramer
Gundogan

or

Kruse
Reus/Brandt - Draxler - Volland
Ilkay - Kramer

in front of the back 4 then maybe we'd have actually busted ass in these matches; but the WC winners could afford to sleepwalk through this cycle.

Now lets see if they've also developed the ability to turn on the intensity for the tourney like a veteran team; cause they certainly conserve their energy like vets.
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Post#409 » by Hellcrooner » Mon Oct 12, 2015 4:20 pm

mmmm lets see.
Why the F are people criticising low?

so far he has won one Wc fell to the better team of the world at that time in an euro final and wc semis and reached the semis in the other euro.

Basically the most consistent team in the world in the last 8 years ( spain screwed up big time in brazil).
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Post#410 » by cgf » Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:04 pm

Hellcrooner wrote:mmmm lets see.
Why the F are people criticising low?

so far he has won one Wc fell to the better team of the world at that time in an euro final and wc semis and reached the semis in the other euro.

Basically the most consistent team in the world in the last 8 years ( spain screwed up big time in brazil).


Do you think those results are impressive with the talent he has had? Or that they excuse poor team selection/ignorance to any clubs outside of the 5-6 that he relies on, poor tactics, and tendency towards cowardice in the bigger matches? This team should've won Euro 2012 and the WC in 2014 with a capable coach possessed of some minimal creativity; yet we only hold one of those trophies because of Jogi's litany of mistakes against Italy in that SF that we waltzed to, which you would have him praised for for some reason.

Jogi shouldn't be praised for under-achieving with what should be our second golden generation, just like Vogts receives no praise for the players winning euro 96 despite his presence on the sidelines. If Jogi doesn't win these Euros I hope he has the decency to step down; since I know that no one at the DFB will have the courage to sack him for failing again; though I know he won't and will stick around, hoping that the players are able to carry him to a title defense in Russia.
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Post#411 » by Hellcrooner » Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:05 pm

cgf wrote:
Hellcrooner wrote:mmmm lets see.
Why the F are people criticising low?

so far he has won one Wc fell to the better team of the world at that time in an euro final and wc semis and reached the semis in the other euro.

Basically the most consistent team in the world in the last 8 years ( spain screwed up big time in brazil).


Do you think those results are impressive with the talent he has had? Or that they excuse poor team selection/ignorance to any clubs outside of the 5-6 that he relies on, poor tactics, and tendency towards cowardice in the bigger matches? This team should've won Euro 2012 and the WC in 2014 with a capable coach possessed of some minimal creativity; yet we only hold one of those trophies because of Jogi's litany of mistakes against Italy in that SF that we waltzed to, which you would have him praised for for some reason.

Jogi shouldn't be praised for under-achieving with what should be our second golden generation, just like Vogts receives no praise for the players winning euro 96 despite his presence on the sidelines. If Jogi doesn't win these Euros I hope he has the decency to step down; since I know that no one at the DFB will have the courage to sack him for failing again; though I know he won't and will stick around, hoping that the players are able to carry him to a title defense in Russia.


Spain was still the team to beat in 2012.
If germany had eliminated italy ( wich always is a 50% odds game) theres no guarantee they would ahve beaten spain.
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Post#412 » by cgf » Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:31 pm

*shrug* A weaker german team would have beaten a stronger Spain in 2010 if Mesut had just gone down at the end of the first half when he was fouled in the box...or Mueller hadn't been suspended. Spain would've been favorites but I would've put my money on us to get it done...if we had a coach like Tuchel, Streich, Jupp, or Favre.
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Re: German National Football Team Thread (Nationalmannschaft) 

Post#413 » by magik9113 » Tue Oct 13, 2015 3:52 pm

Hellcrooner wrote:
cgf wrote:
Hellcrooner wrote:mmmm lets see.
Why the F are people criticising low?

so far he has won one Wc fell to the better team of the world at that time in an euro final and wc semis and reached the semis in the other euro.

Basically the most consistent team in the world in the last 8 years ( spain screwed up big time in brazil).


Do you think those results are impressive with the talent he has had? Or that they excuse poor team selection/ignorance to any clubs outside of the 5-6 that he relies on, poor tactics, and tendency towards cowardice in the bigger matches? This team should've won Euro 2012 and the WC in 2014 with a capable coach possessed of some minimal creativity; yet we only hold one of those trophies because of Jogi's litany of mistakes against Italy in that SF that we waltzed to, which you would have him praised for for some reason.

Jogi shouldn't be praised for under-achieving with what should be our second golden generation, just like Vogts receives no praise for the players winning euro 96 despite his presence on the sidelines. If Jogi doesn't win these Euros I hope he has the decency to step down; since I know that no one at the DFB will have the courage to sack him for failing again; though I know he won't and will stick around, hoping that the players are able to carry him to a title defense in Russia.


Spain was still the team to beat in 2012.
If germany had eliminated italy ( wich always is a 50% odds game) theres no guarantee they would ahve beaten spain.

don't bother reasoning with them. they believe Germany 2010-2015 is the best group of players ever to play the game and Low is the only reason they didn't pull a Spain and win everything
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Re: German National Football Team Thread (Nationalmannschaft) 

Post#414 » by Hellcrooner » Tue Oct 13, 2015 5:06 pm

magik9113 wrote:
Hellcrooner wrote:
cgf wrote:
Do you think those results are impressive with the talent he has had? Or that they excuse poor team selection/ignorance to any clubs outside of the 5-6 that he relies on, poor tactics, and tendency towards cowardice in the bigger matches? This team should've won Euro 2012 and the WC in 2014 with a capable coach possessed of some minimal creativity; yet we only hold one of those trophies because of Jogi's litany of mistakes against Italy in that SF that we waltzed to, which you would have him praised for for some reason.

Jogi shouldn't be praised for under-achieving with what should be our second golden generation, just like Vogts receives no praise for the players winning euro 96 despite his presence on the sidelines. If Jogi doesn't win these Euros I hope he has the decency to step down; since I know that no one at the DFB will have the courage to sack him for failing again; though I know he won't and will stick around, hoping that the players are able to carry him to a title defense in Russia.


Spain was still the team to beat in 2012.
If germany had eliminated italy ( wich always is a 50% odds game) theres no guarantee they would ahve beaten spain.

don't bother reasoning with them. they believe Germany 2010-2015 is the best group of players ever to play the game and Low is the only reason they didn't pull a Spain and win everything


Really?

Id take Any Germany side 66 until 90 over current germany any day of the week
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Post#415 » by Hellcrooner » Tue Oct 13, 2015 5:07 pm

Hellcrooner wrote:
magik9113 wrote:
Hellcrooner wrote:
Spain was still the team to beat in 2012.
If germany had eliminated italy ( wich always is a 50% odds game) theres no guarantee they would ahve beaten spain.

don't bother reasoning with them. they believe Germany 2010-2015 is the best group of players ever to play the game and Low is the only reason they didn't pull a Spain and win everything


Really?

Id take Any Major event finals Germany side 66 until 90 over current germany any day of the week
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Post#416 » by magik9113 » Tue Oct 13, 2015 7:26 pm

I exaggerate, but pretty much
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Post#417 » by truth18 » Tue Oct 13, 2015 7:36 pm

magik9113 wrote:
Hellcrooner wrote:
cgf wrote:
Do you think those results are impressive with the talent he has had? Or that they excuse poor team selection/ignorance to any clubs outside of the 5-6 that he relies on, poor tactics, and tendency towards cowardice in the bigger matches? This team should've won Euro 2012 and the WC in 2014 with a capable coach possessed of some minimal creativity; yet we only hold one of those trophies because of Jogi's litany of mistakes against Italy in that SF that we waltzed to, which you would have him praised for for some reason.

Jogi shouldn't be praised for under-achieving with what should be our second golden generation, just like Vogts receives no praise for the players winning euro 96 despite his presence on the sidelines. If Jogi doesn't win these Euros I hope he has the decency to step down; since I know that no one at the DFB will have the courage to sack him for failing again; though I know he won't and will stick around, hoping that the players are able to carry him to a title defense in Russia.


Spain was still the team to beat in 2012.
If germany had eliminated italy ( wich always is a 50% odds game) theres no guarantee they would ahve beaten spain.

don't bother reasoning with them. they believe Germany 2010-2015 is the best group of players ever to play the game and Low is the only reason they didn't pull a Spain and win everything


That's kind of true though, lol, and I have no love (or hate) for the German national team.

Low is a disgrace of a manager imo.
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Re: German National Football Team Thread (Nationalmannschaft) 

Post#418 » by cgf » Tue Oct 13, 2015 8:48 pm

Hellcrooner wrote:
magik9113 wrote:
Hellcrooner wrote:
Spain was still the team to beat in 2012.
If germany had eliminated italy ( wich always is a 50% odds game) theres no guarantee they would ahve beaten spain.

don't bother reasoning with them. they believe Germany 2010-2015 is the best group of players ever to play the game and Low is the only reason they didn't pull a Spain and win everything


Really?

Id take Any Germany side 66 until 90 over current germany any day of the week
:-?


Then you're letting nostalgia warp your reason. This team has more talent by a serious margin than any team we put out in the 80s and isn't as badly managed as the post unification sides. Obviously the first golden generation trumps these teams, but the talent is/was there for a second golden era.
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Re: German National Football Team Thread (Nationalmannschaft) 

Post#419 » by TeamTragic » Sat Oct 17, 2015 7:41 am

I love the experts in this thread. I'm sorry that you aren't coaching the DFB. There is probably a reason for that right? :lol:
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Post#420 » by DD12 » Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:42 pm

GoranTragic wrote:I love the experts in this thread. I'm sorry that you aren't coaching the DFB. There is probably a reason for that right? :lol:


Word. Lmfaooo

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