2015-16 English Premier League Discussion (Thread II)

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Re: 2015-16 English Premier League Discussion (Thread II) 

Post#401 » by Cactus Jack » Mon Apr 18, 2016 11:08 pm

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Cactus Jack wrote:What is Spurs remaining schedule?


West Brom (H)
Chelsea (A)
Southampton (H)
Newcastle (A)

You likely would have to win out. Still holding out hope?
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Post#402 » by MaliBrah » Tue Apr 19, 2016 1:29 am

Spurs will win the league aha , This might be the worst ever season as an Arsenal fan.

Also does anyone know if Gary Lineker is back to being a spurs fan again?? Looool
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Post#403 » by BUCKnation » Tue Apr 19, 2016 2:03 am

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Baphomet wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:What is Spurs remaining schedule?


West Brom (H)
Chelsea (A)
Southampton (H)
Newcastle (A)

You likely would have to win out. Still holding out hope?

I'm confident on our end. We'll see if they can cope without Vardy for a game or two, plus their schedule is a lot more difficult.
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Post#404 » by DD12 » Tue Apr 19, 2016 3:00 am

MaliBrah wrote:Spurs will win the league aha , This might be the worst ever season as an Arsenal fan.

Also does anyone know if Gary Lineker is back to being a spurs fan again?? Looool


When will Arsenal win something bruh?
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Post#405 » by HIF » Tue Apr 19, 2016 6:45 am

Spurs are playing the best football in the league and over the season they have been exceptional. I think they'll win the rest of their games in the season. Not sure that Leicester can get 2 wins and 2 draws or 3 wins.

Poch has been managing the team wonderfully.

Poch, Bilic and Ranieiri have easily been the top 3 coaches in the league with a mention for Howe too.
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Re: 2015-16 English Premier League Discussion (Thread II) 

Post#406 » by Baphomet » Tue Apr 19, 2016 10:40 am

Cactus Jack wrote:You likely would have to win out. Still holding out hope?


I'm pretty hopeful of a win out, but I'm wary of Chelsea. They will throw their final game against Leicester, but go all out against us. That odious little gremlin Fabregas was on Monday Night Football last night and said he didn't want Spurs to win the league.
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Re: 2015-16 English Premier League Discussion (Thread II) 

Post#407 » by HIF » Tue Apr 19, 2016 11:26 am

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Cactus Jack wrote:You likely would have to win out. Still holding out hope?


I'm pretty hopeful of a win out, but I'm wary of Chelsea. They will throw their final game against Leicester, but go all out against us. That odious little gremlin Fabregas was on Monday Night Football last night and said he didn't want Spurs to win the league.


I imagine they'll play well against both of us. No team is going to "throw" a game and certainly not the last match of the season in front of their own fans. They could rest a few oldies but they're not going to throw it.

You should beat them even if they go "all out".

As a Leicester fan I'm hoping that the good Southampton team turns up against you and that they and chelsea can at least manage draws, even then we'd still need two wins (or 1 and 2 draws).
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Re: 2015-16 English Premier League Discussion (Thread II) 

Post#408 » by treiz » Tue Apr 19, 2016 11:32 am

Baphomet wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:What is Spurs remaining schedule?


West Brom (H)
Chelsea (A)
Southampton (H)
Newcastle (A)


Pretty solid looking schedule, would love it though if Chelsea ruin your season like we did against Liverpool a couple of years back :D

HIF wrote:Spurs are playing the best football in the league and over the season they have been exceptional. I think they'll win the rest of their games in the season. Not sure that Leicester can get 2 wins and 2 draws or 3 wins.

Poch has been managing the team wonderfully.

Poch, Bilic and Ranieiri have easily been the top 3 coaches in the league with a mention for Howe too.


As wonderful a job the others has done, Ranieri has easily had the best season by far.
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Re: 2015-16 English Premier League Discussion (Thread II) 

Post#409 » by HIF » Tue Apr 19, 2016 11:35 am

I watched the Leicester West Ham game again this morning and that Ref just couldn't handle the pressure of a "big" game. Neither of the two penalties were penalties though I think there were 1 or 2 that could have been called easily at other times. The first yellow for Vardy was a complete joke.

Only this week a prem ref was removed from the Tottenham game in case of bias towards Leicester.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/kevin-friend-removed-from-spurs-game-due-to-leicester-title-challenge-but-previous-games-show-no-a6983856.html

If he had produced the same performance as the ref in the Leicester West Ham game in the Spurs Stoke game he would have been crucified.

The FA are however looking at extending the Vardy ban for his after the red incident towards the ref and sanctioning Leicester for the player's reaction to the penalty incident. Despite refs being abused by players of every team week in week out. What they should be doing is looking into the referee's competence and making clear guidelines for in the box incidents for next season. I'd like to see them bring in rules about players retaliation to match officials too - along the lines of Rugby union.
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Re: 2015-16 English Premier League Discussion (Thread II) 

Post#410 » by Baphomet » Tue Apr 19, 2016 11:36 am

HIF wrote:I imagine they'll play well against both of us. No team is going to "throw" a game and certainly not the last match of the season in front of their own fans. They could rest a few oldies but they're not going to throw it.

You should beat them even if they go "all out".

As a Leicester fan I'm hoping that the good Southampton team turns up against you and that they and chelsea can at least manage draws, even then we'd still need two wins (or 1 and 2 draws).


If it does come down to that final game at the Bridge, it will be a weird atmosphere. I'd wager half of the Chelsea fans would want to see you lot win, even on John Terry's final game, they hate Spurs. In fact, John Terry doing a Gerrard slip to give it to Vardy to win the league would be the most fitting end to that man's career I can imagine. :lol:

In all likelihood you will have won the league before that final game, so it's probably all for naught. I just remember the last time I wanted Chelsea to do us a favour (albeit in a much different context)... that ended with them lifting the CL. Even at their worst, they can pull something out of the bag.
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Re: 2015-16 English Premier League Discussion (Thread II) 

Post#411 » by treiz » Tue Apr 19, 2016 11:40 am

HIF wrote:
Baphomet wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:You likely would have to win out. Still holding out hope?


I'm pretty hopeful of a win out, but I'm wary of Chelsea. They will throw their final game against Leicester, but go all out against us. That odious little gremlin Fabregas was on Monday Night Football last night and said he didn't want Spurs to win the league.


I imagine they'll play well against both of us. No team is going to "throw" a game and certainly not the last match of the season in front of their own fans. They could rest a few oldies but they're not going to throw it.

You should beat them even if they go "all out".

As a Leicester fan I'm hoping that the good Southampton team turns up against you and that they and chelsea can at least manage draws, even then we'd still need two wins (or 1 and 2 draws).


Don't think Baph literally meant throwing the game, but with the season pretty much over for Chelsea they're more likely to produce a performance that they showed against City than actually go for it. Especially since it's the last game of the season and Hiddink giving games to younger players.

Against Tottenham on the other hand, them being a local rival there is actually some motivation there for the players like Cesc, JT etc. to turn up a performance. I'm certainly rooting for ruining Tottenham's title hopes, this could be even worse than the time we took their CL spot from them :lol:
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Re: 2015-16 English Premier League Discussion (Thread II) 

Post#412 » by HIF » Tue Apr 19, 2016 11:43 am

treiz wrote:
HIF wrote:Spurs are playing the best football in the league and over the season they have been exceptional. I think they'll win the rest of their games in the season. Not sure that Leicester can get 2 wins and 2 draws or 3 wins.

Poch has been managing the team wonderfully.

Poch, Bilic and Ranieiri have easily been the top 3 coaches in the league with a mention for Howe too.


As wonderful a job the others has done, Ranieri has easily had the best season by far.


I think you're right. He's done the same as Poch and Bilic with a lot less.

I'm particularly thinking of the defensive turnaround he has made for us.

Kasper is only an average prem keeper and our back four are old men. Morgan is a perennial Championship player and the other 3 are rejects from average teams yet over the season, they have turned into a fantastic defensive unit with the help of every other player on the pitch and Ranieri's tutoring.

If Leicester finish second I'll feel more heartbroken for Ranieri than the players. Those tears after the last win almost broke my heart. He's been ridiculed for a career which has been very good.

The City of Leicester will go into a marked depression. The euphoria there at the moment is unprecedented.
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Post#413 » by treiz » Tue Apr 19, 2016 11:45 am

HIF wrote:I watched the Leicester West Ham game again this morning and that Ref just couldn't handle the pressure of a "big" game. Neither of the two penalties were penalties though I think there were 1 or 2 that could have been called easily at other times. The first yellow for Vardy was a complete joke.

Only this week a prem ref was removed from the Tottenham game in case of bias towards Leicester.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/kevin-friend-removed-from-spurs-game-due-to-leicester-title-challenge-but-previous-games-show-no-a6983856.html

If he had produced the same performance as the ref in the Leicester West Ham game in the Spurs Stoke game he would have been crucified.

The FA are however looking at extending the Vardy ban for his after the red incident towards the ref and sanctioning Leicester for the player's reaction to the penalty incident. Despite refs being abused by players of every team week in week out. What they should be doing is looking into the referee's competence and making clear guidelines for in the box incidents for next season. I'd like to see them bring in rules about players retaliation to match officials too - along the lines of Rugby union.


I think your bias is clearly showing here, nothing wrong with that :D

I believe Vardy has already been charged by the FA so I think it's going to be something similar to Costa where he gets his ban extended to 2 games.

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I think you're right. He's done the same as Poch and Bilic with a lot less.

I'm particularly thinking of the defensive turnaround he has made for us.

Kasper is only an average prem keeper and our back four are old men. Morgan is a perennial Championship player and the other 3 are rejects from average teams yet over the season, they have turned into a fantastic defensive unit with the help of every other player on the pitch and Ranieri's tutoring.

If Leicester finish second I'll feel more heartbroken for Ranieri than the players. Those tears after the last win almost broke my heart. He's been ridiculed for a career which has been very good.

The City of Leicester will go into a marked depression. The euphoria there at the moment is unprecedented.


The same? Right now he's 5 points clear at the top of the league, and doing it with Championship players and PL rejects, building a cohesive unit from 1-11 is a fantastic achievement. I'm rooting for him and I certainly hope Leicester can pul it off. I always loved him when we had Ranieri as manager, just classy throughout and even did a great job here before Roman took over.
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Re: 2015-16 English Premier League Discussion (Thread II) 

Post#414 » by HIF » Tue Apr 19, 2016 11:50 am

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HIF wrote:I imagine they'll play well against both of us. No team is going to "throw" a game and certainly not the last match of the season in front of their own fans. They could rest a few oldies but they're not going to throw it.

You should beat them even if they go "all out".

As a Leicester fan I'm hoping that the good Southampton team turns up against you and that they and chelsea can at least manage draws, even then we'd still need two wins (or 1 and 2 draws).


If it does come down to that final game at the Bridge, it will be a weird atmosphere. I'd wager half of the Chelsea fans would want to see you lot win, even on John Terry's final game, they hate Spurs. In fact, John Terry doing a Gerrard slip to give it to Vardy to win the league would be the most fitting end to that man's career I can imagine. :lol:

In all likelihood you will have won the league before that final game, so it's probably all for naught. I just remember the last time I wanted Chelsea to do us a favour (albeit in a much different context)... that ended with them lifting the CL. Even at their worst, they can pull something out of the bag.


Sadly I don't think we'll have won the league by the Chelsea game but I'd really like that so that I could watch a game in a relaxed manner for the first time in a long while.

Worse than that it could come down to us needing to beat Chelsea for the title!! :-?

As much as I understand your thinking about the Chelsea game (we'd think the same of Forest/Derby), professionals just don't let that happen. Chelsea may well play some youth and they'll be playing without any stress or pressure. I can't imagine the stress that the City players are playing with at the moment.

I must admit I'd take a JT pass to Vardy for the winner :D

btw I think more than half of the Chelsea fans and most English and a lot of world fans will be pulling for a Leicester title but sadly that doesn't make it any easier or more likely.
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Post#415 » by HIF » Tue Apr 19, 2016 11:54 am

treiz wrote:
HIF wrote:I watched the Leicester West Ham game again this morning and that Ref just couldn't handle the pressure of a "big" game. Neither of the two penalties were penalties though I think there were 1 or 2 that could have been called easily at other times. The first yellow for Vardy was a complete joke.

Only this week a prem ref was removed from the Tottenham game in case of bias towards Leicester.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/kevin-friend-removed-from-spurs-game-due-to-leicester-title-challenge-but-previous-games-show-no-a6983856.html

If he had produced the same performance as the ref in the Leicester West Ham game in the Spurs Stoke game he would have been crucified.

The FA are however looking at extending the Vardy ban for his after the red incident towards the ref and sanctioning Leicester for the player's reaction to the penalty incident. Despite refs being abused by players of every team week in week out. What they should be doing is looking into the referee's competence and making clear guidelines for in the box incidents for next season. I'd like to see them bring in rules about players retaliation to match officials too - along the lines of Rugby union.


I think your bias is clearly showing here, nothing wrong with that :D

I believe Vardy has already been charged by the FA so I think it's going to be something similar to Costa where he gets his ban extended to 2 games.



Everything I write is biased. I was a season ticket holder as a boy in Leicester (Filbert Street) and I've followed them wholeheartedly all my life (I'm in my 50's). I hope that everyone reading realises that I'm biased and forgives me for that understanding what it is to be a football supporter.

I think the FA will wrongly fine him but I can't see them banning him. If they did that they could effectively be handing the title to Tottenham and even Spurs fans would prefer to see Vardy back against Manchester. We'll need him to play like he did against them in the first match of last season for us to get something from that match.
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Post#416 » by treiz » Tue Apr 19, 2016 12:03 pm

HIF wrote:

Everything I write is biased. I was a season ticket holder as a boy in Leicester (Filbert Street) and I've followed them wholeheartedly all my life (I'm in my 50's). I hope that everyone reading realises that I'm biased and forgives me for that understanding what it is to be a football supporter.

I think the FA will wrongly fine him but I can't see them banning him. If they did that they could effectively be handing the title to Tottenham and even Spurs fans would prefer to see Vardy back against Manchester. We'll need him to play like he did against them in the first match of last season for us to get something from that match.


I did say there was nothing wrong with it, we're all guilty of it :D

I don't know the FA has been known to make some curious decisions especially in recent times, I do expect them to do like you said and just fine him, since unlike Costa he's not a lunatic.
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Post#417 » by HIF » Tue Apr 19, 2016 12:22 pm

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HIF wrote:

Everything I write is biased. I was a season ticket holder as a boy in Leicester (Filbert Street) and I've followed them wholeheartedly all my life (I'm in my 50's). I hope that everyone reading realises that I'm biased and forgives me for that understanding what it is to be a football supporter.

I think the FA will wrongly fine him but I can't see them banning him. If they did that they could effectively be handing the title to Tottenham and even Spurs fans would prefer to see Vardy back against Manchester. We'll need him to play like he did against them in the first match of last season for us to get something from that match.


I did say there was nothing wrong with it, we're all guilty of it :D

I don't know the FA has been known to make some curious decisions especially in recent times, I do expect them to do like you said and just fine him, since unlike Costa he's not a lunatic.


He could be England's saviour :D :wink:
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Post#418 » by Baphomet » Tue Apr 19, 2016 12:23 pm

HIF wrote:Sadly I don't think we'll have won the league by the Chelsea game but I'd really like that so that I could watch a game in a relaxed manner for the first time in a long while.

Worse than that it could come down to us needing to beat Chelsea for the title!! :-?

As much as I understand your thinking about the Chelsea game (we'd think the same of Forest/Derby), professionals just don't let that happen. Chelsea may well play some youth and they'll be playing without any stress or pressure. I can't imagine the stress that the City players are playing with at the moment.

I must admit I'd take a JT pass to Vardy for the winner :D

btw I think more than half of the Chelsea fans and most English and a lot of world fans will be pulling for a Leicester title but sadly that doesn't make it any easier or more likely.


I don't mean to condescend at all, but no matter what happens now, you're in for some special nights at your football club. Can you imagine the likes of Barca, Bayern and Madrid at the King Power? Not to mention the prestige and monetary gain that being in the Champions League brings. To be honest, I wish it was United or Chelsea we were trying to overhaul for the title, because if we were in our more typical spot of fighting for 4th, I would be rooting for Leicester to win all the way.

As it stands, with the way this young Spurs team has played, I'm proud regardless of what happens. And I know we'll be right there again next season, likely with the added bonus of CL football.
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Post#419 » by HIF » Tue Apr 19, 2016 12:30 pm

Tottenham have just played 2 beautiful games. Watching them I feel that they are benefitting from the Leicester factor.

They've not been at the top of the table and they're not Man city, Man utd, Arsenal or Chelsea so they have had no pressure.

At the moment they are in a no lose situation. They seem assured of second with neither Arsenal or Manchester applying pressure from behind and they are not "expected" to win the league. Could this be the perfect storm with them taking the lead on the last day of the season.

I'm putting this is the context of being a Leicester fan, we know more about failure than success. About snatching defeat from the jaws of victory (look only back to our Watford play-off game less than a handful of years ago). Our greatest success is winning the fizzy cup under MoN.

Am I starting to sound anxious and pessimistic :-)
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Post#420 » by HIF » Tue Apr 19, 2016 12:42 pm

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HIF wrote:Sadly I don't think we'll have won the league by the Chelsea game but I'd really like that so that I could watch a game in a relaxed manner for the first time in a long while.

Worse than that it could come down to us needing to beat Chelsea for the title!! :-?

As much as I understand your thinking about the Chelsea game (we'd think the same of Forest/Derby), professionals just don't let that happen. Chelsea may well play some youth and they'll be playing without any stress or pressure. I can't imagine the stress that the City players are playing with at the moment.

I must admit I'd take a JT pass to Vardy for the winner :D

btw I think more than half of the Chelsea fans and most English and a lot of world fans will be pulling for a Leicester title but sadly that doesn't make it any easier or more likely.


I don't mean to condescend at all, but no matter what happens now, you're in for some special nights at your football club. Can you imagine the likes of Barca, Bayern and Madrid at the King Power? Not to mention the prestige and monetary gain that being in the Champions League brings. To be honest, I wish it was United or Chelsea we were trying to overhaul for the title, because if we were in our more typical spot of fighting for 4th, I would be rooting for Leicester to win all the way.

As it stands, with the way this young Spurs team has played, I'm proud regardless of what happens. And I know we'll be right there again next season, likely with the added bonus of CL football.


Everything you say is correct. And like you I'll be proud of whatever outcome we get, but after all of this time at the top and playing so well I (and many,many more) will be completely crushed if we don't win the title now. I'm not fooling myself that we'll even be in a CL spot next season. I fully believe that this next 4 games is it - for my lifetime. It's the defining moment for a Leicester City fan.

I truly believe that Poch and Spurs can win the title next season - they are the favourites in my eyes - your team is young and skillful and growing. It may not even need to add much for the CL and title runs next year.

Leicester are at the apex. Morgan and Huth are playing better than I thought possible but next year they will need to be replaced and they are not alone. We've brought in Demarai Gray and Daniel Amartey who I think will be great players for our future but I think we need the title and not second in order to get the other replacements and quality squad fillers needed to compete in Europe and at home. Top tier players won't be thinking Leicester is that desirable a City especially if we fail to cross the line first this season.
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