2021-22 English Premier League Discussion Thread

Post #521 » by **Cactus Jack** » Sun Mar 6, 2022 5:04 pm

UcanUwill wrote:Kevin with his second goal. Also, Foden is fantastic player, I hate Man City but man do they have talent.

United's defending is ****.

UcanUwill · Post #522 » by **UcanUwill** » Sun Mar 6, 2022 5:14 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:Kevin with his second goal. Also, Foden is fantastic player, I hate Man City but man do they have talent.

United's defending is ****.

I am Maguire skeptic, but City makes most defenses look terrible. The only guy from City that I am not sure about is Grealish, are we sure hes good?

Post #523 » by **Cactus Jack** » Sun Mar 6, 2022 5:24 pm

UcanUwill wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:Kevin with his second goal. Also, Foden is fantastic player, I hate Man City but man do they have talent.

United's defending is ****.

I am Maguire skeptic, but City makes most defenses look terrible. The only guy from City that I am not sure about is Grealish, are we sure hes good?

I haven't watched much of them lately. But City have soo much firepower. That Grealish just seems like another guy.

UcanUwill · Post #524 » by **UcanUwill** » Sun Mar 6, 2022 6:00 pm

Sigh, this was the game City should have lost points.

wco81 · Post #525 » by **wco81** » Sun Mar 6, 2022 6:06 pm

You look at that City team with all those players who led their other EPL clubs before they get sold to City, like Mahrez and Grealish and it's so unbalanced, the richer the club, the more it can snipe good players from other clubs and just get stronger.

It was that way with Juventus in Serie A winning all those consecutive league titles.

It's honestly worse than NBA super teams, at least the US leagues have salary caps and luxury taxes.

FFP is a joke -- did City miss any UCL seasons?

LDNMagic90 · Post #526 » by **LDNMagic90** » Mon Mar 7, 2022 12:13 pm

UcanUwill wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:Kevin with his second goal. Also, Foden is fantastic player, I hate Man City but man do they have talent.

United's defending is ****.

I am Maguire skeptic, but City makes most defenses look terrible. The only guy from City that I am not sure about is Grealish, are we sure hes good?

As a Villa fan I can say that he's a complete shell of himself... I knew him going to City he'll struggle because he is a player that needs the ball to run through him to be deadly. City have too many good players for them to just give Grealish the ball to all the time.

LDNMagic90 · Post #527 » by **LDNMagic90** » Mon Mar 7, 2022 12:19 pm

wco81 wrote:You look at that City team with all those players who led their other EPL clubs before they get sold to City, like Mahrez and Grealish and it's so unbalanced, the richer the club, the more it can snipe good players from other clubs and just get stronger.

It was that way with Juventus in Serie A winning all those consecutive league titles.

It's honestly worse than NBA super teams, at least the US leagues have salary caps and luxury taxes.

FFP is a joke -- did City miss any UCL seasons?

Pretty much, City found a loophole in FFP by selling loads of the clubs rights/sponsors to other members of family. For example their stadium deal is worth quite a lot I cant remember the exact number but that in itself helped their books. Newcastle will probably do the same and it's why they are trying to change the FFP rules now.

Unfortunately with football, a 'lower' team that has promising/good players will always find it hard to retain them due to gulf in finances between them and a bigger club. Whilst I get that most things have a pecking order, it just gets annoying because in the modern day it becomes rare that a lower team can compete and become good without having to sell most of their best players.

LDNMagic90 · Post #528 » by **LDNMagic90** » Mon Mar 7, 2022 12:26 pm

Rashford wants to leave United, which is not surprising. I can't see another Premier League team taking him, I'd imagine him going to Spain or maybe PSG? I think it's for the best, he hasn't been that great this season I'm not sure if he has fully recovered from his injury or not.

United needs a clean slate because the locker room sounds a bit toxic.

The_Brecht · Post #529 » by **The_Brecht** » Mon Mar 7, 2022 1:47 pm

Rashford just isn't that good.

LDNMagic90 · Post #530 » by **LDNMagic90** » Mon Mar 7, 2022 4:25 pm

The_Brecht wrote:Rashford just isn't that good.

I think he's still good, I just think he needs a change of scenery and united as a whole is so toxic right now its hard for most players to thrive as of now. United probably need 6-7 new players in that team over the next few transfer windows while shifting majority of that team out.

Post #531 » by **Shaazzam** » Mon Mar 7, 2022 6:11 pm

Man U should hire Masai as the head of everything

Post #532 » by **Baphomet** » Mon Mar 7, 2022 10:57 pm

Great performance by Spurs but seriously, how crap are Everton?

LDNMagic90 · Post #533 » by **LDNMagic90** » Tue Mar 8, 2022 12:15 pm

Baphomet wrote:Great performance by Spurs but seriously, how crap are Everton?

They seriously remind me of the Villa teams from around 2012-2016, they have somewhat talented players that have huge egos and are not willing to fight for the team. I can seriously see them getting relegated as it stands and if you were to ask me this at the start of the season I would've laughed in your face. On paper that team is far too good to go down. What a shame, but as they say you are never promised as spot in the Premier League.

The_Brecht · Post #534 » by **The_Brecht** » Tue Mar 8, 2022 2:53 pm

Baphomet wrote:Great performance by Spurs but seriously, how crap are Everton?

Tbf, they deserve to go down.

wco81 · Post #535 » by **wco81** » Tue Mar 8, 2022 5:42 pm

Going take awhile to complete a sale of Chelsea.

3. How much might Chelsea cost?
KPMG values the franchise at about 1.9 billion euros ($2.1 billion). The sheer rarity of such a franchise could make it more valuable to some buyers, especially to, say, a sovereign wealth fund willing to take a long-term view on the investment. Chelsea is one of the top teams in Europe and plays in the English Premier League, which is by far Europe’s wealthiest in terms of revenue. Clubs in Europe tend to be bought for two to four times revenue, which makes them cheaper than their peers among American sports franchises. (Chelsea’s latest annual revenue was roughly 435 million pounds, though that period covered the pandemic, when fans were kept away from most matches.) Potential American owners worry about the additional risks they face in owning assets in Europe compared to a more regulated system in American sport, which include the possibility of their teams being relegated from one league to another, less-lucrative one, and the competition they face from teams such as Newcastle and Manchester City, which have huge financial resources. Another issue for some is Chelsea’s comparatively small stadium, which has a capacity of around 40,000. Redeveloping the stadium is difficult because it’s hemmed in by a cemetery and housing; relocating is tricky because of the Chelsea Pitch Owners, a nonprofit organization owned by fans, which has to approve any stadium move.

4. Who might buy the team?
There are around 20 potential bidders in the process so far, according to a person interested in making an offer, who declined to be identified. It’s unclear how many of these will actually proceed with formal bids. Sky News reported that the owners of the Chicago Cubs Major League Baseball team, the Ricketts family, are weighing an offer, as is property entrepreneur Nick Candy, a lifelong Chelsea fan. Top teams rarely change hands in the Premier League. The last to do so was Liverpool in 2010, when it was bought by the Boston Red Sox owner John Henry. The deal was brokered by Martin Broughton, ironically a big Chelsea fan, who was hired by Liverpool’s then owners to sell the club.

5. How quickly can a deal be done?
Premier League chief executive Richard Masters said a deal could be cleared as quickly as in 10 days, although realistically most deals take longer than that. The 305 million-pound takeover of Newcastle United by Saudi Arabia’s sovereign wealth fund took more than a year to gain approval from the Premier League.

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wco81 · Post #536 » by **wco81** » Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:49 pm

There are some reports that Chelsea could run out of money soon.

Also they’re not allowed to negotiate with players whose contracts are set to expire at the end of the season.

Those players can potentially leave on free transfers.

https://metro.co.uk/2022/03/10/chelsea-have-nine-players-who-could-leave-for-free-after-roman-abramovich-sanction-16251818/

HIF · Post #537 » by **HIF** » Fri Mar 11, 2022 7:45 pm

wco81 wrote:There are some reports that Chelsea could run out of money soon.

Also they’re not allowed to negotiate with players whose contracts are set to expire at the end of the season.

Those players can potentially leave on free transfers.

https://metro.co.uk/2022/03/10/chelsea-have-nine-players-who-could-leave-for-free-after-roman-abramovich-sanction-16251818/

All of the players and staff are guaranteed to be paid. You clearly haven't read the ruling. The players without contracts will not make a decision until the end of the season, they deliberately ran their contracts down so that they could maximise their salary with their next contract where a fee isn't needed. They will go where is best for them and that has always been their intention. Nothing has changed.

Castle Black · Post #538 » by **Castle Black** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 7:36 pm

Welp.. Ronaldo sonned us with a hat-trick. That sucked. But I appreciate greatness when I see it.

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SgtPepper · Post #539 » by **SgtPepper** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 7:49 pm

^^^^The bigger deal than over-discussed pricing issues is what kind of owner (in the sense of investor class) takes over. Chelsea are 90+% going to have less freedom and sovereignty compared to the Abramovich sugar daddy years where they've consistently been invested into as a brand and football club without the pressure of investor returns. When ESL discussions were going on, Chelsea were the first EPL club to step away because they didn't need the better terms. If it's taken over by a PE fund or some collective of investors that's not going to be the case anymore.

Chelsea doesn't actually need to rush to sell either, as it's a pretty self-sufficient club in terms of cash flows. Abramovich could be passive with them driving the search, though it looks like he's hunting for another sugar daddy to replace him.

HIF · Post #540 » by **HIF** » Sun Mar 13, 2022 7:49 am

Castle Black wrote:Welp.. Ronaldo sonned us with a hat-trick. That sucked. But I appreciate greatness when I see it.

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I think this match just goes to show the new face of the Premier league. There are 2 or 3 big spending top clubs who are well run and guaranteed CL football; then there are the 3 clubs who are not so well run and inconsistent but with major financial backing in the form of super wages, who should fill out CL and Europa league most seasons. Then there are 3 or 4 well run smaller clubs who can challenge for Europa league on an intermittent basis, then 3 or 4 not so well run smaller clubs who could challenge if they sort out their organisation leaving 5 or 6 relegation battle teams whose drop payments mean they can yo-yo if they do get relegated.