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Re: Transfer Thread 2022/23

Posted: Mon Jan 9, 2023 7:41 pm
by HIF
SgtPepper wrote:
lambchop wrote:I mean not everyone wants to be a Sky Sports analyst or youth team assistant coach. He basically opted to accumulate a lot of additional wealth. If he invested his cash well/ didn't spend all of it, he could even buy Benfica once he retires.


You're thinking small. Ronaldo had achieved generational wealth by his early 20s because of how well he did as a footballer. This money will roughly double his career earnings, but doesn't improve his options over the rest of his career and life since the starting point was already very high. Working in football mgmt and investing in clubs are not that lucrative options for ex-athletes either. He's also stated ~7 years ago that he probably wants to leave football and go into movies and entertainment after his football career ended. I take that as the truth, because at this late and unstable stage of that career his statements will have to be political. His obsession with brand size metrics like twitter follower count, balon d'or, individual records makes more sense from that lens too. In other words, he's following the same career strategy as Pele, Arnold, and Lebron James. But all those guys managed it a lot better. To poke a few holes, how does going to Saudi Arabia advance his post-career? The viewership in the region is small so his brand will diminish and his contention for the national team will probably end immediately, and unless he has hopes of becoming a future Barcelona coach the more direct access to global Saudi investors and club pipelines won't improve his options. Both the MLS and China would have given him big money (though less immediately), more global brand exposure (meaning more annual and sustainable earnings post-retirement), and exposure to investors who drive the entertainment industry which would be more relevant to his post-career.



The guy can do whatever he wants. Not sure why so many people think they have the right comment, and criticize. Especially considering that he came from more humble backgrounds than most of the people crying.

Re: Transfer Thread 2022/23

Posted: Mon Jan 9, 2023 7:42 pm
by HIF
Baphomet wrote:Joao Felix signing for Chelsea. Good player but I don't think he's really the right type of player they need, in terms of where he plays, what the team is lacking and what he contributes, but we'll see.

They might need to spend another half a billion to finish above Fulham.


We can always hope.

Re: Transfer Thread 2022/23

Posted: Mon Jan 9, 2023 8:20 pm
by Baphomet
Meanwhile Pedro Porro, the guy who cucked Felix, might be on his way to Spurs. Sporting are demanding the full release clause of 45m euros, though, which I think would be a slight overpay.

Re: Transfer Thread 2022/23

Posted: Mon Jan 9, 2023 9:35 pm
by wco81
HIF wrote:
SgtPepper wrote:
lambchop wrote:I mean not everyone wants to be a Sky Sports analyst or youth team assistant coach. He basically opted to accumulate a lot of additional wealth. If he invested his cash well/ didn't spend all of it, he could even buy Benfica once he retires.


You're thinking small. Ronaldo had achieved generational wealth by his early 20s because of how well he did as a footballer. This money will roughly double his career earnings, but doesn't improve his options over the rest of his career and life since the starting point was already very high. Working in football mgmt and investing in clubs are not that lucrative options for ex-athletes either. He's also stated ~7 years ago that he probably wants to leave football and go into movies and entertainment after his football career ended. I take that as the truth, because at this late and unstable stage of that career his statements will have to be political. His obsession with brand size metrics like twitter follower count, balon d'or, individual records makes more sense from that lens too. In other words, he's following the same career strategy as Pele, Arnold, and Lebron James. But all those guys managed it a lot better. To poke a few holes, how does going to Saudi Arabia advance his post-career? The viewership in the region is small so his brand will diminish and his contention for the national team will probably end immediately, and unless he has hopes of becoming a future Barcelona coach the more direct access to global Saudi investors and club pipelines won't improve his options. Both the MLS and China would have given him big money (though less immediately), more global brand exposure (meaning more annual and sustainable earnings post-retirement), and exposure to investors who drive the entertainment industry which would be more relevant to his post-career.



The guy can do whatever he wants. Not sure why so many people think they have the right comment, and criticize. Especially considering that he came from more humble backgrounds than most of the people crying.



He says, without a hint of irony where he's expressing his opinion.

Re: Transfer Thread 2022/23

Posted: Mon Jan 9, 2023 10:03 pm
by The_Brecht
Mudryk should be happening apparently.
I hope we get another central midfielder in.

It's sad, but Sambi Lokonga won't make it at Arsenal.

Re: Transfer Thread 2022/23

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 4:24 pm
by Shaazzam
Baphomet wrote:Joao Felix signing for Chelsea. Good player but I don't think he's really the right type of player they need, in terms of where he plays, what the team is lacking and what he contributes, but we'll see.

They might need to spend another half a billion to finish above Fulham.

I really like him, but I'm kind of glad we didn't do the loan for him. Not quite what United needs.

Re: Transfer Thread 2022/23

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 5:41 pm
by fbalmeida
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Re: Transfer Thread 2022/23

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:45 pm
by LDNMagic90
Leeds are quietly doing decent business on paper, Wober is a decent player and looks promising.

Re: Transfer Thread 2022/23

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 8:22 am
by Foye
LDNMagic90 wrote:Leeds are quietly doing decent business on paper, Wober is a decent player and looks promising.


They are also going after Georginio Rutter who is a fantastic talent.

However, the rumored 30-40 mil. seem like an overpay to me. He is not consistent enough yet to be worth that amount.

Re: Transfer Thread 2022/23

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 10:16 am
by LDNMagic90
Foye wrote:
LDNMagic90 wrote:Leeds are quietly doing decent business on paper, Wober is a decent player and looks promising.


They are also going after Georginio Rutter who is a fantastic talent.

However, the rumored 30-40 mil. seem like an overpay to me. He is not consistent enough yet to be worth that amount.


He looks like a very good talent indeed, I would like him to stay in the Bundesliga a bit longer to develop more but these days players want to come to the premier league at the first chance they get lol.

Re: Transfer Thread 2022/23

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 9:25 am
by HIF
wco81 wrote:
HIF wrote:
SgtPepper wrote:
You're thinking small. Ronaldo had achieved generational wealth by his early 20s because of how well he did as a footballer. This money will roughly double his career earnings, but doesn't improve his options over the rest of his career and life since the starting point was already very high. Working in football mgmt and investing in clubs are not that lucrative options for ex-athletes either. He's also stated ~7 years ago that he probably wants to leave football and go into movies and entertainment after his football career ended. I take that as the truth, because at this late and unstable stage of that career his statements will have to be political. His obsession with brand size metrics like twitter follower count, balon d'or, individual records makes more sense from that lens too. In other words, he's following the same career strategy as Pele, Arnold, and Lebron James. But all those guys managed it a lot better. To poke a few holes, how does going to Saudi Arabia advance his post-career? The viewership in the region is small so his brand will diminish and his contention for the national team will probably end immediately, and unless he has hopes of becoming a future Barcelona coach the more direct access to global Saudi investors and club pipelines won't improve his options. Both the MLS and China would have given him big money (though less immediately), more global brand exposure (meaning more annual and sustainable earnings post-retirement), and exposure to investors who drive the entertainment industry which would be more relevant to his post-career.



The guy can do whatever he wants. Not sure why so many people think they have the right comment, and criticize. Especially considering that he came from more humble backgrounds than most of the people crying.



He says, without a hint of irony where he's expressing his opinion.


You obviously don't know who I am. :wink:

Re: Transfer Thread 2022/23

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 9:28 am
by HIF
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Is that 11m fee for half a season (plus all his wages)? The premier league has gone crazy. How can some teams do this and others can't afford to spend the money they get from selling players?

Re: Transfer Thread 2022/23

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 9:29 am
by HIF
LDNMagic90 wrote:Leeds are quietly doing decent business on paper, Wober is a decent player and looks promising.


But it's Leeds. If they stick with their style of play they'll never make the top half of the prem and always have the chance of being in a relegation battle.

Re: Transfer Thread 2022/23

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 11:19 am
by Foye
LDNMagic90 wrote:
Foye wrote:
LDNMagic90 wrote:Leeds are quietly doing decent business on paper, Wober is a decent player and looks promising.


They are also going after Georginio Rutter who is a fantastic talent.

However, the rumored 30-40 mil. seem like an overpay to me. He is not consistent enough yet to be worth that amount.


He looks like a very good talent indeed, I would like him to stay in the Bundesliga a bit longer to develop more but these days players want to come to the premier league at the first chance they get lol.


They got the $$$s in mind. :lol:

Re: Transfer Thread 2022/23

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 9:04 pm
by Baphomet
Wolves have signed Matheus Cunha for 50m euros on a permanent deal, because there was a clause in the loan deal that meant they had to sign him if he played three times. :lol:

Atleti absolutely worked them.

Re: Transfer Thread 2022/23

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 1:43 am
by SgtPepper
Atleti dominated the upside in the Felix contract update too. That could backfire though if Felix busts during the contact, though given how long the career mobility for mediocres like Morata and Lukaku went it would take some abysmal form to qualify.

Re: Transfer Thread 2022/23

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:20 am
by Foye
Baphomet wrote:Wolves have signed Matheus Cunha for 50m euros on a permanent deal, because there was a clause in the loan deal that meant they had to sign him if he played three times. :lol:

Atleti absolutely worked them.


Well he is not absolutely talentless but an absolute flawed player who is more busy with complaining than actually helping his team.

5 mil. is what is about right for him in my mind. So they only overpaid by about 45 mil.

Re: Transfer Thread 2022/23

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:50 am
by HIF
We are going to see stupid prices this next couple of weeks, I think.

Re: Transfer Thread 2022/23

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2023 11:37 am
by The_Brecht
Chelsea paying 100M and 8x times the salary Mudryk would earn at Arsenal.
Another player they don't really need.

What is Boehly doing? Just get a striker and a right back to cover for James. That's what you really need.

Re: Transfer Thread 2022/23

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2023 10:38 pm
by LDNMagic90
So many clubs in the prem need a striker, Moffi from Lorient looks like a good player and West Ham are in for him. I hope he doesn’t go there, would like Villa to go in for him as we are down strikers. Watkins could be out for a bit and Ings while is good, I’m not sure if his all around play will suit Emery’s style.