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Post#601 » by Tracymcgoaty » Fri Apr 4, 2025 6:24 am

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stormi wrote:We don't beat Spurs today and the season is over


Wasn't much risk of that. Terrible game, but Chelsea deserved the win, Spurs didn't create anything of note.

Honestly, a waste of 100 minutes of my life and everyone else that sat through it. This manager is driving me nuts.


And when Ange gets the sack the next manager will come and it's rinse and repeat until someone looks deeper and find that the obvious problems are cultural more than anything.

It's hard to win when losing is so ingrained into a teams DNA.

And i mean that not as a dig at anyone but as an objective fact.

Milan actually has the same problem right now. Our culture is in the gutter. New ownership and the sacking of Maldini and Pioli left this team in the gutter.
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Post#602 » by Baseline81 » Fri Apr 4, 2025 12:10 pm

Tracymcgoaty wrote:And when Ange gets the sack the next manager will come and it's rinse and repeat until someone looks deeper and find that the obvious problems are cultural more than anything.

It's hard to win when losing is so ingrained into a teams DNA.

And i mean that not as a dig at anyone but as an objective fact.

Milan actually has the same problem right now. Our culture is in the gutter. New ownership and the sacking of Maldini and Pioli left this team in the gutter.

I find this partially true.

If another manager came in and properly drilled those players, the results would be different. By how much, I'm not sure. But I can guarantee the club wouldn't currently have 16 losses in 30 PL games.

Watch a Tottenham match, the amount of space left in the middle is shocking, to say the least. Stubbornly playing a high line, even with the injuries, because it's "who we are," is ridiculous.

I'm very curious to know if Spurs fans would actually want to win EL knowing Ange would be back next season. He's been that awful.
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Post#603 » by The_Brecht » Fri Apr 4, 2025 3:29 pm

Baphomet wrote:
stormi wrote:We don't beat Spurs today and the season is over


Wasn't much risk of that. Terrible game, but Chelsea deserved the win, Spurs didn't create anything of note.

Honestly, a waste of 100 minutes of my life and everyone else that sat through it. This manager is driving me nuts.


I feel like the game against City last season was a breaking point between the fans and the manager.
The fans wanting and celebrating the loss just because that way Arsenal couldn't become champion.
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Post#604 » by Baseline81 » Sat Apr 5, 2025 7:07 pm

Aston Villa's win over Nottingham Forest tightens the race for top-5. A pity two of these clubs will miss out -- Aston Villa, Chelsea, Manchester City and Newcastle United.
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Post#605 » by KG Leonard » Sat Apr 5, 2025 10:09 pm

Pipp33 wrote:Villa have certainly not been great this season, but we are still in the hunt. A drop was expected with CL and a deep run in the FA Cup. That's a lot more football than we are used too.

Our January window business is the best I can remember for some time. Rashford, Asensio, Malen, Disasi and Garcia have all been valuable contributors and Rashford and Asensio have been absolute CLASS


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Post#606 » by KG Leonard » Sat Apr 5, 2025 10:15 pm

Baseline81 wrote:Aston Villa's win over Nottingham Forest tightens the race for top-5. A pity two of these clubs will miss out -- Aston Villa, Chelsea, Manchester City and Newcastle United.



Chelsea is chaos and would embarrass PL in champions League imho.
Newcastle has a coach made for the cups with his ultra defensive gameplay. Aston Villa I hope to see in CL because Emery is almost like their Klopp, he carries the club from bottom to CL ability. They don't have the resources to keep him or the new/ the young players he had raised to new levels. That's the whole romantic idea of the best leagues. Smart management and quality coach lift Aston Villa and Forest to top 5 in PL. :)
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Post#607 » by Pipp33 » Sat Apr 5, 2025 11:14 pm

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Baseline81 wrote:Aston Villa's win over Nottingham Forest tightens the race for top-5. A pity two of these clubs will miss out -- Aston Villa, Chelsea, Manchester City and Newcastle United.



Chelsea is chaos and would embarrass PL in champions League imho.
Newcastle has a coach made for the cups with his ultra defensive gameplay. Aston Villa I hope to see in CL because Emery is almost like their Klopp, he carries the club from bottom to CL ability. They don't have the resources to keep him or the new/ the young players he had raised to new levels. That's the whole romantic idea of the best leagues. Smart management and quality coach lift Aston Villa and Forest to top 5 in PL. :)


I disagree with Villa not having the resources to keep Emery.

Yes, is RM came calling, might be difficult to keep him, but Villa owners have LOTS of money and are willing to spend, but arm hamstrung by PSRT. We have increased revenue every year they have been owners and have made large strides in the last 12-18months. Yes, we'll have to sell some players along the way, whilst we build revenue, but that's only due to PSR. If we are competing in Europe, then a lot of players will be happy to stay, and we'll interest players like Rashford and Asensio (although I'll be surprised if either stay past this season.)

Emery also has complete control over the football department. He bought his own team of people in and they work together on all decisions.
He won't get that at somewhere like Manu (why would he go there anyway).
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Post#608 » by KG Leonard » Sun Apr 6, 2025 10:49 am

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KG Leonard wrote:
Baseline81 wrote:Aston Villa's win over Nottingham Forest tightens the race for top-5. A pity two of these clubs will miss out -- Aston Villa, Chelsea, Manchester City and Newcastle United.



Chelsea is chaos and would embarrass PL in champions League imho.
Newcastle has a coach made for the cups with his ultra defensive gameplay. Aston Villa I hope to see in CL because Emery is almost like their Klopp, he carries the club from bottom to CL ability. They don't have the resources to keep him or the new/ the young players he had raised to new levels. That's the whole romantic idea of the best leagues. Smart management and quality coach lift Aston Villa and Forest to top 5 in PL. :)


I disagree with Villa not having the resources to keep Emery.

Yes, is RM came calling, might be difficult to keep him, but Villa owners have LOTS of money and are willing to spend, but arm hamstrung by PSRT. We have increased revenue every year they have been owners and have made large strides in the last 12-18months. Yes, we'll have to sell some players along the way, whilst we build revenue, but that's only due to PSR. If we are competing in Europe, then a lot of players will be happy to stay, and we'll interest players like Rashford and Asensio (although I'll be surprised if either stay past this season.)

Emery also has complete control over the football department. He bought his own team of people in and they work together on all decisions.
He won't get that at somewhere like Manu (why would he go there anyway).


This sounds great and is what i wish for to happen.

I like what Emery, Monchi is doing with Aston Villa. Emery has bad history with PSG level teams, I'm sure he prefers club he can build like Aston Villa. I worry more about disgusting rich teams buying his players and make them die slowly in Chelsea,City, Man Utd. Good to know about Aston Villa's rich owners, hope they have the same ambitions as Emery, Monchi.

I'm a fan of PL and want to see more competitive seasons like this one and teams not owned by country level wealth thrive.
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Post#609 » by Pipp33 » Sun Apr 6, 2025 11:18 pm

KG Leonard wrote:
Pipp33 wrote:
KG Leonard wrote:

Chelsea is chaos and would embarrass PL in champions League imho.
Newcastle has a coach made for the cups with his ultra defensive gameplay. Aston Villa I hope to see in CL because Emery is almost like their Klopp, he carries the club from bottom to CL ability. They don't have the resources to keep him or the new/ the young players he had raised to new levels. That's the whole romantic idea of the best leagues. Smart management and quality coach lift Aston Villa and Forest to top 5 in PL. :)


I disagree with Villa not having the resources to keep Emery.

Yes, is RM came calling, might be difficult to keep him, but Villa owners have LOTS of money and are willing to spend, but arm hamstrung by PSRT. We have increased revenue every year they have been owners and have made large strides in the last 12-18months. Yes, we'll have to sell some players along the way, whilst we build revenue, but that's only due to PSR. If we are competing in Europe, then a lot of players will be happy to stay, and we'll interest players like Rashford and Asensio (although I'll be surprised if either stay past this season.)

Emery also has complete control over the football department. He bought his own team of people in and they work together on all decisions.
He won't get that at somewhere like Manu (why would he go there anyway).


This sounds great and is what i wish for to happen.

I like what Emery, Monchi is doing with Aston Villa. Emery has bad history with PSG level teams, I'm sure he prefers club he can build like Aston Villa. I worry more about disgusting rich teams buying his players and make them die slowly in Chelsea,City, Man Utd. Good to know about Aston Villa's rich owners, hope they have the same ambitions as Emery, Monchi.

I'm a fan of PL and want to see more competitive seasons like this one and teams not owned by country level wealth thrive.


The Net worth of Villa's owners is 3rd in the league and more than Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal. Co-owner, Wes Edens owns the Milwaukee Bucks too, but Nassef Sawiris is the majority of the wealth.

Nassef personally chased Emery after the Gerrard fiasco, and essentially gave him control. The owners have also invested in Real Union, a small club in Spain that Emery's family has long ties with, and Emery owns, so the commitment to each other is there.

Nassef has regularly let his displeasure known regarding his restriction of spending money, whilst the already established "Big 6" seem to be able to do what ever they want.

Their ownership has been the driving force to Villa's turnaround. There has no doubt been some noses put out of place , as they have tried to increase revenue and club prices for nearly everything have gone through the roof (season tickets etc), but that is purely because without the increase in revenue, it's impossible to catch up. They put Chris Heck (former 76ers front office) in charge of the business side and he's the driving force to increase the incoming money side of things. He's not been very popular, but it's hard to argue with the improved results.

Being in Europe again next season (Europa or Conference if CL is missed) is vital to the continuing the increase in revenue.
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Post#610 » by The_Brecht » Mon Apr 7, 2025 12:47 am

That pen for Everton was an absolute joke.
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Post#611 » by Baseline81 » Sat Apr 12, 2025 4:56 pm

Nottingham Forest's loss to Everton has caused more intrigue for the remaining three CL spots.

Currently, the clubs three through seven are divided by only four points, which could lessen to three if Chelsea draws or wins tomorrow. Newcastle's game in hand gives them a leg up, though.
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Post#612 » by The_Brecht » Sun Apr 13, 2025 4:42 am

That tackle on Martinelli...how in the hell did they not give a red card?
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Post#613 » by Baseline81 » Sun Apr 13, 2025 3:07 pm

Very poor second-half display from Liverpool. Luckily, it was rescued by a van Dijk header.

Two more wins is all that is needed.
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Post#614 » by stormi » Sun Apr 13, 2025 3:57 pm

Yanited, you're already one nil down, but we need a favour...
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Post#615 » by Shaazzam » Sun Apr 13, 2025 5:38 pm

Battered. Uff, we're so ****. Hope we can get the result against Lyon. I doubt it.
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Post#616 » by stormi » Sun Apr 13, 2025 5:52 pm

Newcastle adding Cunha to this machine in the summer, wow.
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Post#617 » by Baseline81 » Sun Apr 13, 2025 5:56 pm

stormi wrote:Yanited, you're already one nil down, but we need a favour...

If you don't finish in the top-5...

Doesn't seem that long ago when Chelsea had the chance to go top of the league in December. Since that draw to Everton, you lot haven't been the same.

EDIT: Been watching more of Ekitike lately, he's outgrown Frankfurt. He's the sort of forward FSG and Edwards will target. He's on an upward trajectory and would instantly contribute more than Jota or Nunez.
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Post#618 » by stormi » Sun Apr 13, 2025 6:37 pm

Baseline81 wrote:
stormi wrote:Yanited, you're already one nil down, but we need a favour...

If you don't finish in the top-5...

Doesn't seem that long ago when Chelsea had the chance to go top of the league in December. Since that draw to Everton, you lot haven't been the same.

EDIT: Been watching more of Ekitike lately, he's outgrown Frankfurt. He's the sort of forward FSG and Edwards will target. He's on an upward trajectory and would instantly contribute more than Jota or Nunez.


Injuries derailed us. Lavia and Fofana went down, and we had to recall Chalobah who's below T5 league caliber. Jackson and Madueke then got injured and our attack became toothless.

All in all it's a disappointing season, but there are signs to build off of. We haven't seen this level of stability since Tuchel.

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More upset with recruitment in last summers window. We got way too cute. Olise in the door and we finish top two comfortably.

Also I like Ekitike, seems like an LFC forward. I do wonder if they'll pay what Frankfurt want though.
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Post#619 » by Baseline81 » Sun Apr 13, 2025 6:56 pm

stormi wrote:Injuries derailed us. Lavia and Fofana went down, and we had to recall Chalobah who's below T5 league caliber. Jackson and Madueke then got injured and our attack became toothless.

All in all it's a disappointing season, but there are signs to build off of. We haven't seen this level of stability since Tuchel.

More upset with recruitment in last summers window. We got way too cute. Olise in the door and we finish top two comfortably.

Also I like Ekitike, seems like an LFC forward. I do wonder if they'll pay what Frankfurt want though.

Lavia, really? I'll admit he seems a good player... when he plays. At this point, are you honestly banking on him ever being a consistent starter?

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From everything I've read, Frankfurt is asking for 60-70m for Ekitike, who scored and added an assist today. When you consider the other forwards we discussed, that's a reasonable fee. Cunha's release clause is similar, likewise for Sesko's price tag. Only one lower is Delap. Brighton Hove & Albion were quoted at wanting 100m for Pedro. The sale of Nunez, depending on if he goes to Saudi or another European club, will either cover or offset a significant portion. I can see Ekitike to Liverpool happening.
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Post#620 » by stormi » Sun Apr 13, 2025 7:08 pm

Baseline81 wrote:
stormi wrote:Injuries derailed us. Lavia and Fofana went down, and we had to recall Chalobah who's below T5 league caliber. Jackson and Madueke then got injured and our attack became toothless.

All in all it's a disappointing season, but there are signs to build off of. We haven't seen this level of stability since Tuchel.

More upset with recruitment in last summers window. We got way too cute. Olise in the door and we finish top two comfortably.

Also I like Ekitike, seems like an LFC forward. I do wonder if they'll pay what Frankfurt want though.

Lavia, really? I'll admit he seems a good player... when he plays. At this point, are you honestly banking on him ever being a consistent starter?

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2024-25: 11 (Chelsea)
2023-24: 1 (Chelsea)
2022-23: 29 (Southampton)

From everything I've read, Frankfurt is asking for 60-70m for Ekitike, who scored and added an assist today. When you consider the other forwards we discussed, that's a reasonable fee. Cunha's release clause is similar, likewise for Sesko's price tag. Only one lower is Delap. Brighton Hove & Albion were quoted at wanting 100m for Pedro. The sale of Nunez, depending on if he goes to Saudi or another European club, will either cover or offset a significant portion. I can see Ekitike to Liverpool happening.


Lavia was our rock before he got injured and a reason for that recurring injury was him getting rushed back on a bad hamstring last season by Pochettino. He was apart of the spine that allowed us to overwhelm teams in the middle of the park.

Our most impressive run this season came when he was starting, that time when the media was begging us to declare being apart of the title race.

Between 10/27 & 12/08 we faced Newcastle, United, Arsenal, Leicester, Villa and Spurs, he started in every fixture but Leicester and we collected 14/18 points.

His profile is extremely rare, you just don't give up on these types of players. An athletic six that you can't press and has dominant passing range.

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I'll wait for next season for him and hope and pray for better fitness. We should also have Andrey Santos and Dario Essugo joining the squad so there'll be more robustness in the centre of the park.

I could see Ekitike going to Liverpool, he's an intriguing player. Personally I want Delap, and if not Delap then Pedro or Sesko.

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