FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022 - Semi-Finals & Final

[G R E Y]

Ref with a death stare and smile, gesturing with his hand across his mouth for the player to shut it lmao

[djsunyc]

there's probably going to be 5 mins of stoppage time so the coach didn't want to risk another 10 mins hence the subs.

7 mins of stoppage.

so dichamps made the sub with 12 mins to play in the half. that's alot of time. still surprised at the giroud sub unless he saw something he really didn't like.

[Dirk]

Absolutely disgusting penalty.

[EArl]

Argentina has built a wall.

[GSWFan1994]

Yeah it looked closer in slo mo than it did live.

The french player's elbow barely made contact with Di Maria, who them sold it and got what he wanted.

Argentina's players quickly put the ball on the spot to kick and put pressure on the ref, surrounding him, who then lacked the fortitude and calm to stop the situation and call for the VAR validation.

Just a disgrace, IMO.

Well the players are making any contact very obvious, I will say that. Another Argentinian player went down in pain on France's free kick after barely getting touched. That was worse and ref didn't fall for it.

In the PK case, O player gets benefit of space to play in. Have to be obvious of going for ball first and foremost in the box in particular.

Not saying you don't have a point, just that gamesmanship is a part of the huge stakes and I could see argument against the PK even if ultimately I see why it was called.

All of this could easily be avoided if the ref stopped the game for a couple of minutes and called for VAR confirmation.

You can't award a team a PK based on gamesmanship, a PK is simply awarded based on the rules of the sport.

A penalty kick given at the beginning of the match makes a huge difference in the outcome of the game, Argentina could afford to play more aggressively once they are ahead in the score (which they did, then Di Maria scored the 2nd).

Guess we should wait for the up close videos of that play, then.

[djsunyc]

griezmann absolutely invisible so far.

[rapstarter]

Dembele was an obvious one but Giroud was a bit of a surprise

[CalamityX12]

Wow why the subs at this point?

I think the French coach is rattled. There’s still a lot of time to play and Argentina has shown they can let teams back in the game.

Are the two subs by France the offensive quality?

[G R E Y]

Keep your tempers and heads in the game, France.

You flat out got outhustled and outcompeted and outclassed. Start with addressing that.

[Evenacus]

Elegantly steer the game in the right direction with that bogus penalty and few nice calls for Argentina. Second goal was very good, though. Disgusting and truly unnecessary, France was awful the whole time.
Let's see what will happen in the second half.

[Dirk]

Every game Argentina gets a penalty the fix has been in

I literally turned just turned the game off (I am watching with some delay, so only the 25th minute for me and just saw that obnoxious penalty).

**** Argentina and **** Messi. Not that the French are much better, but this tournament has been a massive joke propping up Messi for whatever reason.

[djsunyc]

Watch on YouTube

[GSWFan1994]

I seen much worse penalty kicks given.

Di Maria beat his man and when that happens you get the benefit of the doubt more often than not

Two wrongs doesn't make a right.

"Benefit of the doubt" shouldn't exist in futebol when now you've got VAR.

You are still crying ok… cool.

I know how you feel… I know the whole no era penal.

Far from crying here, Rasho. Come on.

I'm just enjoying the game.

Stop the ad hominem.

[rapstarter]

The french player's elbow barely made contact with Di Maria, who them sold it and got what he wanted.

Argentina's players quickly put the ball on the spot to kick and put pressure on the ref, surrounding him, who then lacked the fortitude and calm to stop the situation and call for the VAR validation.

Just a disgrace, IMO.

Well the players are making any contact very obvious, I will say that. Another Argentinian player went down in pain on France's free kick after barely getting touched. That was worse and ref didn't fall for it.

In the PK case, O player gets benefit of space to play in. Have to be obvious of going for ball first and foremost in the box in particular.

Not saying you don't have a point, just that gamesmanship is a part of the huge stakes and I could see argument against the PK even if ultimately I see why it was called.

All of this could easily be avoided if the ref stopped the game for a couple of minutes and called for VAR confirmation.

A penalty kick given at the beginning of the match makes a huge difference in the outcome of the game, Argentina could afford to play more aggressively once they are ahead in the score (which they did, then Di Maria scored the 2nd).

Guess we should wait for the up close videos of that play, then.

VAR reviews every penalty decision. They only interfere if there's a clear and obvious mistake. So even here the VAR effectively "confirmed" the ref's call. This has been the case since 2018 and it's not even that different from every touchdown being reviewed in the NFL.

[Blame Rasho]

In 2018, France was down 2-1 and scored 3 goals in like 15 mins vs Argentina

[G R E Y]

The french player's elbow barely made contact with Di Maria, who them sold it and got what he wanted.

Argentina's players quickly put the ball on the spot to kick and put pressure on the ref, surrounding him, who then lacked the fortitude and calm to stop the situation and call for the VAR validation.

Just a disgrace, IMO.

Well the players are making any contact very obvious, I will say that. Another Argentinian player went down in pain on France's free kick after barely getting touched. That was worse and ref didn't fall for it.

In the PK case, O player gets benefit of space to play in. Have to be obvious of going for ball first and foremost in the box in particular.

Not saying you don't have a point, just that gamesmanship is a part of the huge stakes and I could see argument against the PK even if ultimately I see why it was called.

All of this could easily be avoided if the ref stopped the game for a couple of minutes and called for VAR confirmation.

You can't award a team a PK based on gamesmanship, a PK is simply awarded based on the rules of the sport.

A penalty kick given at the beginning of the match makes a huge difference in the outcome of the game, Argentina could afford to play more aggressively once they are ahead in the score (which they did, then Di Maria scored the 2nd).

Guess we should wait for the up close videos of that play, then.

I think it's been pointed out that VAR look at each of these types of situations.

I understand the momentum shift implications. But France has itself to blame for looking like, well, they're playing on a lazy Sunday afternoon.

[GSWFan1994]

Surprised Giroud got taken out.

Maybe he needed to clean up his nose?

[Evenacus]

There was some talk about some French players being sick due to virus. Unconfirmed info btw.

[Sedale Threatt]

Spoiler:

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I wish we could share screen grabs. The last angle, from behind, shows Di Maria's heel getting clipped plain as day. That's an obvious penalty.

[Dirk]

Well the players are making any contact very obvious, I will say that. Another Argentinian player went down in pain on France's free kick after barely getting touched. That was worse and ref didn't fall for it.

In the PK case, O player gets benefit of space to play in. Have to be obvious of going for ball first and foremost in the box in particular.

Not saying you don't have a point, just that gamesmanship is a part of the huge stakes and I could see argument against the PK even if ultimately I see why it was called.

All of this could easily be avoided if the ref stopped the game for a couple of minutes and called for VAR confirmation.

A penalty kick given at the beginning of the match makes a huge difference in the outcome of the game, Argentina could afford to play more aggressively once they are ahead in the score (which they did, then Di Maria scored the 2nd).

Guess we should wait for the up close videos of that play, then.

VAR reviews every penalty decision. They only interfere if there's a clear and obvious mistake. So even here the VAR effectively "confirmed" the ref's call. This has been the case since 2018 and it's not even that different from every touchdown being reviewed in the NFL.

This penalty would be reviewed in Europe. There's little doubt.

The ref/VAR would be roasted if this penalty wasn't reviewed.

The basic thing is to call the ref to check the replay and then he'd have to embarrass himself by standing with his decision of rewarding a dive or reverse it (the more likely scenario).