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Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022 - Group Stage 

Post#701 » by HIF » Fri Nov 25, 2022 9:11 pm

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Mamba81p wrote:I hope after this game, US drew at least some respect in England. There were plenty of **** in the media and on social media talking trash about US, talking about how many goals England will score. They can STFU now

I wonder how they feel about the guy who can't get a game for Chelsea being the most dangerous attacker for this game.


How many times did he score? You know it was Maguire at the back don't you? Was he the American who managed to get the ball on target?
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Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022 - Group Stage 

Post#702 » by HIF » Fri Nov 25, 2022 9:12 pm

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HIF wrote:I didn't see the match but I'm sure that Kane ran around off the ball and did nothing all game. England's game should be about pressure but with Kane it will never be. Looking at the stats it sounds like a truly boring game - a total of 4 shots on goal - 3 by england who are playing a second/third level nation.

Sounds embarrassing for England, the Mighty US and football in general.

Still England should be able to qualify alongside the mighty Iran now.


I'm only messing, anyway. Kane was okay at best, he held the ball pretty well and had a few nice moments of interplay, but not much else. I actually agree with you and think you're right.

One of the core issues is lack of midfield and imagination. Hopefully Maddison will help find the forwards when he gets fit.


Why didn't he bring Foden on?
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Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022 - Group Stage 

Post#703 » by HIF » Fri Nov 25, 2022 9:13 pm

Dirk wrote:It's quite simple.

The US need to beat Iran.

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England virtually through. For some odd reason, at the World Cups, goal difference trumps results between the teams, so Wales would have to beat England by like 4 goals to overtake them.

This explains the reason why England were perfectly fine with this result.


It's called the rules. Probably been around longer than the US. :banghead:
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Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022 - Group Stage 

Post#704 » by Cactus Jack » Fri Nov 25, 2022 9:14 pm

HIF wrote:england who are playing a second/third level nation.

Sounds embarrassing for England, the Mighty US and football in general.

Lol

If the US is a third level nation, I can't imagine what a country like the size of England would qualify as? :wink:
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Post#705 » by HIF » Fri Nov 25, 2022 9:14 pm

Okay that's enough ribbing from me.

Hope the US and Iran match is a good one, for everyone.
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Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022 - Group Stage 

Post#706 » by Baphomet » Fri Nov 25, 2022 9:18 pm

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Mamba81p wrote:I hope after this game, US drew at least some respect in England. There were plenty of **** in the media and on social media talking trash about US, talking about how many goals England will score. They can STFU now


Why would that game get respect? 1 shot on target, 0 goals, playing against a **** team from a country going downhill with less than a fifth of the population and whose education system isn't based on sport's based cheating. At least according to netflix. :lol:

Maybe US fans will finally realise that they really haven't progressed since Kasey Keller learned how to play football in Leicester.


The true heir to Kasey Keller's throne, Chituru Odunze, is coming. :lol:

To be honest, as much as my piss is boiled by that match, we completely deserve the ribbing today. Was a very poor showing.
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Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022 - Group Stage 

Post#707 » by Cactus Jack » Fri Nov 25, 2022 9:21 pm

HIF wrote:Maybe US fans will finally realise that they really haven't progressed since Kasey Keller learned how to play football in Leicester.

It's depressing. It honestly is.
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Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022 - Group Stage 

Post#708 » by ejftw » Fri Nov 25, 2022 9:23 pm

Disappointed with the result, especially with how England seemed content to just walk out with a draw, but sets up a great showdown with Iran.
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Post#709 » by Pharmcat » Fri Nov 25, 2022 9:24 pm

Team USA sucks . No progress made at all. So sad
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Post#710 » by wco81 » Fri Nov 25, 2022 9:26 pm

Expectations are high for England aren't they?

Lot of high-salary players on that team, young players who have prominent roles on top PL sides.

Didn't a lot of these players win the U17 or U19 championships a few years ago?

2020 UEFA Euro final was the first time in over 20 years that England made the Final.

Seems like the young core on the England team is stronger than the young players on Germany and Spain. Maybe Italy as well since they didn't even make this WC.
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Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022 - Group Stage 

Post#711 » by wco81 » Fri Nov 25, 2022 9:29 pm

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HIF wrote:Maybe US fans will finally realise that they really haven't progressed since Kasey Keller learned how to play football in Leicester.

It's depressing. It honestly is.


Well there was a time when at most they had 1 or 2 players who played in the top European leagues.

They have more now than ever but obviously not stars.

The best American athletes will play other sports before soccer and that probably will never change, because there are lucrative opportunities in these other sports.
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Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022 - Group Stage 

Post#712 » by Cactus Jack » Fri Nov 25, 2022 9:44 pm

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HIF wrote:Maybe US fans will finally realise that they really haven't progressed since Kasey Keller learned how to play football in Leicester.

It's depressing. It honestly is.


Well there was a time when at most they had 1 or 2 players who played in the top European leagues.

They have more now than ever but obviously not stars.

The best American athletes will play other sports before soccer and that probably will never change, because there are lucrative opportunities in these other sports.

NIL will now only encourage more athletes to choose those other sports. American Football & Basketball specifically. There's so much more money & exposure available than a sport like Soccer in this country for student athletes. A two or three sport athlete would be crazy to pick Soccer. The sad reality.
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Post#713 » by Blame Rasho » Fri Nov 25, 2022 9:51 pm

USA played better but didn’t get the 3 points. They had chances and didn’t capitalize.
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Post#714 » by Blame Rasho » Fri Nov 25, 2022 9:56 pm

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Cactus Jack wrote:It's depressing. It honestly is.


Well there was a time when at most they had 1 or 2 players who played in the top European leagues.

They have more now than ever but obviously not stars.

The best American athletes will play other sports before soccer and that probably will never change, because there are lucrative opportunities in these other sports.

NIL will now only encourage more athletes to choose those other sports. American Football & Basketball specifically. There's so much more money & exposure available than a sport like Soccer in this country for student athletes.


Well the type of players playing are different.

I mean if you are 6’5 you aren’t going to be looking at soccer as a potential career path.

Soccer is unique is that you don’t need to be tall to be great.

I don’t know how much Mbappe makes, but compare his income to someone like Jordan Poole, and I would say that they are comparable despite being a world of difference in stature in their respective sports.
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Post#715 » by wco81 » Fri Nov 25, 2022 10:15 pm

But look at PGs in the NBA, maybe even some combo guards, maybe some wings with ridiculous wingspan and hops.

Or look at the players who become defensive backs or WRs in the NFL. Those players have explosiveness as well as the ability to add strength, short area quickness.

Instead of adding bulk to play in the NFL, these players could top out at maybe 180-190 pounds for a 6-footer, but with many in the 5-8 range and 165-175 pounds.

They'd have to train for endurance though, run about 7-10 miles at good pace. Of course work on the dribbling and striking skills rather than the ball skills they work on.

Also, you notice now there's more hand fighting as players jockey for position or try to run away from defenders in both the NFL and soccer.
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Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022 - Group Stage 

Post#716 » by sjballer03 » Fri Nov 25, 2022 10:28 pm

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HIF wrote:Okay that's enough ribbing from me.

Hope the US and Iran match is a good one, for everyone.


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Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022 - Group Stage 

Post#717 » by Nate505 » Fri Nov 25, 2022 10:30 pm

Before the game I was going to be really happy with a loss by a goal or less, due to the circumstances of the group. A tie is only a bummer because fundamentally, there's not a ton of difference between a tie or a one goal loss.

With a tie the difference is that any type of win and the US advances. With a one goal loss, the US still would have been a goal above Wales on goal differential, so even if they beat Iran by just a single goal Wales would still have to beat England by two goals. Certainly not impossible, but it feels like a tall ask of them.
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Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022 - Group Stage 

Post#718 » by Nate505 » Fri Nov 25, 2022 10:35 pm

Pharmcat wrote:Team USA sucks . No progress made at all. So sad

I don't get "USA sucks" opinion.

Are the US a team that will vie to win the World Cup? No. There's only about 5-6 teams in the whole world who can probably say that. Maybe 10 if we are being super duper generous. Are they a team that can get out of the group stage? Yes. They actually have a very realistic chance to do so in this World Cup. They control their own destiny, and that's about as much as you can ask for in the 3rd game in the group stage.

To me, Costa Rica is a team that sucks. Qatar is a team that sucks. The US? They are what they are. A team that is usually a threat to get out of the group but not a real threat to win the whole thing. Which applies to probably half of the teams in the Cup.
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Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022 - Group Stage 

Post#719 » by ChumboChappati » Fri Nov 25, 2022 10:40 pm

its not looking good for US
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Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022 - Group Stage 

Post#720 » by Nate505 » Fri Nov 25, 2022 10:52 pm

ChumboChappati wrote:its not looking good for US

It's not? If they win their last game they're in. That's about all you can really ask for for most teams.

Who it's not looking good for is Wales. They have to hope that the US beats Iran and they beat England by 4 goals. That's the definition of "not looking good."

Or Qatar, who has already been eliminated.

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