Premier League 2020/2021

[HIF]

Watching Werners interview after the game he did not seem to care about the lost FA Cup final at all.
Not a surprise that he aint scoring a lot of goals with that mindset although he played fairly well today.

Tuchel has Chelsea playing well but I feel like the CL trophy is Cities to lose. They just have more quality.

He really does seem pretty **** - when compared to the elite players. Better than Ayoze Perez for sure but really not an elite striker. Chelsea should offer him and Havertz in a swap for Harry Kane. Spurs would still turn it down.

He shouldn't be compared to other elite players, because he isn't really in the same vein as them. Also his price tag was under 50M. His chance conversion has been suspect, but then you also have to think about how he gets so many chances in the first place. His movement his elite and his engine is tireless, and he never hangs his head. He also just dropped another quality performance against Leicester yesterday regardless of the fact that he didn't score or assist. He's also been quite unlucky with threading the needle between being staying onside and being a hair off, but that's something I think he'll get better with next season.

I still think we go for a striker in the summer like a Lukaku, but Timo should be here for a long time.

You watch him more than me so I'm sure you're right but what I've seen is that he's a second/third class Vardy. He has speed and knows where to go but he has no calmness and he is not a natural striker. I'd ne playing Abraham instead of him and I'm sure that Abrahamovich will want a striker in the team that can score. Which German will it be? Maybe he'll sign Lewandowski.

[The_Brecht]

Silverware > league position

[HIF]

Shouldn't Rudiger have been sent off or at least booked for this?

Ricardo and Amartey were the only two booked. Amartey did nothing, in fact Thiago went out after him. Big club bias I guess.

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Amartey (who?) after dropping the most memorable moment of his career here after the FA cup

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Was then on the field fighting with players off the bench. He should have been given a red and sent straight to the team bus.

Well We know him. He's a utility defender who has come back from 2 years out. The pennant thing is so funny that mercenaries who play for Abrahamovic's money only could care less and fans get worked up about a scrap of material. No wonder there are wars on this planate all the time. If you watch the video you'll see that he doesn't fight at all. he came down to move players away and Thiago went after him. I notice you said nothing about Rudiger who gave a 2 hand push into the back of a player after the whistle had been blown. If anyone deserved a red card it was him. **** clown. and Chilwell for his poor acting.

[HIF]

Massive win. Securing top 4 > an FA cup imo imo imo

I guess that sums up modern football. Top 4 is simply about money and greed, getting into the CL (not about wining it) which in turn perpetuates the big clubs staying at the top because the others have to sell players to them. Football should be about winning competitions not about generating money for greedy owners.

You have to think about the context of our season. The FA cup was objectively the lesser cup that we're involved in. That was the biggest match of your season. If you could have asked Tuchel to rank his priorities between: Winning the FA cup, Winning the CL final and securing champions league football via top 4 next season; the FA cup would rank dead last.

First of all his contract extension is tied to securing CL football, so that shouldn't be a shocker. A domestic cup would have been a nice novelty- but he didn't start his strongest 11. He most likely wanted to see how the game would play out, and thought we could have had enough quality anyway in the team selected to win. He thought wrong (lets ignore the blatant handball).

It's a nice honor and I was disappointed we lost the game, but if the highlight of our season was winning the FA cup, but we failed to land champions league football for next season it would be a pink bow tied onto a disappointing ending.

I wouldn't have traded last years FA cup loss to Arsenal for our champions league spot either, look at the run we've gone and went on.

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I love the perspective taken after you lost the FA Cup. You are a SUPERLEAGUE team and you should expect to win a cup every year. You didn't win the league Cup and you had a great chance to win the FA Cup. Your team must be several times the price of our team. You've taken a top player from us in 3 of the last 5 years. AND YOU LOST! There was no excuse except that we wanted it more than your mercenaries. After that your players got a lot of **** and felt shamed which actually made them play with a bit of heart and passion against us. And then you scraped a win (though it was so nearly a 2-2 draw). your first win this season against us after 2 losses this season. If Man City beat you in the final you'll have won nothing this season, how insignificant will the FA Cup be then? You may make it into the CL next Sunday, you may not. Beating Leicester hasn't made that a certainty. It isn't an honour to play and be beaten in the CL, it's about making money which is what the game is for Chelsea FC and the other SUPERLEAGUE clubs. The CL is almost a closed shop which perpetuates revenue - it is what you wanted the SUPERLEAGUE to be.

As for not playing your strongest 11 don't make me laugh you did apart from 1 player, tuchel wasn't resting players for a match that is going to take place in a couple of week's time.. and let's face it you also had a player who cost you £70m on the bench along with lots of other expensive players. And Tuchel and your players **** it up and were beaten by a little team.

Your players are punks and mercenaries. Your supporters are the children of 80's thugs and racists and proved it again over the last few days. You should be ashamed of the racism spouted and the punkish behaviour of your players. Ben Chilwell is a great example of the new Chelsea player. A fake front with a weak but punk underneath, though you probably thought his pre-final interviews were really clever.

I will laugh my ass off if you lose to Villa and Man City and end up with Europa League and no trophies, yet last week I hoped that you won the final and got top 4. and if you win both games, it changes nothing because your owner cares nothing about European football, your team are punks and mercenaries and your supporters are racist thugs. Okay next post.

[HIF]

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Special player

He's not even the best English midfielder in the prem but he is certainly well hyped.

Well clear of Maddison

Before Maddison was injured I'd rather have had Maddison but I wasn't talking of Maddison I was talking of Grealish who is well well clear of Mount. And in the 3 games we've played you this season Tielemans has shown that he is far better too.

[HIF]

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World War III on the way against Chelsea fans. He threw a pennant on the floor.

[HIF]

How many thugs does it take to threaten Dan Amartey?

[wco81]

Didn't know about this thuggish image Chelsea had.

Isn't that a rather posh part of London?

[Foye]

He really does seem pretty **** - when compared to the elite players. Better than Ayoze Perez for sure but really not an elite striker. Chelsea should offer him and Havertz in a swap for Harry Kane. Spurs would still turn it down.

He shouldn't be compared to other elite players, because he isn't really in the same vein as them. Also his price tag was under 50M. His chance conversion has been suspect, but then you also have to think about how he gets so many chances in the first place. His movement his elite and his engine is tireless, and he never hangs his head. He also just dropped another quality performance against Leicester yesterday regardless of the fact that he didn't score or assist. He's also been quite unlucky with threading the needle between being staying onside and being a hair off, but that's something I think he'll get better with next season.

I still think we go for a striker in the summer like a Lukaku, but Timo should be here for a long time.

You watch him more than me so I'm sure you're right but what I've seen is that he's a second/third class Vardy. He has speed and knows where to go but he has no calmness and he is not a natural striker. I'd ne playing Abraham instead of him and I'm sure that Abrahamovich will want a striker in the team that can score. Which German will it be? Maybe he'll sign Lewandowski.

Werner will probably be much better next year than he was this year. Takes time to adjust to a new team and league. He will never be absolute world class, though.

[stormi]

He's not even the best English midfielder in the prem but he is certainly well hyped.

Well clear of Maddison

Before Maddison was injured I'd rather have had Maddison but I wasn't talking of Maddison I was talking of Grealish who is well well clear of Mount. And in the 3 games we've played you this season Tielemans has shown that he is far better too.

It's Mount and Foden in another conversation from the rest. Tiel hitting a fluke screamer against T-rex arms Kepa doesn't change that. Was also invisible last night tbh.

[stormi]

I guess that sums up modern football. Top 4 is simply about money and greed, getting into the CL (not about wining it) which in turn perpetuates the big clubs staying at the top because the others have to sell players to them. Football should be about winning competitions not about generating money for greedy owners.

You have to think about the context of our season. The FA cup was objectively the lesser cup that we're involved in. That was the biggest match of your season. If you could have asked Tuchel to rank his priorities between: Winning the FA cup, Winning the CL final and securing champions league football via top 4 next season; the FA cup would rank dead last.

First of all his contract extension is tied to securing CL football, so that shouldn't be a shocker. A domestic cup would have been a nice novelty- but he didn't start his strongest 11. He most likely wanted to see how the game would play out, and thought we could have had enough quality anyway in the team selected to win. He thought wrong (lets ignore the blatant handball).

It's a nice honor and I was disappointed we lost the game, but if the highlight of our season was winning the FA cup, but we failed to land champions league football for next season it would be a pink bow tied onto a disappointing ending.

I wouldn't have traded last years FA cup loss to Arsenal for our champions league spot either, look at the run we've gone and went on.

As for not playing your strongest 11 don't make me laugh you did apart from 1 player

Which one of Kepa Arrizabalaga or Marcos Alonso are apart of our starting 11?

You won, for sure. I wouldn't even say it was well deserved. We carried play pretty much all game, dominated shots and possession and your player won the ball back in the open field against a deliberate handball and scored on a prayer shot that Mendy saves. It happens, and I was happy for the Leicester supporters that were there and rocking the stadium.

But Amartey was a poor winner, and a weirdo and and of course the players were going to keep that in their minds considering we played so soon after. It was getting battle of the bridge vibes and Pereira was getting physical with Chilwell. Of course you can replay it a million times and pinpoint where you want to start developinging your strawman, Rudiger steps up for his player that he thinks was just targeted. Proper captain material man. I loved seeing him Mendy, Silva and even Mount clear the rats out. Fitting way to end a satisfying win.

[stormi]

Silverware > league position

Your team is the exact reason that I would vehemently oppose this idea. But you're free to disagree.

[stormi]

I love that HIF feels so passionately negative about Chelsea. Nice little rivalry brewing.

[Baphomet]

And it should, my friend.

When your star player is wanting out it signifies the end of "elite" status. Your team is now in with the rest of us where we have to say goodbye to top players every season. picked off by the closed shop of the rich clubs.

Leicester have had players picked off every year

20/21 Chilwell
19/20 Maguire
18/19 Mahrez
17/18 Drinkwater
16/17 Kanté

Sometimes. Spurs were known as a selling team for years, we sold on Modric and Bale and still hung thereabouts in the top 6. When we do sell Kane, there's a thin line between being a team pushing for CL football, or becoming a mediocre mid-table side like Crystal Palace or Arsenal. That basically boils down to recruitment and investment, both in the coaching and playing staff. Leicester got good fees for those players, and reinvested the money very well, for the most part.

Liverpool sold Coutinho to Barca for big money, but because they had brought Klopp in and made excellent signings to strengthen the squad, the team went from perennial nearly-men to an absolute force despite losing their star man (I'll add that they sold Sterling and Suarez for big money before that point too). I have serious doubts that Spurs will recruit anywhere near as well, or have the pull of a behemoth like Liverpool, but I think the only positive way I can view it is to see it as a chance for a new beginning and to build a new squad and culture under a new manager.

[Cactus Jack]

I love that HIF feels so passionately negative about Chelsea. Nice little rivalry brewing.

I fully expect us to drop points today. But if by some miracle Pool finish above Leicester, HIF will absolutely lose his marbles. You can count on it.

[wco81]

And it should, my friend.

When your star player is wanting out it signifies the end of "elite" status. Your team is now in with the rest of us where we have to say goodbye to top players every season. picked off by the closed shop of the rich clubs.

Leicester have had players picked off every year

20/21 Chilwell
19/20 Maguire
18/19 Mahrez
17/18 Drinkwater
16/17 Kanté

Sometimes. Spurs were known as a selling team for years, we sold on Modric and Bale and still hung thereabouts in the top 6. When we do sell Kane, there's a thin line between being a team pushing for CL football, or becoming a mediocre mid-table side like Crystal Palace or Arsenal. That basically boils down to recruitment and investment, both in the coaching and playing staff.

Liverpool sold Coutinho to Barca for big money, but because they had brought Klopp in and made excellent signings to strengthen the squad, the team went from perennial nearly-men to an absolute force despite losing their star man (I'll add that they sold Sterling and Suarez for big money before that point too). I have serious doubts that Spurs will recruit anywhere near as well, or have the pull of a behemoth like Liverpool, but I think the only positive way I can view it is to see it as a chance for a new beginning and to build a new squad and culture under a new manager.

I would think the Hotspur stadium hasn't had a chance to have full-capacity crowds for matches yet but when they built it, they had high ambitions to generate greater revenues and compete at the highest levels?

In the US, new stadiums usually mean higher ticket prices and luxury suites usually leased by corporations, leading to revenues doubling or more. They deliberately go for more affluent fans to buy season tickets, maybe even pay for PSLs which can run in the tens of thousands.

So will the Spurs be able to tap into richer fans and perhaps generate revenues comparable to Manchester United, Chelsea or Arsenal?


Do EPL clubs also have dynamic ticket pricing? That is, when a club is having a good season and a strong competitor or historical rival visits, they boost the ticket prices.

[HIF]

Didn't know about this thuggish image Chelsea had.

Isn't that a rather posh part of London?

Chelsea were one of the most violent of the hooligan gangs and alongside Millwall one of the most notorious.

[HIF]

He shouldn't be compared to other elite players, because he isn't really in the same vein as them. Also his price tag was under 50M. His chance conversion has been suspect, but then you also have to think about how he gets so many chances in the first place. His movement his elite and his engine is tireless, and he never hangs his head. He also just dropped another quality performance against Leicester yesterday regardless of the fact that he didn't score or assist. He's also been quite unlucky with threading the needle between being staying onside and being a hair off, but that's something I think he'll get better with next season.

I still think we go for a striker in the summer like a Lukaku, but Timo should be here for a long time.

You watch him more than me so I'm sure you're right but what I've seen is that he's a second/third class Vardy. He has speed and knows where to go but he has no calmness and he is not a natural striker. I'd ne playing Abraham instead of him and I'm sure that Abrahamovich will want a striker in the team that can score. Which German will it be? Maybe he'll sign Lewandowski.

Werner will probably be much better next year than he was this year. Takes time to adjust to a new team and league. He will never be absolute world class, though.

True. It does take time to adjust. He just seems incapable of putting the ball away when in a great position.

[The_Brecht]

Silverware > league position

Your team is the exact reason that I would vehemently oppose this idea. But you're free to disagree.

The last couple of years we didn't really compete for the title.
Last year we finished outside of the top four for the first time in ages, but we won the FA Cup and Community Shield.
I was frustrated with the league position, but if you win some silverware, that's the thing people remember.

This season is a disaster, but if we would have won the Europa League, nobody would even care anymore.

People remember trophies, not finishinf third or fourth.

[The_Brecht]

Btw, how funny is it that Klopp is saying finishing top four would be the greatest accomplishment?

Wenger said it more than a decade ago and he got mocked for it. Klopp gets the sympathy.