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Re: UEFA European Championship 2020 - Knockout Stage
Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:07 pm
by Sedale Threatt
England had a grand total of 1 shot on goal over the final 118 minutes of the match. Not even remotely good enough.
Re: UEFA European Championship 2020 - Knockout Stage
Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:07 pm
by TwolvesFanRome
FOOTBALL IS COMING ROME..!!!!!
I am criyng like a baby...Win the EURO Final at Wembley against them!!
I CAN T ASK MORE
Re: UEFA European Championship 2020 - Knockout Stage
Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:21 pm
by Foye
How can you let an Arsenal player take the last penalty lol?
Re: UEFA European Championship 2020 - Knockout Stage
Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:41 pm
by wco81
Lot of key matches decided by shootout, including the final and one of semifinals.
Seems like more than usual in key international competitions.
Re: UEFA European Championship 2020 - Knockout Stage
Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 11:13 pm
by Baphomet
Foye wrote:How can you let an Arsenal player take the last penalty lol?
To be fair to Saka, putting a teenager in that kind of position is ridiculous. The fifth penalty is often the most key. He looked poor during the match as well, as most of our forward line did, the occasion was clearly too much for him.
Re: UEFA European Championship 2020 - Knockout Stage
Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 11:23 pm
by Baphomet
Despite England's progress I still don't rate Southgate as a tactician. Really poor game management after a bright start and excellent team goal. England's press shriveled and Italy grew into the game in the second half and they started finding gaps, which was probably the time to bring on subs. Of course, he didn't make any changes until they had scored. Italy defended well but didn't offer all that much either, and scored off a scruffy crappy goal. They really should have held on and won but found a way to blow it as usual. Excruciating.
I don't even blame Rashford, Sancho and Saka. Penalties are rough, especially in a final.
All credit to the Italians though, they were probably the best team in the tournament. England would have been worthy winners too, but if you can't get it done at home then you have to wonder when it will happen.
Now I can look forward to watching Spurs in the Europa Conference League. I hate this sport.
Re: UEFA European Championship 2020 - Knockout Stage
Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 11:42 pm
by rapstarter
Baphomet wrote:Foye wrote:How can you let an Arsenal player take the last penalty lol?
To be fair to Saka, putting a teenager in that kind of position is ridiculous. The fifth penalty is often the most key. He looked poor during the match as well, as most of our forward line did, the occasion was clearly too much for him.
I don't think either Saka or Southgate deserves much blame for that particular PK anyway. It was far from the worst penalty of the shootout. Sometimes, goalkeepers guess right. It's also easy to say Saka is inexperienced and they should have predicted this outcome, but some youngsters are more fearless than veterans
because of their inexperience. Unfortunate ending for England, but frankly they looked lucky to even make it to the shootout.
Like you said above, Southgate is a problem. You can have all the talent in the world (and England had quite a bit), but you have to use them and make them work.
Re: UEFA European Championship 2020 - Knockout Stage
Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 11:44 pm
by fbalmeida
That Chiellini collar yank will bring me chuckles for years. That's a man doing what he had to do to get the job done.
I'm ready for the next 55 years of unwarranted arrogance and overhype from English footballing media.
Re: UEFA European Championship 2020 - Knockout Stage
Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 11:48 pm
by fbalmeida
Imagine taking a child to a game and making him/her wear a suit.
End the monarchy.
Re: UEFA European Championship 2020 - Knockout Stage
Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 11:55 pm
by Baphomet
fbalmeida wrote:That Chiellini collar yank will bring me chuckles for years. That's a man doing what he had to do to get the job done.
I'm ready for the next 55 years of unwarranted arrogance and overhype from English footballing media.
From what I've seen over the duration of this tournament both around here and on social media, the most profoundly annoying and arrogant people have typically been among England's detractors rather than the opposite.
Re: UEFA European Championship 2020 - Knockout Stage
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 1:45 am
by Shaazzam
I like seeing Maguire step up and smash that penalty. But **** deal about Rashford and Sancho.
Re: UEFA European Championship 2020 - Knockout Stage
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:15 am
by CoP
Was surprised Saka took the 5th. I know Sterling is **** at pens but that still seemed weird to me when it happened. Felt bad for Saka even though I was happy for Italy to win.
Re: UEFA European Championship 2020 - Knockout Stage
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:16 am
by Pharmcat
Baphomet wrote:Despite England's progress I still don't rate Southgate as a tactician. Really poor game management after a bright start and excellent team goal. England's press shriveled and Italy grew into the game in the second half and they started finding gaps, which was probably the time to bring on subs. Hi Of course, he didn't make any changes until they had scored. Italy defended well but didn't offer all that much either, and scored off a scruffy crappy goal. They really should have held on and won but found a way to blow it as usual. Excruciating.
I don't even blame Rashford, Sancho and Saka. Penalties are rough, especially in a final.
All credit to the Italians though, they were probably the best team in the tournament. England would have been worthy winners too, but if you can't get it done at home then you have to wonder when it will happen.
Now I can look forward to watching Spurs in the Europa Conference League. I hate this sport.
As silly as it sounds that early goal hurt England IMO , it put them in a shell. You can’t just give up so much possession and think the other team won’t score . I don’t understand why Mount played so much. Grealish came on and it got exciting , he should played much more . I’m just not a southgate fan at all.
Re: UEFA European Championship 2020 - Knockout Stage
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:22 am
by The_Brecht
Southgate man.
Why would you ever pick a teenager to take the fifth pen in a shootout?
Also, making subs, just for the pens is stupid.
Were the more experienced players affraid? Because if so, they should also take the blame.
Where were Phillips, Shaw, Sterling, Stones and Grealish?
Re: UEFA European Championship 2020 - Knockout Stage
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:21 am
by okboomer
The_Brecht wrote:Southgate man.
Why would you ever pick a teenager to take the fifth pen in a shootout?
Also, making subs, just for the pens is stupid.
Were the more experienced players affraid? Because if so, they should also take the blame.
Where were Phillips, Shaw, Sterling, Stones and Grealish?
Sterling and Grealish are the ones who should have stepped up and taken one. At least one of them in place of Saka. Particularly Sterling.
Re: UEFA European Championship 2020 - Knockout Stage
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:28 am
by HIF
El Turco wrote:italy is lacking a clinical finisher to take advantage of their dominance, they should be up comfortably.
seems you were so wrong about the English annihilation. again.
Re: UEFA European Championship 2020 - Knockout Stage
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:29 am
by HIF
djsunyc wrote:italy decimated by covid last year. this is something they needed.
Everyone was.
Re: UEFA European Championship 2020 - Knockout Stage
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:30 am
by HIF
El Turco wrote:england chokes, everything back to normal
poor performance all around but italy had bit better game and tournament overall so fair result
You have a real problem with England don't you? Is it an inferiority complex? We got to the final and matched the champions. Good tournament for us again.
Re: UEFA European Championship 2020 - Knockout Stage
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:32 am
by HIF
Mamba81p wrote:So the populist govt in UK allowed almost a full Wembley when they figure it out that England might need it, and they got to the finals after a penalty gift, only to lose on penalties.. poetic justice. Love it
Well deserved for Italy, they have been the best team the whole tournament.
You talk such crap. If the attendance wasn't increased the final was going to be moved to Hungary or Rumania because UEFA wanted enough seats for their family and friends. Get your facts right if you ever can.
Re: UEFA European Championship 2020 - Knockout Stage
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:34 am
by HIF
fbalmeida wrote:That Chiellini collar yank will bring me chuckles for years. That's a man doing what he had to do to get the job done.
I'm ready for the next 55 years of unwarranted arrogance and overhype from English footballing media.
Should have been a red card like the stamp on Grealish. Ref had no intention of sending someone off in a final though - no balls.