LDNMagic90 wrote:stormi wrote:SgtPepper wrote:I look at the league understat profiles periodically, and this year Serie A profiles worse than Ligue 1 in terms of forward goal threat (they're the 5th best league in europe). Serie A is vastly overrated at the moment. Zlatan was having a revival in this league after an MLS stint.
Also Tuchel isn't some perfect coach just because he won the CL with Chelsea. Tammy fit Tuchel's Chelsea as a rotation player with some unique qualities more than Lukaku and potentially Borja Mayoral. His track record with signings, especially forwards like Choupo Moting, is pretty spotty. Tuchel is more famous for his tactical flexibility, and perhaps it is just smarter for the club to continue managing signings regardless of his views especially given how much of a Lukaku proponent he was. Replacing Tammy with ultimately Borja is definitely a step backwards, and the premise you identified just suggests they should continue playing Werner. Anyways for the moment this is FM banter as Chelsea might get transfer banned again, and that may once again be for the best because it gives time for player development and integration.
One long-term thing to consider is that Tuchel's system will likely have to change due to the centerback contract situation, and because it directly caps the kind of goalscoring the team can participate in. If you compare this Chelsea vs continental rivals, in a 1 or 2-off Chelsea still has all the resources to keep things tight and win tactically, but it's not a free flowing creative side like most of the classic 433 teams.
Tammy is ****.
Lukaku was a board signing. Tuchel asked for Weigl, Hakimi and Kounde.
I'm sure you saw plenty of creativity RM fan last year (without Kaka or Tammy in the lineup)
We should have battered RM for a lot more than just the 3 aggregate goals that were put up on the board, and Havertz and Pulisic were running into pockets of open space for days.
I think you are underselling Tammy. He is not s*** and its quite far off the mark, he's realistically had 2 'bad' seasons as a striker. I personally don't see Broja being a better striker as of now than Tammy is.
His last stint with Chelsea was not great, but you have to consider certain factors as to why it went bad for him. Everywhere else Tammy has played well, I do have a feeling he'll be back in the prem and he'll be firing again.
Look the Serie A is not that great of a league, it's pretty much been that way for the last few seasons. However as a Villa fan I know what Tammy is capable of, I'm certain if we signed him instead of Ings in the summer he'd be firing for us as well.
I don't necessarily rate Broja either. He's just another kid with potential. Tammy showed out sort of well here, better under Lampard two seasons ago. The year Lampard got fired, Tammy was not playing good ball. Inconsistent touch, no arial presence, no real link-up play. And then Tuchel came in and everyone got a fresh start. Rudiger went from out of the team to a top 3 CB in world football. Jorginho and Kovacic got back in favor and contributed massively to the run we went on last season.
Tammy was given another run of games, and we still continued to be shambolic up front. It got to the point where he wasn't just getting benched, he was completely being left off the team because he was so inconsistent it was becoming a liability. Even last season where Chelsea were running a musical chairs group of attackers up front, Tammy couldn't even find his way onto the bench.
Now that doesn't mean that Tuchel has some flawless and unquestionable talent ID, but it matches what I was seeing on the pitch. Tammy wasn't the type and caliber of player we needed to take our game to the next level.
AND EVEN AFTER ALL OF THAT, he was still better than Lukaku has been for Chels.
I think the over importance of trying to find a true 9 is totally missing the mark. City have been searching for one for years and have had zero issue battering the prem up and down for years.
I think Havertz can be the 9 on a league winning team because of his pressing, arial presence, link-up and running in behind ability. The team just needs to City it up and get some playmakers with elite ball retention and progression through carrying like a Foden/Bernardo/Mahrez.