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Football Related Random Thoughts Thread 2.0
Posted: Wed Jan 8, 2014 2:27 pm
by 5DOM
Potential season-long calendar for 2012:
Re: Football Related Random Thoughts Thread 2.0
Posted: Wed Jan 8, 2014 2:54 pm
by Maex
Former Germany international footballer Thomas Hitzlsperger has revealed he is gay.
"In England, Germany or Italy [where Hitzlsperger played] the issue of homosexuality is not treated seriously - at least, not in the dressing room," he said.
"I was never ashamed of being who I am but it was not always easy to sit on a table with 20 young men and listen to jokes about gays. You let them get on with it as long as the jokes are somewhat funny and not too insulting."
The now retired international played for Bayern's youth team, Aston Villa, Stuttgart, Lazio Rom, West Ham, Wolfsburg and Everton.
Re: Football Related Random Thoughts Thread 2.0
Posted: Wed Jan 8, 2014 3:05 pm
by Next Coming
5DOM wrote:Potential season-long calendar for 2012:
We can't let this happen.
Re: Football Related Random Thoughts Thread 2.0
Posted: Wed Jan 8, 2014 3:27 pm
by Point forward
Maex wrote:Former Germany international footballer Thomas Hitzlsperger has revealed he is gay.
"In England, Germany or Italy [where Hitzlsperger played] the issue of homosexuality is not treated seriously - at least, not in the dressing room," he said.
"I was never ashamed of being who I am but it was not always easy to sit on a table with 20 young men and listen to jokes about gays. You let them get on with it as long as the jokes are somewhat funny and not too insulting."
The now retired international played for Bayern's youth team, Aston Villa, Stuttgart, Lazio Rom, West Ham, Wolfsburg and Everton.
Extremely interesting: in 2012, he was already interviewed on the topic "homophobia in soccer". Some quotes:
"I once heard of a gay player who had a pretend GF and outed himself to his team mates. The team accepted it, but he doesn't out himself to the public b/c fans can be so cruel."
"IMHO only a retired player can come out safely. But actually, I think the fans are pretty open minded now."
"If a gay player outs himself, IMHO the public will try to 'prove' how tolerant they are. But hypocritical kindness can be very tiring."
I have a gut feeling that in the next 5 years, the first BL gay player will out himself. Don't ask me why.
http://www.zeit.de/sport/2012-09/hitzls ... 9#comments
Re: Football Related Random Thoughts Thread 2.0
Posted: Wed Jan 8, 2014 4:45 pm
by MaliBrah
PSG's alex with some stupid comments... "God created adam and eve not adam and yves". Should just keep it to himself really , no point in making that statement.. nothing to gain and it gets you in hot waters.
Re: Football Related Random Thoughts Thread 2.0
Posted: Wed Jan 8, 2014 4:45 pm
by MaliBrah
Next Coming wrote:5DOM wrote:Potential season-long calendar for 2012:
We can't let this happen.
that club season will be so awkward ahaha
Re: Football Related Random Thoughts Thread 2.0
Posted: Wed Jan 8, 2014 4:53 pm
by J-Mezzy
Wow. This is ridiculous.
Re: Football Related Random Thoughts Thread 2.0
Posted: Thu Jan 9, 2014 7:57 am
by Baphomet
MaliBrah wrote:PSG's alex with some stupid comments... "God created adam and eve not adam and yves". Should just keep it to himself really , no point in making that statement.. nothing to gain and it gets you in hot waters.
Disappointing, but sadly I think most people expected these kind of comments following Hitzlsperger's announcement. People need to stop perpetuating this idiotic 'Adam & Eve not Adam & [male name]' rhetoric, it's utterly offensive to prop up personal prejudices with something so archaic. I'd like to think that we have advanced beyond that line of thinking as a people, but I suppose that's delusion on my part.
Re: Football Related Random Thoughts Thread 2.0
Posted: Thu Jan 9, 2014 8:27 am
by Baphomet
Speaking of idiotic footballers, what is Chris Smalling doing?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-ma ... r-25663771
Re: Football Related Random Thoughts Thread 2.0
Posted: Thu Jan 9, 2014 9:26 am
by Mirjalovic
Everyone have their opinion, Alex comment is not utterly stupid or something, but thats so unnecessary, he just need to STFU.
And call out another people religion also very offensive and unnecessary
Props to The Hammer.. always thought he should play more instead Ledesma
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Re: Football Related Random Thoughts Thread 2.0
Posted: Thu Jan 9, 2014 10:39 pm
by blkout
MaliBrah wrote:PSG's alex with some stupid comments... "God created adam and eve not adam and yves". Should just keep it to himself really , no point in making that statement.. nothing to gain and it gets you in hot waters.
Was he asked about it? If so then I can't be mad at him for saying it. I don't agree but you can't ask a guy a question then get mad when the answer isn't what you want to hear. If he just came out and said it he's an idiot.
Re: Football Related Random Thoughts Thread 2.0
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 12:06 am
by Baphomet
blkout wrote:MaliBrah wrote:PSG's alex with some stupid comments... "God created adam and eve not adam and yves". Should just keep it to himself really , no point in making that statement.. nothing to gain and it gets you in hot waters.
Was he asked about it? If so then I can't be mad at him for saying it. I don't agree but you can't ask a guy a question then get mad when the answer isn't what you want to hear. If he just came out and said it he's an idiot.
From what I can gather, the interview is from a French documentary called 'Jesus Football Club' where a number of French league players talk about religion. I suppose given that context, these comments are much less outlandish, though not any less ignorant. It seems likely that the topic was brought up and Alex gave those comments.
It sounds a lot like asking Wayne Rooney for his opinion on deficit spending or the current opera season.
Re: Football Related Random Thoughts Thread 2.0
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 5:46 pm
by magik9113
religious views must be respected also
don't sht on a guy for his opinion.
Although he's one of my favorite players and my sig for quite a while, Cassano's remarks during the past Euro were more outrageous...
When asked about gay players he said something like I hope there's no f*gg*ts in football
Re: Football Related Random Thoughts Thread 2.0
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 6:29 pm
by Mr Grant Hill
Mirjalovic wrote:Alex comment is not utterly stupid or something
adam and eve?
come on, man. that sounds like something a 5-year old would have said in a romanian village around the year 1300.
Re: Football Related Random Thoughts Thread 2.0
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 7:04 pm
by magik9113
Mr Grant Hill wrote:Mirjalovic wrote:Alex comment is not utterly stupid or something
adam and eve?
come on, man. that sounds like something a 5-year old would have said in a romanian village around the year 1300.
it's a simple religious reference. obviously i see where it could be taken as offensive...but no
Re: Football Related Random Thoughts Thread 2.0
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 7:17 pm
by treiz
Mr Grant Hill wrote:Mirjalovic wrote:Alex comment is not utterly stupid or something
adam and eve?
come on, man. that sounds like something a 5-year old would have said in a romanian village around the year 1300.
Even though it sounds silly(and I agree with you) most people around the world still have this in their beliefs. No need to downplay its importance amongst a huge population of the world just because you don't believe in it
Re: Football Related Random Thoughts Thread 2.0
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 8:05 pm
by Mr Grant Hill
treiz wrote:Even though it sounds silly(and I agree with you) most people around the world still have this in their beliefs. No need to downplay its importance amongst a huge population of the world just because you don't believe in it
well, i can accept any religious belief.
because it doesn't have any meaning nowadays, at least not where i'm living.
we won.
the liberal society won.
we had thousands of years of religious terror.
but not anymore. it's over. they lost. alex lost.
if they can't cope with it... a lot of countries would welcome them with open arms.
but religious oppression doesn't fly anymore in europe/the west. deal with it.
Re: Football Related Random Thoughts Thread 2.0
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 9:25 pm
by treiz
Mr Grant Hill wrote:treiz wrote:Even though it sounds silly(and I agree with you) most people around the world still have this in their beliefs. No need to downplay its importance amongst a huge population of the world just because you don't believe in it
well, i can accept any religious belief.
because it doesn't have any meaning nowadays, at least not where i'm living.
we won.
the liberal society won.
we had thousands of years of religious terror.
but not anymore. it's over. they lost. alex lost.
if they can't cope with it... a lot of countries would welcome them with open arms.
but religious oppression doesn't fly anymore in europe/the west. deal with it.
Like I said I agree with you. But then again in other areas that you didn't mention, religion still plays a major role in their lives, heck even in the western world there are still plenty of religious zealots. Heck most athletes, actor, media personalities whenever they win awards they attribute it to their respective deities and base their lives around superstitions, but then you have others like scientology, obviously it's not "over".
Re: Football Related Random Thoughts Thread 2.0
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 3:41 am
by Baphomet
Wasn't given (due to being out), but this is pretty cool regardless.
Re: Football Related Random Thoughts Thread 2.0
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 5:45 pm
by Man of Steel
