2014 FIFA World Cup: Group D (URA/CRC/ENG/ITA)

Moderators: Baphomet, kdawg32086, LittleOzzy

Who advances from Group D?

Poll ended at Sat Jun 21, 2014 1:19 am

Uruguay
39
30%
Costa Rica
7
5%
England
30
23%
Italy
53
41%
 
Total votes: 129

User avatar
LittleOzzy
Global Mod
Global Mod
Posts: 35,032
And1: 4,192
Joined: Dec 19, 2005
       

2014 FIFA World Cup: Group D (URA/CRC/ENG/ITA) 

Post#1 » by LittleOzzy » Tue Mar 25, 2014 1:19 am

Image

14 June 16:00 Uruguay Costa Rica
14 June 19:00 England Italy
19 June 16:00 Uruguay England
20 June 13:00 Costa Rica Italy
24 June 13:00 Italy Uruguay
24 June 13:00 Costa Rica England

* All Times EST
User avatar
Baphomet
Forum Mod - Spurs
Forum Mod - Spurs
Posts: 10,805
And1: 3,531
Joined: Dec 03, 2008
Location: UK
   

Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group D (URA/CRC/ENG/ITA) 

Post#2 » by Baphomet » Tue Mar 25, 2014 9:13 am

We got this, England.

Spoiler:
Image
User avatar
magik9113
General Manager
Posts: 8,777
And1: 666
Joined: Feb 03, 2006
       

Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group D (URA/CRC/ENG/ITA) 

Post#3 » by magik9113 » Tue Mar 25, 2014 3:09 pm

The fact that this seems to be the first World Cup where England has no expectations worries me. Italy has trouble against South American teams. Still, I pick Italia and Uruguay to advance
No_20
Veteran
Posts: 2,562
And1: 319
Joined: Feb 06, 2013

Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group D (URA/CRC/ENG/ITA) 

Post#4 » by No_20 » Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:02 pm

I know this may souns weird, but of all the teams in the group, i think England have the most talent.
Dirk Nowitzki, Steve Nash, Kevin Garnett, Toni Kroos, Pep Guardiola, Ernst Happel, Joachim Löw.
User avatar
magik9113
General Manager
Posts: 8,777
And1: 666
Joined: Feb 03, 2006
       

Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group D (URA/CRC/ENG/ITA) 

Post#5 » by magik9113 » Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:32 pm

No_20 wrote:I know this may souns weird, but of all the teams in the group, i think England have the most talent.

uh .... premier league bias?
DD12
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,228
And1: 952
Joined: Dec 11, 2013

Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group D (URA/CRC/ENG/ITA) 

Post#6 » by DD12 » Thu Mar 27, 2014 1:32 am

No_20 wrote:I know this may souns weird, but of all the teams in the group, i think England have the most talent.


Argentina has the most talent in the tournament but will not even be able to make semi final.

Talent is very important but not everything.
User avatar
Baphomet
Forum Mod - Spurs
Forum Mod - Spurs
Posts: 10,805
And1: 3,531
Joined: Dec 03, 2008
Location: UK
   

Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group D (URA/CRC/ENG/ITA) 

Post#7 » by Baphomet » Thu Mar 27, 2014 1:34 am

Talent has never been England's problem, and I agree that the team is super talented. We just collapse on the big occasions when it actually matters.

I'd like to be proven wrong but I've no reason to believe it will be any different this time around.
User avatar
ATL Boy
Forum Mod - Hawks
Forum Mod - Hawks
Posts: 10,919
And1: 3,943
Joined: May 15, 2011
Location: Atlanta GA
       

Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group D (URA/CRC/ENG/ITA) 

Post#8 » by ATL Boy » Thu Mar 27, 2014 3:03 am

Uruguay tops this. Italy 2nd imo. Sorry England.
SichtingLives wrote:life hack:

When a man heaves a live chainsaw towards you from distance, stand still. No one has good accuracy throwing a chainsaw.
User avatar
magik9113
General Manager
Posts: 8,777
And1: 666
Joined: Feb 03, 2006
       

Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group D (URA/CRC/ENG/ITA) 

Post#9 » by magik9113 » Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:37 pm

There's been far more talented England squads. Italy has much more talent than this England team. Uruguay might also
User avatar
Cruzeirao
Rookie
Posts: 1,039
And1: 33
Joined: Aug 09, 2004
Location: Brazil

Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group D (URA/CRC/ENG/ITA) 

Post#10 » by Cruzeirao » Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:54 pm

I have tickets for CRC X England game...

Hopefully, will be a great game...
Image
User avatar
PANDEMONEUM
Veteran
Posts: 2,950
And1: 328
Joined: Aug 10, 2009
     

Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group D (URA/CRC/ENG/ITA) 

Post#11 » by PANDEMONEUM » Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:00 pm

this looks like the most competitive group (imo)
*
i wonder if there will be a "gentleman's" agreement between Uruguay Costa Rica
could play for a tie
so they dont hurt each others chances of advancing

i know, too much conspiracy theory
ppedro123
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,771
And1: 1,416
Joined: Mar 08, 2014

Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group D (URA/CRC/ENG/ITA) 

Post#12 » by ppedro123 » Sat Mar 29, 2014 12:39 pm

Cruzeirao wrote:I have tickets for CRC X England game...

Hopefully, will be a great game...


I have tickets for Uruguay vs Costa Rica
cgf
RealGM
Posts: 14,074
And1: 2,018
Joined: Jul 01, 2008
Location: laser shield bitches

Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group D (URA/CRC/ENG/ITA) 

Post#13 » by cgf » Sat Mar 29, 2014 4:27 pm

Baphomet wrote:Talent has never been England's problem, and I agree that the team is super talented. We just collapse on the big occasions when it actually matters.

I'd like to be proven wrong but I've no reason to believe it will be any different this time around.


I think this is a myth the english tell themselves. Rooney is your only top talent who'd start for real contenders like Germany, Spain and Brazil.
dogrufus wrote:Plus the win would put us at .500 and 5 straight wins, making every poster here cream in their pants.

We're Knicks fans. We never get to cream.


cgmw wrote:Basically, in conclusion: I'd like Dolan to get off my lawn.
User avatar
Baphomet
Forum Mod - Spurs
Forum Mod - Spurs
Posts: 10,805
And1: 3,531
Joined: Dec 03, 2008
Location: UK
   

Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group D (URA/CRC/ENG/ITA) 

Post#14 » by Baphomet » Sat Mar 29, 2014 4:46 pm

Nowadays? You're right, none of our players with the exception of Rooney would make those squads. I didn't mean to make it seem like we were on that kind of level now, but I still think there's plenty of talent in this current England crop.

However, you don't think prime Gerrard/Lampard/Terry etc. would've made those teams? I don't think it's a myth that we've had some really solid squads from top to bottom over the years, particularly in the late 90s/early 00s, when to be honest Germany and Spain weren't even all that good themselves.
cgf
RealGM
Posts: 14,074
And1: 2,018
Joined: Jul 01, 2008
Location: laser shield bitches

Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group D (URA/CRC/ENG/ITA) 

Post#15 » by cgf » Sun Mar 30, 2014 5:08 am

Germany and Spain clearly weren't the top class sides in lamps/Gerard/scholes/terry/cole's hey day, and yes back then you had more top talents, but I still always felt in those days people overestimated just how talent they were relative to Brazil, France or Italy in those days.

And honestly even with Germany in their down period those miss would've had a hard time breaking the German 11 because back then we were commited to the 4-4-2 and Ballack-Frings just worked so perfectly as Michael Ballack's international performances simply smoke the enligsh boys's and Frings was a better holder than all except maybe carrick at his very peak, as Frings had slowed down a bit by then.

Terry and Cole would've walked right into our side tho.

Point being those talents didn't mesh and that exacerbated the problem, but it has been used to hide the fact that the "golden generation" actually weren't as talented as the giants of their day, whether they meshed or not.
dogrufus wrote:Plus the win would put us at .500 and 5 straight wins, making every poster here cream in their pants.

We're Knicks fans. We never get to cream.


cgmw wrote:Basically, in conclusion: I'd like Dolan to get off my lawn.
User avatar
LittleOzzy
Global Mod
Global Mod
Posts: 35,032
And1: 4,192
Joined: Dec 19, 2005
       

Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group D (URA/CRC/ENG/ITA) 

Post#16 » by LittleOzzy » Sun May 11, 2014 9:28 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/FOXSportsNews/status/465604116647907328[/tweet]
User avatar
5DOM
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 40,216
And1: 1,809
Joined: Aug 30, 2004
Contact:
       

Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group D (URA/CRC/ENG/ITA) 

Post#17 » by 5DOM » Sun May 11, 2014 9:35 pm

Best and most dependable English player of his generation, but right move to go with Baines and Shaw.
Image
User avatar
treiz
RealGM
Posts: 11,984
And1: 564
Joined: Aug 17, 2005
Location: London, England
       

Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group D (URA/CRC/ENG/ITA) 

Post#18 » by treiz » Sun May 11, 2014 9:41 pm

Correct decision, was hoping he would've ended it on a high note. Oh well
bbms
Analyst
Posts: 3,144
And1: 316
Joined: Dec 28, 2010
     

Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group D (URA/CRC/ENG/ITA) 

Post#19 » by bbms » Sun May 11, 2014 9:59 pm

Uruguay dominates the group. Best forward combo in the tournament with one of the dirtiest, hardest working, physically engaged defenses in the tournament. Just play defense, link fast to Suarez/Cavani and go. Same strategy that took them to the semifinals last WC, just now they have more passing quality in the midfield.

Italy is always Italy.

England was always unlucky. What could've been the greatest striking duos in modern soccer, Owen and Rooney, were plagued by injuries in 2012, when they actually had a great team. I don't love Lampard for England. Never been a fit next to Gerrard - the clearly better player - on a 442.
User avatar
White+Purple
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,613
And1: 235
Joined: Mar 21, 2012
Location: 2014 & 2015 FA Cup champions
     

Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group D (URA/CRC/ENG/ITA) 

Post#20 » by White+Purple » Mon May 12, 2014 6:57 pm

Be interested to see your starting XIs.

Goalkeepers: Joe Hart (Manchester City), Ben Foster (West Bromwich Albion), Fraser Forster (Celtic).

Defenders: Leighton Baines (Everton), Gary Cahill (Chelsea), Phil Jagielka (Everton), Glen Johnson (Liverpool), Phil Jones (Manchester United), Luke Shaw (Southampton), Chris Smalling (Manchester United).

Midfielders: Ross Barkley (Everton), Steven Gerrard (Liverpool), Jordan Henderson (Liverpool), Adam Lallana (Southampton), Frank Lampard (Chelsea), James Milner (Manchester City), Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal), Raheem Sterling (Liverpool), Jack Wilshere (Arsenal).

Attackers: Rickie Lambert (Southampton), Wayne Rooney (Manchester United), Daniel Sturridge (Liverpool), Daniel Welbeck (Manchester United).

Standby: John Ruddy (Norwich City), Jon Flanagan (Liverpool), John Stones (Everton), Michael Carrick (Manchester United), Tom Cleverley (Manchester United), Andy Carroll (West Ham United), Jermain Defoe (Toronto FC).
Image

Return to The General Soccer Board