2016 Centennial Copa America (June 3 - 26)

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Re: 2016 Centennial Copa America (June 3 - 26) 

Post#161 » by CalamityX12 » Mon Jun 20, 2016 2:20 pm

I would like to see Marlos get more time out there vs chile... i think chile's style of a wide open open fits Marlos' game a lot better than any other team at this moment....

plus Cardona didn't exactly play well enough to dismiss that possibility IMO.
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Re: 2016 Centennial Copa America (June 3 - 26) 

Post#162 » by RHBullsFan » Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:10 pm

It's nice to see Chile playing better each game as they get more used to the new coach and some new players. I couldn't be happier with the thumping of Mexico.

Losing Vidal for the game is going to hurt A LOT. I was hoping for a Chile/Colombia match so I get what I wanted. Hoping for a good game that doesn't come down to PKs.

Congrats to J-Mezzy. Whoever comes out of our game, I'll be rooting against Argentina, that's for sure.
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Re: 2016 Centennial Copa America (June 3 - 26) 

Post#163 » by Merc_Porto » Wed Jun 22, 2016 1:41 am

Messi, what else ...
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Re: 2016 Centennial Copa America (June 3 - 26) 

Post#164 » by No_20 » Wed Jun 22, 2016 1:45 am

Klinsmann is doing a great job with this scrub team tbh. World Cup L16, Copa America SF. Dont know what Americans expect.
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Re: 2016 Centennial Copa America (June 3 - 26) 

Post#165 » by BUCKnation » Wed Jun 22, 2016 1:52 am

This was such a terrible XI from JK. Two guys who shouldn't be in the lineup are directly responsible for both goals.
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Re: 2016 Centennial Copa America (June 3 - 26) 

Post#166 » by Orlwillbeback » Wed Jun 22, 2016 1:56 am

This messi guy is alright
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Re: 2016 Centennial Copa America (June 3 - 26) 

Post#167 » by norcocredo » Wed Jun 22, 2016 2:07 am

Best goal of the tournament so far. Damn.
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Re: 2016 Centennial Copa America (June 3 - 26) 

Post#168 » by Boognish » Wed Jun 22, 2016 2:32 am

Keep it under 7 and we good 8-)
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Re: 2016 Centennial Copa America (June 3 - 26) 

Post#169 » by GS Warriors 1 » Wed Jun 22, 2016 3:06 am

Well, sort of expected. Messi's goal was brilliant, but what a stupid foul by Wondolowski to put him in position.

Argentina should be solid favorites against either Colombia or Chile.
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Re: 2016 Centennial Copa America (June 3 - 26) 

Post#170 » by Soupman » Wed Jun 22, 2016 3:45 am

I watched most of the game.It looked like an all-star team playing against a 12th worst pick NBA lottery team. Messi and Lavazzi were having their way with us.Quicker to 50-50,better passing,better coordination,noticeably faster. Good thing it was only 0-4 and not 0-8 or 0-10.

I knew we we're not going to win... or draw but no shots on the goal?

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Re: 2016 Centennial Copa America (June 3 - 26) 

Post#171 » by asdfgh » Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:11 am

No_20 wrote:Klinsmann is doing a great job with this scrub team tbh. World Cup L16, Copa America SF. Dont know what Americans expect.


No he's not. He's a terrible coach who is so clueless he thought the US could beat Argentina. Sure, the team has no talent, but players like Wondolowski or Beckerman have no place in international football. Building the team around two very mediocre players like Bradley (a complete failure for every team he played for in Europe) and Dempsey (who used to be decent but is now washed up) has been a terrible mistake. The team obviously lacks skill, but I find it hard to believe that he couldn't find more athletic players to make up for what the team lacks in skill. The only player on the field for the U.S. that didn't look like an amateur was Yedlin because even though he doesn't know the basics, at least he can run. Bradley on the other hand was losing the ball every single time.

The U.S. need to get a real coach, because Klinsmann is all talk but he really has no idea what he's doing. They need to hire a coach who has had success in one of the top european leagues.
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Re: 2016 Centennial Copa America (June 3 - 26) 

Post#172 » by The_Brecht » Wed Jun 22, 2016 8:01 am

To be fair, semi final is one hell of an accomplishment with this US team.
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Re: 2016 Centennial Copa America (June 3 - 26) 

Post#173 » by CalamityX12 » Wed Jun 22, 2016 1:19 pm

1. GREAT Goal by Messi.... It's up there as the top goal of tournament... for me, I'll put it as 1b...1a belonging to that Bolivian goal in group stage still... i may need to watch it again...maybe flip?

2. The US did not play very well... Argentina cruised without much resistance and that's a shame because its not an indictment of team USA's performance in this copa. It's more on USA's awful game itself than Argentina.

3. Did not like the predictable Wondowliski insert into the starting 11.... i mean wtf and who da f sees anyting in this guy is beyond me. Yes our lack of quality depth showed and only so much could be done but rather see something else and i've called for that without 20/20 hindsight.

4. where da blazes is Julian Green? LMAO.... i mean, i keep asking cause wasn't this kid suppose to be good for team USA?

5. Guzan in a chump...

6. Bradley again for me shows he overrated... said since the WC 14
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Re: 2016 Centennial Copa America (June 3 - 26) 

Post#174 » by CalamityX12 » Wed Jun 22, 2016 1:27 pm

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No_20 wrote:Klinsmann is doing a great job with this scrub team tbh. World Cup L16, Copa America SF. Dont know what Americans expect.


No he's not. He's a terrible coach who is so clueless he thought the US could beat Argentina. Sure, the team has no talent, but players like Wondolowski or Beckerman have no place in international football. Building the team around two very mediocre players like Bradley (a complete failure for every team he played for in Europe) and Dempsey (who used to be decent but is now washed up) has been a terrible mistake. The team obviously lacks skill, but I find it hard to believe that he couldn't find more athletic players to make up for what the team lacks in skill. The only player on the field for the U.S. that didn't look like an amateur was Yedlin because even though he doesn't know the basics, at least he can run. Bradley on the other hand was losing the ball every single time.

The U.S. need to get a real coach, because Klinsmann is all talk but he really has no idea what he's doing. They need to hire a coach who has had success in one of the top european leagues.

Athleticism is something team USA won't be lacking in....

You can have all the athleticism in the world out there and most times, from an athletic ability, team USA should be one of the tops. But athleticism doesn't win games alone. If you(USA player) can't control a ball, control a touch, pass the ball accurately, get open for a pass, move around to help your teammate get out of pressure situations, not over commit to one guy with a ball... etc... athleticism does nothing for you.

Look at Wondowliski's f up that led to the super goal by Messi. I don't like the guy but athleticism wasn't his flaw there, it's his lack of fundamental. Everyone last night showed a lack of fundamental soccer play. My old High school team back in the days showed more quality with n without the ball.

Athleticism helps the edge in terms of advantage but with no quality soccer knowledge of the fundamentals, it's like expect a seal to fire a rocket launcher. lol
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Re: 2016 Centennial Copa America (June 3 - 26) 

Post#175 » by BUCKnation » Wed Jun 22, 2016 2:46 pm

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No_20 wrote:Klinsmann is doing a great job with this scrub team tbh. World Cup L16, Copa America SF. Dont know what Americans expect.


No he's not. He's a terrible coach who is so clueless he thought the US could beat Argentina. Sure, the team has no talent, but players like Wondolowski or Beckerman have no place in international football. Building the team around two very mediocre players like Bradley (a complete failure for every team he played for in Europe) and Dempsey (who used to be decent but is now washed up) has been a terrible mistake. The team obviously lacks skill, but I find it hard to believe that he couldn't find more athletic players to make up for what the team lacks in skill. The only player on the field for the U.S. that didn't look like an amateur was Yedlin because even though he doesn't know the basics, at least he can run. Bradley on the other hand was losing the ball every single time.

The U.S. need to get a real coach, because Klinsmann is all talk but he really has no idea what he's doing. They need to hire a coach who has had success in one of the top european leagues.

Athleticism is something team USA won't be lacking in....

You can have all the athleticism in the world out there and most times, from an athletic ability, team USA should be one of the tops. But athleticism doesn't win games alone. If you(USA player) can't control a ball, control a touch, pass the ball accurately, get open for a pass, move around to help your teammate get out of pressure situations, not over commit to one guy with a ball... etc... athleticism does nothing for you.

Look at Wondowliski's f up that led to the super goal by Messi. I don't like the guy but athleticism wasn't his flaw there, it's his lack of fundamental. Everyone last night showed a lack of fundamental soccer play. My old High school team back in the days showed more quality with n without the ball.

Athleticism helps the edge in terms of advantage but with no quality soccer knowledge of the fundamentals, it's like expect a seal to fire a rocket launcher. lol

It doesn't help that he plays the least athletic people in the pool and they can't connect a simple pass either.
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Re: 2016 Centennial Copa America (June 3 - 26) 

Post#176 » by CalamityX12 » Wed Jun 22, 2016 3:07 pm

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No he's not. He's a terrible coach who is so clueless he thought the US could beat Argentina. Sure, the team has no talent, but players like Wondolowski or Beckerman have no place in international football. Building the team around two very mediocre players like Bradley (a complete failure for every team he played for in Europe) and Dempsey (who used to be decent but is now washed up) has been a terrible mistake. The team obviously lacks skill, but I find it hard to believe that he couldn't find more athletic players to make up for what the team lacks in skill. The only player on the field for the U.S. that didn't look like an amateur was Yedlin because even though he doesn't know the basics, at least he can run. Bradley on the other hand was losing the ball every single time.

The U.S. need to get a real coach, because Klinsmann is all talk but he really has no idea what he's doing. They need to hire a coach who has had success in one of the top european leagues.

Athleticism is something team USA won't be lacking in....

You can have all the athleticism in the world out there and most times, from an athletic ability, team USA should be one of the tops. But athleticism doesn't win games alone. If you(USA player) can't control a ball, control a touch, pass the ball accurately, get open for a pass, move around to help your teammate get out of pressure situations, not over commit to one guy with a ball... etc... athleticism does nothing for you.

Look at Wondowliski's f up that led to the super goal by Messi. I don't like the guy but athleticism wasn't his flaw there, it's his lack of fundamental. Everyone last night showed a lack of fundamental soccer play. My old High school team back in the days showed more quality with n without the ball.

Athleticism helps the edge in terms of advantage but with no quality soccer knowledge of the fundamentals, it's like expect a seal to fire a rocket launcher. lol

It doesn't help that he plays the least athletic people in the pool and they can't connect a simple pass either.

I get that view but for last night, the lack of athleticism IMO was not the eye sore that stood out for me... it was the blatant lack of fundamentals displayed by USA
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Re: 2016 Centennial Copa America (June 3 - 26) 

Post#177 » by El Turco » Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:21 am

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Re: 2016 Centennial Copa America (June 3 - 26) 

Post#178 » by asdfgh » Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:26 am

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No he's not. He's a terrible coach who is so clueless he thought the US could beat Argentina. Sure, the team has no talent, but players like Wondolowski or Beckerman have no place in international football. Building the team around two very mediocre players like Bradley (a complete failure for every team he played for in Europe) and Dempsey (who used to be decent but is now washed up) has been a terrible mistake. The team obviously lacks skill, but I find it hard to believe that he couldn't find more athletic players to make up for what the team lacks in skill. The only player on the field for the U.S. that didn't look like an amateur was Yedlin because even though he doesn't know the basics, at least he can run. Bradley on the other hand was losing the ball every single time.

The U.S. need to get a real coach, because Klinsmann is all talk but he really has no idea what he's doing. They need to hire a coach who has had success in one of the top european leagues.

Athleticism is something team USA won't be lacking in....

You can have all the athleticism in the world out there and most times, from an athletic ability, team USA should be one of the tops. But athleticism doesn't win games alone. If you(USA player) can't control a ball, control a touch, pass the ball accurately, get open for a pass, move around to help your teammate get out of pressure situations, not over commit to one guy with a ball... etc... athleticism does nothing for you.

Look at Wondowliski's f up that led to the super goal by Messi. I don't like the guy but athleticism wasn't his flaw there, it's his lack of fundamental. Everyone last night showed a lack of fundamental soccer play. My old High school team back in the days showed more quality with n without the ball.

Athleticism helps the edge in terms of advantage but with no quality soccer knowledge of the fundamentals, it's like expect a seal to fire a rocket launcher. lol

It doesn't help that he plays the least athletic people in the pool and they can't connect a simple pass either.


I don't think you understood what I wrote. I didn't say that athleticism is all that matters. What I said is that since the U.S. lack skill, they should try to change their game in order to take advantage of areas they're stronger in. For some reason Klinsmann seems to think MLS stars are capable of competing with Champions League stars
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2016 Centennial Copa America (June 3 - 26) 

Post#179 » by ATL Boy » Thu Jun 23, 2016 1:41 am

Chile is so impressive. If they get to the final, I wouldn't be surprised to see them beat Argentina in the final once again.


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Re: 2016 Centennial Copa America (June 3 - 26) 

Post#180 » by EArl » Thu Jun 23, 2016 4:24 am

The two best teams are definitely playing in the finals. It should be a great match
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