2016-17 German Bundesliga Discussion Thread

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2016-17 German Bundesliga Discussion Thread 

Post#1 » by Det the Threat » Mon May 30, 2016 6:44 pm

Yet again, Bayern Munich was able to win the Bundesliga title making it a record breaking four times in a row.
Before that they had to share the record of winning three straight Bundesliga titles with Borussia Mönchengladbach, who achieved that feat winning the league in 1975, 1976 and 1977.

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This time around, Bayern Munich won the title once again but had to play for it till the next to last game, given that Borussia Dortmund, under new coach Thomas Tuchel, played the best season of a 2nd place team in Bundesliga history and at least somewhat kept some pressure on the bavarians.

The biggest dissapointment of last season was Wolfsburg, who crashed out of those european spots completeley after finishing 2nd the year before and not being able to replace the production of Kevin de Bruyne.

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Yet again, Bayern couldn't make it to the champions league final losing to a spanish team in the semis. This time around it was Atletico Madrid, who outworked Bayern and made it to the final thanks to a great team performance, while Bayern once again couldn't score on the road.
This was the last season for Pep Guardiola at Bayern Munich which ended in a good but not great tenure, given that he couldn't win the champions league.

Incoming:
Mats Hummels(CB/Dortmund)
Renato Sanchez(CM/Benfica)

Outgoing:
Serdar Tasci(CB/Spartac Moscow)

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After a down year in 2014/15, which saw them finish 7th in the league, Borussia Dortmund came back storming to the top spots of the Bundesliga and played one of the best seasons in club history.
Though, it wasn't enough, as Bayern was just to consistant and able to secure those extra points needed to beat out Dortmund for the league title.

Incoming:
Ousmane Dembelé(RW/Stade Rennes)
Mikel Merino(CM/CA Osasuna)

Outgoing:
Mats Hummels(CB/Bayern Munich)
Ilkay Gündogan?(CM/Manchester City?)

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After losing out on directly qualifying for the champions league last season, Leverkusen used a great run to finish the season and secure a place in the group stages of the champions league.
Youngster Julian Brandt really showed his progress and was a big factor in that

Incoming:
Kevin Volland(ST/Hoffenheim)
Julian Baumgartlinger(CM/Mainz)
Levin Öztunali(OM/Bremen)
Jonas Meffert(CM/Karlsruhe)

Outgoing:
Sebastian Boenisch(LB/?)

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After a horrendous start, which saw Gladbach lose the first five league games and manager Lucien Favre, the Foals were able to bounce back, win six straight and becoming the first team in Bundesliga history to finish the season in the top half of the table, after losing the first five games.
It ended even with Gladbach taking 4th place and being able to fight for yet another season of champions league football during those playoff games in mid to late August.

Incoming:
Tobias Strobl(defensive allrounder/Hoffenheim)
Josip Drmic(ST/Hamburg)

Outgoing:
Granit Xhaka(CM/Arsenal)
Harvard Nordtveit(defensive allrounder/West Ham United)
Roul Brouwers(CB/Roda Kerkrade)
Branimir Hrgota(ST/unknown)
Martin Hinteregger(CB/Salzburg)
Martin Stranzl(CB/retirement)

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After yet another uninspiring season Schalke once again missed out on the chamions league and fired manager Andre Breitenreiter after one season.
Sporting Director Horst Heldt was also let go and replaced by longtime Mainz spording director Christian Heidel, who will most likely install former Augsburg manager Markus Weinzierl as the new manager of Schalke.

Incoming:
Naldo(CB/Wolfsburg)

Outgoing:
Christian Clemens(RW/Mainz)
Joel Matip(CB/Liverpool)
Marco Höger(CM/Cologne)
Pierre-Emil Hojbjerg(CM/Bayern Munich)

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After yet another good season Mainz 05 finally made it to the Europa League group stages and will enjoy a guaranteed six games of european football.
Though, like always, good seasons end with the best players leaving the club and this time they won't have Christian Heidel around anymore, to keep things together.

Incoming:
Jhon Cordoba(ST/Granada)
Christian Clemens(RW/Schalke)
Maximilian Beister(ST/1860 Munich)

Outgoing:
Loris Karius(GK/Liverpool)
Julian Baumgartlinger(CM/Bayer Leverkusen)

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The second surprise team of the season was Hertha BSC Berlin who only avoided relegation thanks to the goal difference and will now play Europa League qualification.
Though, the club from the german capital certainly will look back at this season and think about a chance missed, given that they were holding a chamions league spot for most of the season but couldn't keep it up during the final weeks.

Incoming:
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Outgoing:
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Eintracht Frankfurt was able to beat out Nürnberg during the relegation playoffs, which means only two teams were able to win promotion to the top flight in Germany.
Those two teams are SC Freiburg and RB Leipzig, who'll join the Bunbesliga for the first time and want to take it by storm, being the product of Red Bull financing.

So there you go, this is the Thread for the new Bundsliga season.
Let's have fun, good discussions and enjoy yet another season of Bundesliga football...
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Post#2 » by Arda K » Mon May 30, 2016 8:35 pm

mainz should continue to add more trophies to its cabinet next season
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Post#3 » by Baphomet » Mon May 30, 2016 9:10 pm

Excellent OP, Det.

Now I gotta step it up when I make the 2016-17 Prem thread. :D
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Post#4 » by DD12 » Tue May 31, 2016 12:15 am

I think Bayern will win again. Its a very bold claim.


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Post#5 » by Det the Threat » Tue May 31, 2016 4:43 pm

Baphomet wrote:Excellent OP, Det.

Now I gotta step it up when I make the 2016-17 Prem thread. :D


I'll take a close look at it. :P

Some news:

Like expected, Schalke appoints Markus Weinzierl as their new manager.
Dortmund also seems to be close to signing Bayern midfielder Sebastian Rode, for up to €15M. :o
Midfielder Jonas Meffert will leave Leverkusen and sign for Freiburg.
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Post#6 » by Foye » Tue May 31, 2016 4:44 pm

15 mil. for Rode? Lmao. Half that is already too much for him.
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Post#7 » by Det the Threat » Tue May 31, 2016 7:04 pm

Foye wrote:15 mil. for Rode? Lmao. Half that is already too much for him.


Yeah, it's nuts.
Though, Leverkusen also seems to be asking for €18M from anyone who wants Christoph Kramer. :crazy:
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Post#8 » by Foye » Tue May 31, 2016 9:03 pm

I'm still trying to find out why Leipzig want to invest 20 mil. € in Embolo, too.
They got two solid young strikers already with Poulsen and Selke. Sure Embolo might (or might not - we don't know yet) be an upgrade over them. But it seems the midfield could use those 20 mil. far more than the CF rotation.
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Post#9 » by Det the Threat » Wed Jun 1, 2016 4:33 am

Foye wrote:I'm still trying to find out why Leipzig want to invest 20 mil. € in Embolo, too.
They got two solid young strikers already with Poulsen and Selke. Sure Embolo might (or might not - we don't know yet) be an upgrade over them. But it seems the midfield could use those 20 mil. far more than the CF rotation.


They're also heavily linked to Timo Werner in a €15M move.
Seems like they're trying to collect a lot of younger players and wait to see who's going to work out for them.
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Post#10 » by DD12 » Wed Jun 1, 2016 4:10 pm

Bayern paid 35 mil for Dortmund's top 3 players.
Dortmund paid 25 mil for Bayern's out of rotation player.

I don't know how to laugh at this. It is tragic.
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Post#11 » by Det the Threat » Wed Jun 1, 2016 6:33 pm

DD12 wrote:Bayern paid 35 mil for Dortmund's top 3 players.
Dortmund paid 25 mil for Bayern's out of rotation player.

I don't know how to laugh at this. It is tragic.


They're not.
It's just yet another stupid "article" by Bild who already took down that ridicolous number from it.

And I'm also not sure were you've got that number for those three Dortmund players.
As far as I know 38M(Hummels) + 37M(Götze) is more like 75M, while Lewandowski was paid handsomly for his signing etc.
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Post#12 » by Foye » Thu Jun 2, 2016 7:24 pm

Posted in the wrong thread lol.

No massimo you will not get 40 mil. for an injured Gündogan with like 1 year left. In fact 25 is a good deal given the circumstances.

Bayern got less for a healthy Kroos with 1 year left.
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Post#13 » by DD12 » Thu Jun 2, 2016 11:02 pm

Hire an Italian. He will make sure to get the max from anyone.


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Post#14 » by Det the Threat » Fri Jun 3, 2016 4:41 am

DD12 wrote:Hire an Italian. He will make sure to get the max from anyone.


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Try telling that to Schalke fans who had to endure Roberto di Matteo's 8-0-2 system and were even happy that Breitenreiter was signed.

The guy won the CL with Chelsea but that had more to do with their "run of redemption" for that horrible semifinal against Barca, were the ref screwed them, than anything else.
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Post#15 » by DD12 » Fri Jun 3, 2016 4:43 am

Right but as far as I know coaches do not make negotiations bro. Board members or directors do that.
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Post#16 » by Det the Threat » Fri Jun 3, 2016 7:49 am

DD12 wrote:Right but as far as I know coaches do not make negotiations bro. Board members or directors do that.


What negotiations? For new signings? He had as much as any other Schalke manager before and after.
He's been horrific at Schalke and even worse than Breitenreiter, who wasn't all that good.
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Post#17 » by Foye » Fri Jun 3, 2016 9:23 pm

Rode and Bartra...really Dortmund?
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Post#18 » by Det the Threat » Sat Jun 4, 2016 11:58 am

Seems like Jannik Vestergaard and Christoph Kramer will be announced next week as new signings for Borussia Mönchengladbach.
Also, there's a rumor that we're close to signing Breel Embolo as well.
Not sure how serious the Embolo rumor is though. :dontknow:
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Post#19 » by Foye » Mon Jun 6, 2016 3:34 pm

Det the Threat wrote:Seems like Jannik Vestergaard and Christoph Kramer will be announced next week as new signings for Borussia Mönchengladbach.
Also, there's a rumor that we're close to signing Breel Embolo as well.
Not sure how serious the Embolo rumor is though. :dontknow:


Good move getting Kramer back.

Meanwhile in Mainz new manager seems really busy counting tumble weed or whatever because there are literally no rumors at all. :lol:
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Post#20 » by No_20 » Mon Jun 6, 2016 3:56 pm

Foye wrote:Rode and Bartra...really Dortmund?

You've probably only watched Bartra against Bayern 3 years ago.

If a scrub like Dante can have a good Bundesliga career, so can Bartra.
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