2016 RealGM Soccer Board Draft - Group C (edfmx86, DK-All Day, J-Mezzy, Batu7/BJGOAT3)

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Group C - Round 3 fixtures

Poll ended at Wed Aug 10, 2016 9:30 pm

J-Mezzy over BatuGOAT
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BatuGOAT over J-Mezzy
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No votes
J-Mezzy/BatuGOAT draw
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DK-All Day over edfmx86
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25%
edfmx86 over DK-All Day
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19%
DK-All Day/edfmx86 draw
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6%
 
Total votes: 16

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2016 RealGM Soccer Board Draft - Group C (edfmx86, DK-All Day, J-Mezzy, Batu7/BJGOAT3) 

Post#1 » by Baphomet » Sun Jul 31, 2016 11:20 am

Group C

Post your lineups and tactics here. The polls for the first round of fixtures will open tomorrow, please try and get your tactics in before then. From there on, after the poll has been open for 48 hours the result will be tallied up and next round will begin.

Winner of this group will face the runner up of Group D in the quarter finals and vice versa!

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                      W      D      L      Pts   +/-
J-Mezzy               3      0      0      9     +16
DK-All Day            2      0      1      6     0
Batu7/BJGOAT3         1      0      2      3     -10                     
edfmx86               0      0      3      0     -6


R1
edfmx86 vs. Batu7/BJGOAT3 - 5-6
DK-All Day vs. J-Mezzy - 2-6

R2
edfmx86 vs. J-Mezzy - 3-7
Batu7/BJGOAT3 vs. DK-All Day 2-5

R3
J-Mezzy vs. Batu7/BJGOAT3 - 8-0
DK-All Day vs. edfmx86 - 4-3
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Re: 2016 RealGM Soccer Board Draft - Group C (edfmx86, DK-All Day, J-Mezzy, Batu7/BJGOAT3) 

Post#2 » by J-Mezzy » Sun Jul 31, 2016 10:40 pm

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Starting from the front line, we have Neymar, Dybala and Lucas who are some of the most talented as well as fastest players in the world. Each one of them are very technically gifted and intelligent players that can change the game in our favor with only one moment of brilliance. On defense, they will pressure their opponents and will look to win the ball back as quickly as possible. Once they win the ball back, they will then quickly get down each wing by building up play with simple one touch football. With the ultimate goal in mind of getting to their opponents box and creating goal scoring opportunities before their opponent has any chance to react accordingly. On offense, they will look to patiently build up play through the middle and wings. If we face a team that likes sit back then they will take long shots in order to force the defense to come up. Once they get a hint of space, they will then exploit that space to create opportunities for themselves.

In the middle of the pitch, we have Di Maria, Marchisio and Saul who are all excellent midfielders. Di Maria with his insane amount of stamina will play the box to box role. He will pressure the opponents in our half and will do so until he manages to win the ball back. Once he does, he will then look to lead our attack and create opportunities for our forwards. Marchisio will be responsible for connecting our defense and attack with his simple yet efficient passing. With his high intelligence and great concentration he will sit back in midfield to analyze the other teams movements and then look to win the ball back via interceptions by clogging our opponents passing lanes. Saul will stay back almost acting like a 5th defender and will make sure our opponents are not able to create anything near our box. When our fullbacks go up to attack he will move back to cover either position left behind. During set pieces he will be responsible for marking the opponents best header of the ball.

Ending with the back line, we have Gaya, Vertonghen, Mustafi and Piszczek who form a very solid as well as experienced defense. On offense, our full backs will look to build up play patiently through the wings and middle. On defense, they will look to pressure the opponents in our half until they win the ball back. If one of them wins the ball back, he will then lead the attack himself and create opportunities for others. As for our center backs, Vertonghen will look to pressure and tackle any forwards near our box, when he wins the ball back he will simply pass it off to one of our midfielders. Mustafi will sit back in defense and focus more on winning the ball back through interceptions. If an opponent gets inside the box he will be responsible for making crucial tackles that will prevent our goal from suffering any danger. Any of our defenders that are highly pressured near or in our box will look to immediately clear the ball to avoid any mistakes that could help our opponents.

In goal we Petr Cech, who is one of the best and most experienced goalkeepers in the world. On the bench we have one of the top strikers in La Liga in Gameiro who is wanted by top clubs such as Barcelona and Atletico Madrid. We also have one of the best defensive midfielders from the French league in Fabinho and last but not least we have one of the best young players in the world in Dembele who is a very skilled player that can play on either wing.

Our overall mindset when drafting our players was to create a team with not only the ability to play possession football but also the ability to play counter attacking football. All in all, we feel like we built one of the most talented and one of the most competitive teams in this tournament. A team that has the right mix of youth as well as experience and we are very happy to have succeeded in building our ideal team.
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Re: 2016 RealGM Soccer Board Draft - Group C (edfmx86, DK-All Day, J-Mezzy, Batu7/BJGOAT3) 

Post#3 » by BJGOAT3 » Mon Aug 1, 2016 4:28 am

I just finished moving into a new apartment, so I couldn't speak to Batu or check for the soccer board the last two days. I hope its convenient if we submit our tactics and strategy some time tomorrow after discussing a little.
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Re: 2016 RealGM Soccer Board Draft - Group C (edfmx86, DK-All Day, J-Mezzy, Batu7/BJGOAT3) 

Post#4 » by DK-All Day » Mon Aug 1, 2016 3:19 pm

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Subs:

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FC DK will run out the 4-2-3-1 formation. Tactics coming soon.
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Re: 2016 RealGM Soccer Board Draft - Group C (edfmx86, DK-All Day, J-Mezzy, Batu7/BJGOAT3) 

Post#5 » by edfmx86 » Tue Aug 2, 2016 6:58 pm

CD EDDY'S ELEVEN

First choice eleven -
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4-3-3

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Simon Kjaer (CB)
Sebastion Giovinco (FW)
Bastian Schweinsteiger (MF)
Andre-Pierre Gignac (FW)

My first choice team, rolling with 4-3-3 is built to really put pressure on any teams back line. You will see the midfield free roam a lot pushing forward. Gotze will push forward the most, taking defensive pressure away from a very clinical finisher like Aguero. With Nainngolan's high defensive workrate, he will stay back a little more than the other two midfielders acting more like my teams DM. Hazard and Hulk, two very fast players, roam the wings helping create space and chances for Aguero. Able to cut in at any time, Hulk can help provide an extra element to the front with his strength and speed combo.

Layun and Srna will sit back on defense next to Smalling and Gimenez. With the fire power I got up front, we will rarely see the fullbacks push forward, instead, we will try and keep defensive back line intact to help with potential counter attacks that will likely happen with the rest of the team really pushing forward. I got a good combination of strength, speed and height to really counter and offensive threat coming into out backline, and even if they get passed the defense, we got one of the best in the business in the back, Gianluigi Buffon, the captain of out team.

Overall, a very offensive team who can play long balls and short passes. Players with speed and defensive work rate to neutralize the counter. Great defensive players to manage just about any type of offensive player.

Substitutes,

5-4-1
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This is my go to Park the bus formation. We've added another young centerback to solidify the back line and a true DM to stay back with no real offensive obligations. All while maintaining a capable, fast counter attack.

3-5-2
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This is our all out attack formation. If we need a goal at the death, we add our bench striker Gignac.

As for Giovinco, we can always sub him in as a like for like for Gotze. He adds more speed to our attack.
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Post#6 » by Baphomet » Wed Aug 3, 2016 11:51 am

This is Batu7/BJGOAT's makeshift line-up against edfmx86 that I just made using their players. As soon as you guys see this, please send me a PM and I'll add your preferred tactics/formations in. I gave you plenty of time, but we need to get this group going now.

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I think Mkhitaryan and Ramsey can be interchangable between CM and RW. We saw Ramsey playing on the wing a lot last season and I think he's competent there, and I think he could form a nice rapport with Mkhitaryan. Your team's pretty nice by the way!

Sub: Naldo
Sub: Ansaldi
Sub: Rooney
Sub: Vazquez
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Post#7 » by Ted Lasso » Wed Aug 3, 2016 1:46 pm

edfmx86 v BatuGOAT: edfmx86 once again boasts massive offensive talent, but i think it's a unit which would fail to share the ball cohesively. BatuGOAT's team has great positional discipline and i think they would eek out a professional victory here.

If i were edfmx i would take out Hulk, insert Schweini, and move to a 4-2-3-1 with Pjanic at a deep no 10 and Gotze (he can tuck in at times to create an adv in the middle since you have a locomotive at RB who needs the room anyway) on the right for the next fixture. You can overload on players who need the ball if they are the indirect kind or if some of them are also strong off the ball. Not a good idea to do it with players who are as direct as Hazard, Hulk, and Aguero. Also, Pjanic and Nainggolan need more help.

DK-All Day v J-Mezzy: Very difficult to pick. DK's front six is a wonderfully complementary unit which has the tools to settle into Mezzy's half. However, his back four is woefully slow. Mezzy's probably got the best dribbling trio in the competition but it's difficult to give them all room to function. di Maria has been tried at LCM many times now and the only time it worked was when he had space to run into on the left wing. He's really not a central player and he won't have that space here. I think Saul and Marchisio's positions ought to be switched as well. Saul has never sat in front of the defence and is being used wide now while Marchisio just spent a season proving he is capable of it. Still DK will be in trouble every time Mezzy wins the ball. He hasn't explained what he'd do to remedy a painfully slow defence having to move high up the pitch for long periods. Therefore i'm imagining a draw with many goals.
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Post#8 » by BJGOAT3 » Wed Aug 3, 2016 9:03 pm

Baphomet wrote:This is Batu7/BJGOAT's makeshift line-up against edfmx86 that I just made using their players. As soon as you guys see this, please send me a PM and I'll add your preferred tactics/formations in. I gave you plenty of time, but we need to get this group going now.

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I think Mkhitaryan and Ramsey can be interchangable between CM and RW. We saw Ramsey playing on the wing a lot last season and I think he's competent there, and I think he could form a nice rapport with Mkhitaryan. Your team's pretty nice by the way!

Sub: Naldo
Sub: Ansaldi
Sub: Rooney
Sub: Vazquez


Thanks Bapho, this is actually our primary tactic except for Mkhit and Ramsey's positions exchanged and little less symmetry in the midfield :D

The philosophy of this team is discipline. We have players with very high defensive work rate on the midfield with great ability to win the ball and disturb the opposition, who are also strong in passing, ball security and dribbling. The midfield is the primary line of defence, we believe we can prevent opposing teams from creating chances by possession or passing, win the ball and initiate dangerous counter attacks. The defensive line is centred by the Godin-Manolas duo, who have great height at 187 and 189 cm's(with the substitute Naldo at 198 cm's) along with support from 194 cm Matic, all of whom are very strong in aerial duties, giving us a solid defensive line against teams that operate from the flanks, or against target men or true number 9's. The central defensive unit puts a high barrier of entry to our box against crosses or long balls that are pumped from the opposition half. At the goal, we have arguably the best goalkeeper in the world, who has amazing command over the defensive line and the box. Essentially, our team has perfect tools to play a very compact defence within its half, that can force lots of lost balls by tackling and interceptions in the midfield.

On offence, the team is primarily steamed by its wings. We have a midfield of Matic-Dembele-Ramsey, all of whom are capable passers that can direct the teams attacks to the wings. Ramsey takes the role of main orchestrator in the midfield, whereas the main creativity comes from Mkhitaryan and Gaitan. The wing oriented attack is perfectly complemented by Lukaku. Moreover, the team has great capability to play in the opposition's half as well, with great supporting fullbacks like Philippe Lahm and Kurzawa, both are great passers and have great ball control which can support the midfield on attack. Not to mention, we have a great passing central defender in Manolas, and arguably the best sweeper keeper in the world in Neuer, which gives us amazing flexibility to convert our style from counter attack to possession football as we wish, which in our opinion makes us a very dangerous team to deal with.

Our secondary tactics are coming soon. Thanks everyone for their patience.
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Post#9 » by Baphomet » Wed Aug 3, 2016 9:16 pm

The thing that I like about your team is that it's fluid. Dembele, Mkhitaryan, Ramsey and Gaitan can all essentially operate in any part of the attacking midfield, or on either wing. They all possess excellent tactical discipline. With the exception of Matic who is obviously more suited to the holding role, I could have configured that team in many ways without raising too many a brow.

edfmx has probably the most insane attack in the group and would probably score on any defence, even considering DK's intimidating attacking midfield trio, which is why I voted for a draw in your match. However, I like all four teams in this group a fair bit.
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Re: 2016 RealGM Soccer Board Draft - Group C (edfmx86, DK-All Day, J-Mezzy, Batu7/BJGOAT3) 

Post#10 » by Batu7 » Thu Aug 4, 2016 11:14 am

Hello everyone,

I'd like to present our alternative, "defensive" formation. This is like an unorthodox 5-3-2 formation but with Matic playing a little up front to support and further congest the midfield. His tackling, interceptions and passing ability will be vital as both the defensive midfielder and "shadow" defender when needed. The aerial advantage of Manolas, Godin and Matic come handy here as well, dealing with any possible long ball to the third area. Both Kurzawa and Lahm are comfortable with the ball and can come in as an additional midfielder while becoming a reliable passing option to open up the play when needed. Their versatility will allow us to have a good passing game in midfield while most probably outnumbering the opposition and having the best chance to win the ball/not allowing anyone to go through. They are also pretty good defenders which will make unlocking our back five harder, especially with the aerial advantage and interceptions of Kurzawa combined with the defensive genius of Lahm. I believe these players will create a good balance defensively in both defense and midfield thanks to the aforementioned tactical discipline, it will be very hard to score on us. Also, like BJGOAT3 stated, we have possibly the best goalkeeper in the world.

The offense is a different approach. Thanks to Roberto Martinez' defensive atrocity, Lukaku didn't bother to do much defending this season and we'll probably be keeping him that way. We also plan to be more direct in attacking which will benefit him more. He's a lethal threat in the penalty area, certainly isn't afraid to shoot and when he shoots, the ball's most likely going to hit the target, something that is evidenced by his shot accuracy of 56%. He's got good attack positioning, he's fast enough and can dribble the ball at a good rate and he's pretty big and damn strong that gives him an edge to score aerially, so good luck to anyone who's trying to contain him. We can pass pinpoint through balls to his way, have low and hard crosses in which he'll find the space to tap it in, or float a good cross where he'll overpower his defender and head it home, all scenarios he has scored last season. There's a reason why Everton's asking £75 million for him.

Franco Vazquez is the real difference maker here. With our defense being set, he's going to have freedom on offense. He's had the most dribbles accompanied by 8 assists last season, qualities which we will try to use to feed Lukaku and create offense for our other attackers such as Mkhitaryan or an overlapping Kurzawa. He scored 7 goals as well and he will be a threat from outside. He was also by far the most fouled player in Serie A(5,5 per game), something that would result in creating many free kicks which may be a good opportunity to score directly or indirectly. Along with all this offensive load, he can also provide adequate defensive cover especially with his tackling, which would be more than enough for his position and strengthens our overall defense. Also, the movement of Mkhitaryan provides fluidity in the offense and when you factor in his pace and dribbling, it opens up opportunities for everyone. The assist leader in the Bundesliga last season, the Armenian is also a goalscoring threat with 11 on the charts. Ramsey can also move to the wings when needed and may stretch the opposition defense which may prove to be valuable in a counter attack. Our midfield's passing will be an important asset to have a more direct style in attack.

Really sorry for the late posting, I hope we didn't delay the processing of the tournament too much.
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Post#11 » by Ted Lasso » Thu Aug 4, 2016 5:50 pm

This is basically a 4-3-1-2 with an extra deep holder? I'm curious, why did you place Ramsey and Dembele off-foot when you could just have them in their natural spots?
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Post#12 » by Batu7 » Fri Aug 5, 2016 6:11 am

Ted Lasso wrote:This is basically a 4-3-1-2 with an extra deep holder? I'm curious, why did you place Ramsey and Dembele off-foot when you could just have them in their natural spots?

I wish I had a smartass tactical answer to this, but I got distracted because I did this when I was at work and lacking sleep. Consider them to be at their natural spots please.
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Post#13 » by Baphomet » Fri Aug 5, 2016 12:00 pm

BatuGOAT defeats edfmx86 - 6-5 (closest one yet!)
J-Mezzy defeats DK-All Day - 6-2

You guys have a slightly shorter period now, so if you plan on posting match-specific tactics for round 2, please do so ASAP before the polls open tonight (I'm going to say about 10pm GMT).
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Post#14 » by Batu7 » Fri Aug 5, 2016 12:14 pm

Baphomet wrote:edfmx86 defeats BatuGOAT - 6-5 (closest one yet!)
J-Mezzy defeats DK-All Day - 6-2

You guys have a slightly shorter period now, so if you plan on posting match-specific tactics for round 2, please do so ASAP before the polls open tonight (I'm going to say about 10pm GMT).

I may be mistaken, but the poll on top of the thread says we won?

edfmx86 over Batu7/BJGOAT3
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21%
Batu7/BJGOAT3 over edfmx86
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Post#15 » by Baphomet » Fri Aug 5, 2016 12:33 pm

Batu7 wrote:
Baphomet wrote:edfmx86 defeats BatuGOAT - 6-5 (closest one yet!)
J-Mezzy defeats DK-All Day - 6-2

You guys have a slightly shorter period now, so if you plan on posting match-specific tactics for round 2, please do so ASAP before the polls open tonight (I'm going to say about 10pm GMT).

I may be mistaken, but the poll on top of the thread says we won?

edfmx86 over Batu7/BJGOAT3
5
21%
Batu7/BJGOAT3 over edfmx86
6
25%


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Pretty terrible reading error on my part

Blame that on my incompetence, sorry about that. I fixed my posts and the tables.
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Re: 2016 RealGM Soccer Board Draft - Group C (edfmx86, DK-All Day, J-Mezzy, Batu7/BJGOAT3) 

Post#16 » by J-Mezzy » Fri Aug 5, 2016 5:32 pm

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Changes:

1. Di Maria will play as an attacking midfielder. On offense he will look to create opportunities for himself or for others. On defense he will track back to help our midfield by hassling opposing players and looking to win the ball back so he can then quickly start a counter attack.

2. Saul will play as a box to box midfielder. On offense he will venture forward to help out in our attacks with his good ability to hold on to the ball, dribble and then pass it off to our forwards or he will simply be another passing option near or inside the box to receive the ball for either a long shot or a header. On defense he will run back to help in our half of the field with his good tackling, intercepting, and blocking abilities as well as his strong ability to win aerial duels.

3. Marchisio will play as a deep lying play maker. On offense he will be responsible for connecting our defense as well as offense with his intelligent and efficient passing. On defense, he will look to intercept the ball by clogging passing lanes with his great defensive concentration.
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Post#17 » by Baphomet » Fri Aug 5, 2016 11:14 pm

I won't post my analysis on this round just yet for this group, but I'm intrigued by how close these matches are so far.
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Post#18 » by Ted Lasso » Sun Aug 7, 2016 2:33 am

edfmx86 v J-Mezzy: Two very similar teams. In short, Mezzy's team is better in their current forms. The changes make di Maria a more static player, but that's better than hurting both himself and Neymar and i love what Mezzy is thinking defensively. It's the sort of thing that edfmx could never get from his counterpart, Gotze.

BatuGOAT v DK-All Day: These teams would trouble each other. I think it's a result of the nature of DK's team, really. That front four is a thing of beauty, and i don't think the changes BatuGOAT made are fitting for this match-up. On the other hand, any team with Ozil at No 10 has to defend with two blocks of four and that shape (in combination with the talent juxtaposition) is ill-fitting for the threats they'll face here. So i'm gonna go with a draw.
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Post#19 » by Baphomet » Sun Aug 7, 2016 9:34 pm

J-Mezzy defeats edfmx86 - 7-3
DK-All Day defeats BatuGOAT 5-2
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Re: 2016 RealGM Soccer Board Draft - Group C (edfmx86, DK-All Day, J-Mezzy, Batu7/BJGOAT3) 

Post#20 » by J-Mezzy » Mon Aug 8, 2016 8:50 pm

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Changes:

1. Di Maria will play as an attacking midfielder. On offense he will look to create opportunities for himself or for others. On defense he will track back to help our midfield by hassling opposing players and looking to win the ball back so he can then quickly start a counter attack.

2. Saul will play as a box to box midfielder. On offense he will venture forward to help out in our attacks with his good ability to hold on to the ball, dribble and then pass it off to our forwards or he will simply be another passing option near or inside the box to receive the ball for either a long shot or a header. On defense he will run back to help in our half of the field with his good tackling, intercepting, and blocking abilities as well as his strong ability to win aerial duels.

3. Marchisio will play as a deep lying play maker. On offense he will be responsible for connecting our defense as well as offense with his intelligent and efficient passing. On defense, he will look to intercept the ball by clogging passing lanes with his great defensive concentration.

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