2016 RealGM Soccer Board Draft - Group D (kdawg32086, Baphomet, Fury, sleepyPT)
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Re: 2016 RealGM Soccer Board Draft - Group D (kdawg32086, Baphomet, Fury, sleepyPT)
And just for the record, Kroos, Banega, and Alves are some of the better crosses in La Liga. Salah is top 10 in Serie A in key passes, while both Salah and Perisic are inside the top 20 in assists. Vidal top 20 in key passes and assists dude does everything.
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Re: 2016 RealGM Soccer Board Draft - Group D (kdawg32086, Baphomet, Fury, sleepyPT)
Fury wrote:Matty wrote:kdawg32086 vs. sleepyPT = Strong midfield but the players up front could be better for kdawg. It's not good when I hear more about them scoring ex-wives than goals lol. Both have strong defences so it will be a close call decided by a goal and sleepy has more quality to counter attack and break down the 3-man back line so I'll give the advantage to him. Very tight match-ups though.
Baphomet over Fury = Once again, strong midfield but not enough to show for upfront. None of Chicarito/Perisic/Salah have that it factor to make something happen in that box area without solid wing support and against Baph who has that in Suarez and quick flank players in Costa and Carra, he needs minimal possession of the ball. This really could go either way simply because a Kroos-Vidal duo could command a 60% possession but we all know that means little when you don't have quality independent scoring. I've watched Chica enough to know he's a system player that needs guys like Bellarabi, or a united system of crossing every freaking ball in the box.
Dani Alves assisted Messi more than any other Barca player. Fullbacks and cbs get no respect in this competition.
That's also because they play on the same side of the pitch, and that has a little do to with Messi as well.
I'm sure the best player in the world won't miss a beat when he starts the season without Alves behind him.
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Fury, put your team back up please. Some of us haven't voted yet. You're being a child.
Still waiting for kdawg to let us know which lineup he is using, by the way. I'm surprised his match has received 10 votes already.
Still waiting for kdawg to let us know which lineup he is using, by the way. I'm surprised his match has received 10 votes already.
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Re: 2016 RealGM Soccer Board Draft - Group D (kdawg32086, Baphomet, Fury, sleepyPT)
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Still waiting for kdawg to let us know which lineup he is using, by the way. I'm surprised his match has received 10 votes already.
It's probably because people are just going with his Tiki-Taka formation as the default formation to judge his first match up. Now I can't say that he would have specified using the Tiki-Taka formation for the first match up but I can say that, this is the first formation he was working on way before the draft was even finished. I know this because we where playing a guessing game on what his formation was going to be and I eventually guessed it right.
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sleepyvato wrote:Ted Lasso wrote:
Still waiting for kdawg to let us know which lineup he is using, by the way. I'm surprised his match has received 10 votes already.
It's probably because people are just going with his Tiki-Taka formation as the default formation to judge his first match up. Now I can't say that he would have specified using the Tiki-Taka formation for the first match up but I can say that, this is the first formation he was working on way before the draft was even finished. I know this because we where playing a guessing game on what his formation was going to be and I eventually guessed it right.
I remember that, it's a good point. I might as well vote then. Doesn't look like kdawg is showing up soon anyway.
I will post my analysis of your match-up in a bit. As for Baph v Fury, i guess we'll have to wait for Fury to return from grade school and put his team back up.
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Ted Lasso wrote:
I remember that, it's a good point. I might as well vote then. Doesn't look like kdawg is showing up soon anyway.
I will post my analysis of your match-up in a bit. As for Baph v Fury, i guess we'll have to wait for Fury to return from grade school and put his team back up.
I actually have his formations and tactics saved for analyzing purposes, if you want, I could post them here so you can analyze the Baph vs Fury match up right away.
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sleepyvato wrote:Ted Lasso wrote:
I remember that, it's a good point. I might as well vote then. Doesn't look like kdawg is showing up soon anyway.
I will post my analysis of your match-up in a bit. As for Baph v Fury, i guess we'll have to wait for Fury to return from grade school and put his team back up.
I actually have his formations and tactics saved for analyzing purposes, if you want, I could post them here so you can analyze the Baph vs Fury match up right away.
Good man, I was hoping that somebody would have done this.
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Re: 2016 RealGM Soccer Board Draft - Group D (kdawg32086, Baphomet, Fury, sleepyPT)
Here are Fury's formations and tactics.
Standard Offensive Formation:
Our team is driven by our midfield and the fullbacks. Kroos is the facilitator/organizer, who is able to hold his own helping out on defense. He is our most important player because he connects both sides of the field. Vidal is the box to box midfielder, and will be allowed to beast and roam both sides of the field. He is savvy enough to go forward and still get back on defense. Krychowiak is the destroyer and the shield for the front four. He is also good enough to make passes out of that holding position.
I selected Alves and Guerreiro because they are capable bombing down the field and getting back (Alves moreso). Perisic will help out Guerreiro on the left side and Alves going forward will allow Salah to become somewhat of a second striker/wide inverted forward.
Chicharito is the man in the middle, getting those passes from everyone else in the midfield. Salah is explosive, technically solid and a strong finisher from the right side.
Bench Players: Aduriz, Glik, Boufal, Banega
Alternative Formation:
If we want to get more offensive, we stick Aduriz with Chicharito in there and add Banega to add more facilitation and connection with the guys behind them. Alves and Guerreiro provide the width and Vidal and Kroos are capable enough to help cover.
Standard Offensive Formation:
Our team is driven by our midfield and the fullbacks. Kroos is the facilitator/organizer, who is able to hold his own helping out on defense. He is our most important player because he connects both sides of the field. Vidal is the box to box midfielder, and will be allowed to beast and roam both sides of the field. He is savvy enough to go forward and still get back on defense. Krychowiak is the destroyer and the shield for the front four. He is also good enough to make passes out of that holding position.
I selected Alves and Guerreiro because they are capable bombing down the field and getting back (Alves moreso). Perisic will help out Guerreiro on the left side and Alves going forward will allow Salah to become somewhat of a second striker/wide inverted forward.
Chicharito is the man in the middle, getting those passes from everyone else in the midfield. Salah is explosive, technically solid and a strong finisher from the right side.
Bench Players: Aduriz, Glik, Boufal, Banega
Alternative Formation:
If we want to get more offensive, we stick Aduriz with Chicharito in there and add Banega to add more facilitation and connection with the guys behind them. Alves and Guerreiro provide the width and Vidal and Kroos are capable enough to help cover.
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Re: 2016 RealGM Soccer Board Draft - Group D (kdawg32086, Baphomet, Fury, sleepyPT)
kdawg32086 v sleepyPT: kdawg's shape can be made to work but not with these players. Not really much else to analyse. I don't like Griezmann out wide but this is still a win for sleepPT.
Baphomet v Fury: Draw for me. With Baph's collection of midfielders (and wingers who don't come inside), if you tell Matuidi to sit deep you're taking away his strength, all of a sudden creating a static midfield in key areas, giving in to Fury's stronghold, and allowing him to balance the game. Add to that the fact that it' as 4-3-3 v a 4-2-3-1 and you have a case where the teams neutralise each other for a draw, likely a 0-0. There are other reasons why i've arrived at that conclusion regarding the characteristics of the players involved but i don't want to say too much about this one.
Baphomet v Fury: Draw for me. With Baph's collection of midfielders (and wingers who don't come inside), if you tell Matuidi to sit deep you're taking away his strength, all of a sudden creating a static midfield in key areas, giving in to Fury's stronghold, and allowing him to balance the game. Add to that the fact that it' as 4-3-3 v a 4-2-3-1 and you have a case where the teams neutralise each other for a draw, likely a 0-0. There are other reasons why i've arrived at that conclusion regarding the characteristics of the players involved but i don't want to say too much about this one.
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Ted Lasso wrote:kdawg32086 v sleepyPT: kdawg's shape can be made to work but not with these players. Not really much else to analyse. I don't like Griezmann out wide but this is still a win for sleepPT.
Well he starts out wide but he drifts inside the box on offense, with Alaba providing width on the left wing.
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sleepyvato wrote:Ted Lasso wrote:kdawg32086 v sleepyPT: kdawg's shape can be made to work but not with these players. Not really much else to analyse. I don't like Griezmann out wide but this is still a win for sleepPT.
Well he starts out wide but he drifts inside the box on offense, with Alaba providing width on the left wing.
He's not great at that though.
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He's not great at that though.
Griezmann or Alaba?
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sleepyvato wrote:Ted Lasso wrote:
He's not great at that though.
Griezmann or Alaba?
Griezmann
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Griezmann
Gotcha.
What are your thoughts on Eriksen out wide on the left wing/side?
Thanks for your thoughts.
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sleepyvato wrote:Ted Lasso wrote:
Griezmann
Gotcha.
What are your thoughts on Eriksen out wide on the left wing/side?
Thanks for your thoughts.
Surprisingly good. He did it most of last season. I'm happy to comment.
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Just fyi Ted, I would never complain about someone voting against me. Everyone's entitled to their opinion.
I lost to a team with Sterling in it last year. Sterling!
I lost to a team with Sterling in it last year. Sterling!
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Ted Lasso wrote:sleepyvato wrote:Ted Lasso wrote:
Griezmann
Gotcha.
What are your thoughts on Eriksen out wide on the left wing/side?
Thanks for your thoughts.
Surprisingly good. He did it most of last season. I'm happy to comment.
Yeah, with Alli mostly playing through the middle it means Eriksen mostly plays out wide on the left side. It works, because he likes to cut inside and create from there, and it gives Danny Rose space to attack that flank. It works out pretty well for everyone involved.
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Baphomet wrote:Just fyi Ted, I would never complain about someone voting against me. Everyone's entitled to their opinion.
I lost to a team with Sterling in it last year. Sterling!
Hahah yeah, i am well aware of that.
And neither would i ideally, but Foye did mention in my group's thread that Cavani might get in Messi's way on my team. I actually picked Cavani specifically because he is one of 4-5 high level strikers who can offensively share space with and defensively enable Messi in my personal opinion. So at the moment i'm trying to decide whether a tantrum is necessary.
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Ted Lasso wrote:kdawg32086 v sleepyPT: kdawg's shape can be made to work but not with these players. Not really much else to analyse. I don't like Griezmann out wide but this is still a win for sleepPT.
The reason we had Griezmann on the left and not Eriksen is because the latter is a better playmaker than the first and so he should be in a position were both forwards and striker can benefit from, the middle. However being Griezmann better in the centre of the field, we had him drift inside when attacking, as Alaba plays winger. That way we can use the most of all players abilities without having to compromise, imo.
Appreciate your vote, by the way
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