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Like I've said before.
Ramos "Man of the Match".
First he takes out Salah(I doubt he really went into it to badly injure him, but he knew what he was doing and didn't mind risking an injury of the player) and then that.
But I'm pretty sure hardly anyone will really talk about it and on the other side, that Liverpool had about 60 minutes to react to it and finished the game with one yellow card.
That's also a reason why they lost, cause everyone knew what Ramos had done and they didn't really get back at them(not trying to injure players, but putting in a couple of solid tackles) for it.
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JohnPferdelack wrote:Very sad for Klopp...
Could be the easiest CL-year for Real, couldn't be?
After beating PSG, Bayern and Juve, that's your statement?
C'mon.
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And it's karma for benching Mignolet for no reason.
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The_Brecht wrote:JohnPferdelack wrote:Very sad for Klopp...
Could be the easiest CL-year for Real, couldn't be?
After beating PSG, Bayern and Juve, that's your statement?
C'mon.
PSG - overrated team!
Bayern - Bayern had their chances....and Real "had" Ullreich.
Juve - lucky.
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Det the Threat wrote:humanrefutation wrote:
Like I've said before.
Ramos "Man of the Match".
First he takes out Salah(I doubt he really went into it to badly injure him, but he knew what he was doing and didn't mind risking an injury of the player) and then that.
But I'm pretty sure hardly anyone will really talk about it and on the other side, that Liverpool had about 60 minutes to react to it and finished the game with one yellow card.
That's also a reason why they lost, cause everyone knew what Ramos had done and they didn't really get back at them(not trying to injure players, but putting in a couple of solid tackles) for it.
But it's also on Karius to signal that he needs to be subbed out, if it's a concussion. Cause that performance was just putrid
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Really a terrible year of CL football. This Real team is not that good, the other teams still managed to be worse.
Oh and **** Sergio Ramos.
Oh and **** Sergio Ramos.
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JohnPferdelack wrote:The_Brecht wrote:JohnPferdelack wrote:Very sad for Klopp...
Could be the easiest CL-year for Real, couldn't be?
After beating PSG, Bayern and Juve, that's your statement?
C'mon.
PSG - overrated team!
Bayern - Bayern had their chances....and Real "had" Ullreich.
Juve - lucky.
Still al three champions in their domestic league.
Easy is not the right word.
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No need to look for excuses - and I quickly mention that a lot of Liverpool fans aren't.
Better team on the night won easily.
Liverpool need to score first and early to win games - they had 30 mins with Salah and didn't look like scoring. It was clear that Real would weather the enthusiastic closing down and be the better team later in the game.
Congrats to RM fans.
Better team on the night won easily.
Liverpool need to score first and early to win games - they had 30 mins with Salah and didn't look like scoring. It was clear that Real would weather the enthusiastic closing down and be the better team later in the game.
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HIF wrote:No need to look for excuses - and I quickly mention that a lot of Liverpool fans aren't.
Better team on the night won easily.
Liverpool need to score first and early to win games - they had 30 mins with Salah and didn't look like scoring.
Did you actually watch the game? Because that's frankly untrue. Liverpool looked dangerous in those first 25-30 minutes and dictated the pace. To say that they needed to score early isn't entirely accurate - they have won many matches this season by building momentum and dropping the hammer at the end of the first half and during the first 15-20 minutes of the second half.
I'm not saying that they would have won with Salah, but the match would have been considerably more compelling with him on the pitch - especially considering that, but-for Karius's blunders, it was a 1-1 match.
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humanrefutation wrote:HIF wrote:No need to look for excuses - and I quickly mention that a lot of Liverpool fans aren't.
Better team on the night won easily.
Liverpool need to score first and early to win games - they had 30 mins with Salah and didn't look like scoring.
Did you actually watch the game? Because that's frankly untrue. Liverpool looked dangerous in those first 25-30 minutes and dictated the pace. To say that they needed to score early isn't entirely accurate - they have won many matches this season by building momentum and dropping the hammer at the end of the first half and during the first 15-20 minutes of the second half.
I'm not saying that they would have won with Salah, but the match would have been considerably more compelling with him on the pitch - especially considering that, but-for Karius's blunders, it was a 1-1 match.
That falls mainly on Klopp & the club for not providing better depth behind the starters. It's been a problem all season. Completely different team without Mo on the pitch. One injury to VVD as well, and the club is also in big trouble (Exposing Lovren). This Summer should be about adding more depth to the squad as a whole. Another Keeper, CB, MF, etc.
Madrid meanwhile has Bale coming off the bench. Must be nice.
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Cactus Jack wrote:humanrefutation wrote:HIF wrote:No need to look for excuses - and I quickly mention that a lot of Liverpool fans aren't.
Better team on the night won easily.
Liverpool need to score first and early to win games - they had 30 mins with Salah and didn't look like scoring.
Did you actually watch the game? Because that's frankly untrue. Liverpool looked dangerous in those first 25-30 minutes and dictated the pace. To say that they needed to score early isn't entirely accurate - they have won many matches this season by building momentum and dropping the hammer at the end of the first half and during the first 15-20 minutes of the second half.
I'm not saying that they would have won with Salah, but the match would have been considerably more compelling with him on the pitch - especially considering that, but-for Karius's blunders, it was a 1-1 match.
That falls mainly on Klopp & the club for not providing better depth behind the starters. It's been a problem all season. Completely different team without Mo on the pitch. One injury to VVD as well, and the club is also in big trouble (Exposing Lovren). This Summer should be about adding more depth to the squad as a whole. Another Keeper, CB, MF, etc.
Madrid meanwhile has Bale coming off the bench. Must be nice.
It takes years to build that kind of depth, especially with missing Ox, Lallana, Can, and Matip down the stretch.
I suspect this window will help him add a few more pieces. Keita already on the way in. Maybe Fekir or Lemar. Make a run at Alisson or Oblak.
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humanrefutation wrote:Cactus Jack wrote:humanrefutation wrote:
Did you actually watch the game? Because that's frankly untrue. Liverpool looked dangerous in those first 25-30 minutes and dictated the pace. To say that they needed to score early isn't entirely accurate - they have won many matches this season by building momentum and dropping the hammer at the end of the first half and during the first 15-20 minutes of the second half.
I'm not saying that they would have won with Salah, but the match would have been considerably more compelling with him on the pitch - especially considering that, but-for Karius's blunders, it was a 1-1 match.
That falls mainly on Klopp & the club for not providing better depth behind the starters. It's been a problem all season. Completely different team without Mo on the pitch. One injury to VVD as well, and the club is also in big trouble (Exposing Lovren). This Summer should be about adding more depth to the squad as a whole. Another Keeper, CB, MF, etc.
Madrid meanwhile has Bale coming off the bench. Must be nice.
It takes years to build that kind of depth, especially with missing Ox, Lallana, Can, and Matip down the stretch.
I suspect this window will help him add a few more pieces. Keita already on the way in. Maybe Fekir or Lemar. Make a run at Alisson or Oblak.
Ox going down was a big blow no doubt. Lallana is useful. But, he can't be counted on in that spot imo. Again, that goes back to lacking depth behind the front three. Not having Coutinho in that instance came back to bite them.
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Cactus Jack wrote:humanrefutation wrote:Cactus Jack wrote:That falls mainly on Klopp & the club for not providing better depth behind the starters. It's been a problem all season. Completely different team without Mo on the pitch. One injury to VVD as well, and the club is also in big trouble (Exposing Lovren). This Summer should be about adding more depth to the squad as a whole. Another Keeper, CB, MF, etc.
Madrid meanwhile has Bale coming off the bench. Must be nice.
It takes years to build that kind of depth, especially with missing Ox, Lallana, Can, and Matip down the stretch.
I suspect this window will help him add a few more pieces. Keita already on the way in. Maybe Fekir or Lemar. Make a run at Alisson or Oblak.
Ox going down was a big blow no doubt. Lallana is useful. But, he can't be counted on in that spot imo. Again, that goes back to lacking depth behind the front three. Not having Coutinho in that instance came back to bite them.
I should also mention Ben Woodburn, Harry Wilson, and hopefully Rhian Brewster (if he doesn't leave for the Bundesliga) could be nice squad pieces next season.
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Liverpool really dominated the first 20 minutes or so. After that Salah injury, Real absolutely dominated the game.
Real Madrid is a very good, but not great team. They are vets and did exactly what they had to to win. Liverpool's issues with GK and lack of depth were exposed. As a Liverpool fan, I think the Salah injury was one of the dirtiest things I have seen in sports. That said, I'm not sure it changes the game. Liverpool eventually would have tired and then Real would have dominated, pulled from their stacked bench and won. When you look at the whole roster and add in the experience factor RM was clearly the better team.
Real Madrid is a very good, but not great team. They are vets and did exactly what they had to to win. Liverpool's issues with GK and lack of depth were exposed. As a Liverpool fan, I think the Salah injury was one of the dirtiest things I have seen in sports. That said, I'm not sure it changes the game. Liverpool eventually would have tired and then Real would have dominated, pulled from their stacked bench and won. When you look at the whole roster and add in the experience factor RM was clearly the better team.
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coldfish wrote:Liverpool really dominated the first 20 minutes or so. After that Salah injury, Real absolutely dominated the game.
Real Madrid is a very good, but not great team. They are vets and did exactly what they had to to win. Liverpool's issues with GK and lack of depth were exposed. As a Liverpool fan, I think the Salah injury was one of the dirtiest things I have seen in sports. That said, I'm not sure it changes the game. Liverpool eventually would have tired and then Real would have dominated, pulled from their stacked bench and won. When you look at the whole roster and add in the experience factor RM was clearly the better team.
Definitely worse than last year IMO.
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LOL! I'm stunned at how well I took that L on Saturday. Sucks that we gave them two freebies but that Bale goal deserved to be the winner. SENSATIONAL!
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This wasn't Real's strongest team in the last 4-5 campaigns but hats off to my boys. Didn't think we would pull it off(save Ramos' sneaky dirty play) but 3 in a row!!!!!
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Unlucky and terrible from Liverpool goalie, felt bad for him.
Bale's goal... left me shaking! lol
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