2017-18 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

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Post#903 » by Det the Threat » Sun May 27, 2018 7:34 am

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Like I've said before.
Ramos "Man of the Match".
First he takes out Salah(I doubt he really went into it to badly injure him, but he knew what he was doing and didn't mind risking an injury of the player) and then that.

But I'm pretty sure hardly anyone will really talk about it and on the other side, that Liverpool had about 60 minutes to react to it and finished the game with one yellow card.
That's also a reason why they lost, cause everyone knew what Ramos had done and they didn't really get back at them(not trying to injure players, but putting in a couple of solid tackles) for it.
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Post#904 » by The_Brecht » Sun May 27, 2018 8:55 am

JohnPferdelack wrote:Very sad for Klopp...
Could be the easiest CL-year for Real, couldn't be?


After beating PSG, Bayern and Juve, that's your statement?
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Post#905 » by The_Brecht » Sun May 27, 2018 8:57 am

And it's karma for benching Mignolet for no reason.
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Re: 2017-18 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread 

Post#906 » by JohnPferdelack » Sun May 27, 2018 10:11 am

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JohnPferdelack wrote:Very sad for Klopp...
Could be the easiest CL-year for Real, couldn't be?


After beating PSG, Bayern and Juve, that's your statement?
C'mon.


PSG - overrated team!
Bayern - Bayern had their chances....and Real "had" Ullreich.
Juve - lucky.
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Post#907 » by lambchop » Sun May 27, 2018 11:02 am

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Like I've said before.
Ramos "Man of the Match".
First he takes out Salah(I doubt he really went into it to badly injure him, but he knew what he was doing and didn't mind risking an injury of the player) and then that.

But I'm pretty sure hardly anyone will really talk about it and on the other side, that Liverpool had about 60 minutes to react to it and finished the game with one yellow card.
That's also a reason why they lost, cause everyone knew what Ramos had done and they didn't really get back at them(not trying to injure players, but putting in a couple of solid tackles) for it.




But it's also on Karius to signal that he needs to be subbed out, if it's a concussion. Cause that performance was just putrid
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Post#908 » by Andi Obst » Sun May 27, 2018 11:30 am

Really a terrible year of CL football. This Real team is not that good, the other teams still managed to be worse.

Oh and **** Sergio Ramos.
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Post#909 » by The_Brecht » Sun May 27, 2018 11:44 am

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JohnPferdelack wrote:Very sad for Klopp...
Could be the easiest CL-year for Real, couldn't be?


After beating PSG, Bayern and Juve, that's your statement?
C'mon.


PSG - overrated team!
Bayern - Bayern had their chances....and Real "had" Ullreich.
Juve - lucky.


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Post#910 » by HIF » Sun May 27, 2018 11:55 am

No need to look for excuses - and I quickly mention that a lot of Liverpool fans aren't.

Better team on the night won easily.

Liverpool need to score first and early to win games - they had 30 mins with Salah and didn't look like scoring. It was clear that Real would weather the enthusiastic closing down and be the better team later in the game.

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Post#911 » by humanrefutation » Sun May 27, 2018 5:57 pm

HIF wrote:No need to look for excuses - and I quickly mention that a lot of Liverpool fans aren't.

Better team on the night won easily.

Liverpool need to score first and early to win games - they had 30 mins with Salah and didn't look like scoring.


Did you actually watch the game? Because that's frankly untrue. Liverpool looked dangerous in those first 25-30 minutes and dictated the pace. To say that they needed to score early isn't entirely accurate - they have won many matches this season by building momentum and dropping the hammer at the end of the first half and during the first 15-20 minutes of the second half.

I'm not saying that they would have won with Salah, but the match would have been considerably more compelling with him on the pitch - especially considering that, but-for Karius's blunders, it was a 1-1 match.

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Post#912 » by Cactus Jack » Sun May 27, 2018 6:11 pm

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HIF wrote:No need to look for excuses - and I quickly mention that a lot of Liverpool fans aren't.

Better team on the night won easily.

Liverpool need to score first and early to win games - they had 30 mins with Salah and didn't look like scoring.


Did you actually watch the game? Because that's frankly untrue. Liverpool looked dangerous in those first 25-30 minutes and dictated the pace. To say that they needed to score early isn't entirely accurate - they have won many matches this season by building momentum and dropping the hammer at the end of the first half and during the first 15-20 minutes of the second half.

I'm not saying that they would have won with Salah, but the match would have been considerably more compelling with him on the pitch - especially considering that, but-for Karius's blunders, it was a 1-1 match.

That falls mainly on Klopp & the club for not providing better depth behind the starters. It's been a problem all season. Completely different team without Mo on the pitch. One injury to VVD as well, and the club is also in big trouble (Exposing Lovren). This Summer should be about adding more depth to the squad as a whole. Another Keeper, CB, MF, etc.

Madrid meanwhile has Bale coming off the bench. Must be nice. :roll:
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Post#913 » by humanrefutation » Sun May 27, 2018 6:16 pm

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HIF wrote:No need to look for excuses - and I quickly mention that a lot of Liverpool fans aren't.

Better team on the night won easily.

Liverpool need to score first and early to win games - they had 30 mins with Salah and didn't look like scoring.


Did you actually watch the game? Because that's frankly untrue. Liverpool looked dangerous in those first 25-30 minutes and dictated the pace. To say that they needed to score early isn't entirely accurate - they have won many matches this season by building momentum and dropping the hammer at the end of the first half and during the first 15-20 minutes of the second half.

I'm not saying that they would have won with Salah, but the match would have been considerably more compelling with him on the pitch - especially considering that, but-for Karius's blunders, it was a 1-1 match.

That falls mainly on Klopp & the club for not providing better depth behind the starters. It's been a problem all season. Completely different team without Mo on the pitch. One injury to VVD as well, and the club is also in big trouble (Exposing Lovren). This Summer should be about adding more depth to the squad as a whole. Another Keeper, CB, MF, etc.

Madrid meanwhile has Bale coming off the bench. Must be nice.


It takes years to build that kind of depth, especially with missing Ox, Lallana, Can, and Matip down the stretch.

I suspect this window will help him add a few more pieces. Keita already on the way in. Maybe Fekir or Lemar. Make a run at Alisson or Oblak.
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Re: 2017-18 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread 

Post#914 » by Cactus Jack » Sun May 27, 2018 6:22 pm

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Did you actually watch the game? Because that's frankly untrue. Liverpool looked dangerous in those first 25-30 minutes and dictated the pace. To say that they needed to score early isn't entirely accurate - they have won many matches this season by building momentum and dropping the hammer at the end of the first half and during the first 15-20 minutes of the second half.

I'm not saying that they would have won with Salah, but the match would have been considerably more compelling with him on the pitch - especially considering that, but-for Karius's blunders, it was a 1-1 match.

That falls mainly on Klopp & the club for not providing better depth behind the starters. It's been a problem all season. Completely different team without Mo on the pitch. One injury to VVD as well, and the club is also in big trouble (Exposing Lovren). This Summer should be about adding more depth to the squad as a whole. Another Keeper, CB, MF, etc.

Madrid meanwhile has Bale coming off the bench. Must be nice.


It takes years to build that kind of depth, especially with missing Ox, Lallana, Can, and Matip down the stretch.

I suspect this window will help him add a few more pieces. Keita already on the way in. Maybe Fekir or Lemar. Make a run at Alisson or Oblak.

Ox going down was a big blow no doubt. Lallana is useful. But, he can't be counted on in that spot imo. Again, that goes back to lacking depth behind the front three. Not having Coutinho in that instance came back to bite them.
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Post#915 » by humanrefutation » Sun May 27, 2018 6:25 pm

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Cactus Jack wrote:That falls mainly on Klopp & the club for not providing better depth behind the starters. It's been a problem all season. Completely different team without Mo on the pitch. One injury to VVD as well, and the club is also in big trouble (Exposing Lovren). This Summer should be about adding more depth to the squad as a whole. Another Keeper, CB, MF, etc.

Madrid meanwhile has Bale coming off the bench. Must be nice.


It takes years to build that kind of depth, especially with missing Ox, Lallana, Can, and Matip down the stretch.

I suspect this window will help him add a few more pieces. Keita already on the way in. Maybe Fekir or Lemar. Make a run at Alisson or Oblak.

Ox going down was a big blow no doubt. Lallana is useful. But, he can't be counted on in that spot imo. Again, that goes back to lacking depth behind the front three. Not having Coutinho in that instance came back to bite them.


I should also mention Ben Woodburn, Harry Wilson, and hopefully Rhian Brewster (if he doesn't leave for the Bundesliga) could be nice squad pieces next season.
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Re: 2017-18 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread 

Post#916 » by coldfish » Mon May 28, 2018 1:21 pm

Liverpool really dominated the first 20 minutes or so. After that Salah injury, Real absolutely dominated the game.

Real Madrid is a very good, but not great team. They are vets and did exactly what they had to to win. Liverpool's issues with GK and lack of depth were exposed. As a Liverpool fan, I think the Salah injury was one of the dirtiest things I have seen in sports. That said, I'm not sure it changes the game. Liverpool eventually would have tired and then Real would have dominated, pulled from their stacked bench and won. When you look at the whole roster and add in the experience factor RM was clearly the better team.
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Post#917 » by ardee » Tue May 29, 2018 4:52 am

coldfish wrote:Liverpool really dominated the first 20 minutes or so. After that Salah injury, Real absolutely dominated the game.

Real Madrid is a very good, but not great team. They are vets and did exactly what they had to to win. Liverpool's issues with GK and lack of depth were exposed. As a Liverpool fan, I think the Salah injury was one of the dirtiest things I have seen in sports. That said, I'm not sure it changes the game. Liverpool eventually would have tired and then Real would have dominated, pulled from their stacked bench and won. When you look at the whole roster and add in the experience factor RM was clearly the better team.


Definitely worse than last year IMO.
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Post#918 » by Next Coming » Tue May 29, 2018 3:09 pm

LOL! I'm stunned at how well I took that L on Saturday. Sucks that we gave them two freebies but that Bale goal deserved to be the winner. SENSATIONAL!
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Post#919 » by CalamityX12 » Tue May 29, 2018 3:09 pm

This wasn't Real's strongest team in the last 4-5 campaigns but hats off to my boys. Didn't think we would pull it off(save Ramos' sneaky dirty play) but 3 in a row!!!!!

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Post#920 » by CalamityX12 » Tue May 29, 2018 3:10 pm

Unlucky and terrible from Liverpool goalie, felt bad for him.

Bale's goal... left me shaking! lol
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