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(Soccer) Best non-english team of the year?
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 3:16 pm
by Alex_De_Large
I put there these 2 options because they will win the league in Italy and Spain. They had similar years, great first half of the season and average second half, also early out in CL.
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 3:32 pm
by El Turco
Bayern Munich. utter domination in domestic competition also pretty solid showing in UEFA.
i understand they played in lower quality competition but inter and R.Madrid were too inconsistent. Seria A and La Liga werent too far ahead of bundesliga this season considering the suckiness of Barca and Milan.
I dont think neither Inter nor R.Madrid fans will classfy this season "great".
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 3:37 pm
by Grang33r
I agree. Bayern Munich showed their class this year. Ribery and Toni were unreal. They walked though their season like a cake walk and they dominated in the German Cup. And had a hard path.
If they win the UEFA Cup i think they lock this topic up.
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:25 pm
by fc_dinamo
Neither Real nor Inter. Both are very good and have dominated their domestic leagues...both fizzled out early in CL.
Bayern Munich by far. They're not getting much publicity but...Franc Ribery continues to be underrated and an exceptional play maker. Luca Toni has 36 goals in total this year.
And everything Bayern has been in, they've won. Teams better watch out for them next season. I would argue that perhaps they're as good as ManU/Chelsea but that is obviously debatable and perhaps a stretch.
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:44 pm
by BlackMamba
well, by best what do you mean?
best playing team? most dominant in their local league?
you can't judge the teams by the champions league because the way the teams face the local league and the champions is waaay different.
examples are liverpool and barcelona.
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:50 pm
by Alex_De_Large
i mean, a thing between "better squad(players)" and "best results in the season".
inter have 81 points, madrid 75, bayern 66...
i did not mention bayern because bundesliga is not what used to be in the 90's and the teams they meet in uefa are very poor, even getafe almost beat them...
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:54 pm
by magik9113
well out of those two, I vote inter.
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:37 pm
by El Turco
Phoenix Rockets wrote:i mean, a thing between "better squad(players)" and "best results in the season".
inter have 81 points, madrid 75, bayern 66...
i did not mention bayern because bundesliga is not what used to be in the 90's and the teams they meet in uefa are very poor, even getafe almost beat them...
bundesliga plays less games than serie A and la liga.
given the chance Bayern would ve been at least a quarter final team in CL, imo. their squad is way too good and deep.
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:10 pm
by Kaizen
Inter Milan
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:42 pm
by BlackMamba
well, i think the spanish league is still the toughest league, so i say real madrid.
inter's only real competition was roma, juve and milan, and roma doesn't have half the squad inter has, and juve and milan had inconsistency issues through out the season.
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:46 pm
by Alex_De_Large
We can't say Barcelona was in a good shape also. and Villarreal is really not a contender team, at the level of Fiorentina max.
Roma is better than Barcelona
Juventus is better than Villarreal
Fiorentina is better than Atletico
Milan is better than Valencia
...................................
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:16 pm
by magik9113
BlackMamba wrote:well, i think the spanish league is still the toughest league, so i say real madrid.
inter's only real competition was roma, juve and milan, and roma doesn't have half the squad inter has, and juve and milan had inconsistency issues through out the season.
who are real's competition?
barcelona only counts once
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:08 pm
by bryant08
Bayern, then Inter, then Real.
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:24 pm
by Slava
Some appreciation for Lyon but its Bayern Munich by far.
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:10 am
by fc_dinamo
BlackMamba wrote:well, i think the spanish league is still the toughest league, so i say real madrid.
inter's only real competition was roma, juve and milan, and roma doesn't have half the squad inter has, and juve and milan had inconsistency issues through out the season.
True but Real lost to Roma.
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:40 am
by Slava
.........and Roma got their behinds handed back over to them by United, barely breaking a sweat.
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:32 pm
by BlackMamba
i meant as the whole league, not just 3-5 teams.
i believe that the spanish league has mabe up to 10 competitive teams.
italy around 6.
england about 6.
germany... 1? france... 1?
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:35 pm
by Alex_De_Large
i'am from spain and i watch the league from here every week and i can't see how there are 10 competitive teams, valencia and sevilla are in a really poor form this season and racing is in 5th place, racing is a really poor team at the level of reggina/cagliari/siena
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:19 pm
by chicken wing
inter alll dayyy kiddddd
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:21 pm
by BlackMamba
well, in that case, yes, i agree, inter.