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Cam + Shamet 

Post#1 » by patman66 » Tue Jun 28, 2022 11:21 pm

Celts can take both into TPEs, If Ayton gets his max what would be the price to take both and not send any salary back.
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Post#2 » by TeamTragic » Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:09 am

patman66 wrote:Celts can take both into TPEs, If Ayton gets his max what would be the price to take both and not send any salary back.


You can have Payne/Shamet for a box of donuts.
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Post#3 » by patman66 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:52 am

Cam Johnson,
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Post#4 » by patman66 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:52 am

TeamTragic wrote:
patman66 wrote:Celts can take both into TPEs, If Ayton gets his max what would be the price to take both and not send any salary back.


You can have Payne/Shamet for a box of donuts.


cam johnson.
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Post#5 » by cberry78 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:15 am

patman66 wrote:
TeamTragic wrote:
patman66 wrote:Celts can take both into TPEs, If Ayton gets his max what would be the price to take both and not send any salary back.


You can have Payne/Shamet for a box of donuts.


cam johnson.
You can have Payne/Shamet for a box of donuts.

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Re: Cam + Shamet 

Post#6 » by patman66 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:24 am

cberry78 wrote:
patman66 wrote:
TeamTragic wrote:
You can have Payne/Shamet for a box of donuts.


cam johnson.
You can have Payne/Shamet for a box of donuts.

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yeah, and the suns would buy the donuts. But as you know Johnson is the guy the celts would be interested in, I figured takeing on 40 mill of useless money would knock down the price of Johnson considerably.
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Post#7 » by cberry78 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:50 am

patman66 wrote:
cberry78 wrote:
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cam johnson.
You can have Payne/Shamet for a box of donuts.

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yeah, and the suns would buy the donuts. But as you know Johnson is the guy the celts would be interested in, I figured takeing on 40 mill of useless money would knock down the price of Johnson considerably.

You can have Payne/Shamet for a box of donuts.

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Post#8 » by bwgood77 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:03 am

patman66 wrote:
cberry78 wrote:
patman66 wrote:
cam johnson.
You can have Payne/Shamet for a box of donuts.

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yeah, and the suns would buy the donuts. But as you know Johnson is the guy the celts would be interested in, I figured takeing on 40 mill of useless money would knock down the price of Johnson considerably.


Suns love Cam, and Monty loves Shamet. If it was just unloading bloated salaries for ok players, for tax saving purposes, knowing the Suns, I think they'd do a first.

But given Cam Johnson would be in the deal, at best Shamet would be a wash, but they would probably think there is net value in the trade. Only 2 years of Shamet's deal is guaranteed, so like $19 million, and Cam definitely has pretty good trade value. So I think they'd probably want something like a 2nd back at least. Maybe a first since it would be a very late one, and because it would take them a lot of motivation to move Cam.
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Post#9 » by RaisingArizona » Wed Jun 29, 2022 4:07 am

You can have Payne/Shamet for a box of donuts.
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Re: Cam + Shamet 

Post#10 » by Bogyo » Wed Jun 29, 2022 4:50 am

bwgood77 wrote:
patman66 wrote:
cberry78 wrote:You can have Payne/Shamet for a box of donuts.

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yeah, and the suns would buy the donuts. But as you know Johnson is the guy the celts would be interested in, I figured takeing on 40 mill of useless money would knock down the price of Johnson considerably.


Suns love Cam, and Monty loves Shamet. If it was just unloading bloated salaries for ok players, for tax saving purposes, knowing the Suns, I think they'd do a first.

But given Cam Johnson would be in the deal, at best Shamet would be a wash, but they would probably think there is net value in the trade. Only 2 years of Shamet's deal is guaranteed, so like $19 million, and Cam definitely has pretty good trade value. So I think they'd probably want something like a 2nd back at least. Maybe a first since it would be a very late one, and because it would take them a lot of motivation to move Cam.


Yeah, what he said. Only asteriks is that you are dealing with JJ, so he might attach a first round pick even without you asking. Maybe you can talk him out of giving you 2 picks, but that's not a given either. You'd have to work hard not to recieve 2 picks. :D
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Re: Cam + Shamet 

Post#11 » by Desertfox » Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:14 am

I'm half convinced that JJ will find a way to send out picks in an Ayton S&T, even if all we were getting back was a TPE...
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Re: Cam + Shamet 

Post#12 » by patman66 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:14 am

bwgood77 wrote:
patman66 wrote:
cberry78 wrote:You can have Payne/Shamet for a box of donuts.

Sent from my SM-N960U using RealGM mobile app


yeah, and the suns would buy the donuts. But as you know Johnson is the guy the celts would be interested in, I figured takeing on 40 mill of useless money would knock down the price of Johnson considerably.


Suns love Cam, and Monty loves Shamet. If it was just unloading bloated salaries for ok players, for tax saving purposes, knowing the Suns, I think they'd do a first.

But given Cam Johnson would be in the deal, at best Shamet would be a wash, but they would probably think there is net value in the trade. Only 2 years of Shamet's deal is guaranteed, so like $19 million, and Cam definitely has pretty good trade value. So I think they'd probably want something like a 2nd back at least. Maybe a first since it would be a very late one, and because it would take them a lot of motivation to move Cam.


Yeah, I thought it would be a first too. thanks for your feed back.
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Re: Cam + Shamet 

Post#13 » by King4Day » Wed Jun 29, 2022 5:22 pm

Cam Johnson has value. Far more than a salary dump. The Suns would use him to fill a need if they included him in any deal. They don't need to trade him since he's making pennies right now compared to his value and any extension wouldn't kick in until next season.

Needing a backup guard, it would probably start with Smart, even though he's not a backup.
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Post#14 » by sunskerr » Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:28 pm

Desertfox wrote:I'm half convinced that JJ will find a way to send out picks in an Ayton S&T, even if all we were getting back was a TPE...


"repairing the image of the franchise" or something along those lines, as he once put it.
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Re: Cam + Shamet 

Post#15 » by sasquatchBob » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:46 pm

You can go back where you came from. Nobody is giving you Cam Johnson for free
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Re: Cam + Shamet 

Post#16 » by nevetsov » Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:31 am

Crowder to Miami ($10m)
Duncan Robinson to Boston TPE ($15m)
TPE to PHX
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Post#17 » by gobullschi » Thu Jul 21, 2022 1:10 pm

Cam Johnson for Coby White, Dalen Terry, & ‘23 1st (lotto protected via POR)
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Post#18 » by bwgood77 » Thu Jul 21, 2022 6:49 pm

gobullschi wrote:Cam Johnson for Coby White, Dalen Terry, & ‘23 1st (lotto protected via POR)



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